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UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:02 am
by Sandstorm
£15.00 increase this year. Are you fucking kidding me??? :mad:

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:07 am
by Biffer
If you adjust for inflation since 2010 it should be £230. The tories have used it as a political tool against BBC News, attempting to stifle criticism by withdrawing funding from Eastenders, local radio and David Attenborough.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:58 am
by Tichtheid
for just over 46p per day you get access to 8 national tv channels, BBC iplayer for on demand programming, ten national radio stations plus local ones, BBC Sounds for on demand listening, Weather and News channels, childrens' television, BBC bitesize which I used extensively to aid my three get through school studies.

The sports coverage isn't as extensive as it once was, but we have the Olympic Games coming up, we just saw Wimbledon, the 6N and they have coverage of FA Cup football as well as the Euros.

I'd pay more for the BBC to show the URC, Gallagher Premiership, Top 14 etc, but BT kind of fucked it for rugby fans when they used rugby and football as a loss leader to get into the potential £10Bn or more broadband provider market

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:20 am
by Sandstorm
Jesus, a couple of Scots calling a price increase a good thing? :crazy:

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:56 am
by Tichtheid
I used the iPlayer yesterday to watch first night of the BBC proms from Friday. There are 73 concerts in London and several others around the country across the 8 week long festival. Every concert is broadcast live on Radio 3, 24 of them are on BBC tv and of course you can catch up with everything online. The latest figures I found were from 2016/117 and at that point the BBC proms cost the licence payer 19p each from their fee. That's not 19p per week, it's 19p.

If you attend in person you can buy tickets for £8.

This is not everyone's cup of tea, but the coverage of Glastonbury was extensive too. There is programming for new EDM and all manner of music genres.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:07 am
by inactionman
Tichtheid wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:56 am I used the iPlayer yesterday to watch first night of the BBC proms from Friday. There are 73 concerts in London and several others around the country across the 8 week long festival. Every concert is broadcast live on Radio 3, 24 of them are on BBC tv and of course you can catch up with everything online. The latest figures I found were from 2016/117 and at that point the BBC proms cost the licence payer 19p each from their fee. That's not 19p per week, it's 19p.

If you attend in person you can buy tickets for £8.

This is not everyone's cup of tea, but the coverage of Glastonbury was extensive too. There is programming for new EDM and all manner of music genres.
The Proms/Last Night of the Proms are definitely on my bucket list

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:18 am
by tabascoboy
I'm OK with the fee given the amount of TV and radio output choices available for the money. Even though there are times when I'm watching or recording very little terrestrial / streamed TV where the fee is still required for legality ( of course with subscription streaming services you can drop in and out for periods of time). Naturally the less of this you watch, and plenty watch little or non of the BBC in particular (for reasons) the more likely you are to feel that it is an extortionate cost.

Given the increasing move of streaming companies to include ads - which seem to get ever longer and more intrusive -with a standard fee and charging a premium to exclude them, and how incredibly annoying they are, would hate to see a move for the BBC to commercial supported funding even at a huge reduction or even abolition of the fee.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:26 am
by Tichtheid
tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:18 am
Given the increasing move of streaming companies to include ads - which seem to get ever longer and more intrusive -with a standard fee and charging a premium to exclude them, and how incredibly annoying they are, would hate to see a move for the BBC to commercial supported funding even at a huge reduction or even abolition of the fee.

Listening to commercial radio is really annoying for this, same with Spotify free. I have a music subscription to another platform.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:55 am
by Paddington Bear
In the last year I reckon I’ve actually watched on the BBC:
6N
Euros
One of the election debates
Election night coverage

Their coverage of all the above was poor IMO. Their website is good. Not sure how much longer the traditional tv model has

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:33 pm
by Biffer
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:20 am Jesus, a couple of Scots calling a price increase a good thing? :crazy:
We recognise value when we see it.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:34 pm
by Biffer
It's also good to remember that the license fee goes partly to supporting the UK broadcast infrastructure as well.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:50 pm
by epwc

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:11 pm
by Dinsdale Piranha
epwc wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:50 pm Brilliant value for money:

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if- ... -for-top13
For some.

I use the sport section of the website frequently. I don't listen to radio or watch live TV. I probably watch something on iplayer twice a year - usually when they knock out a decent drama series or similar. That's about it.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:13 pm
by Grandpa
Didn't realise you need a TV licence to watch Sky

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:48 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:11 pm
epwc wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:50 pm Brilliant value for money:

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if- ... -for-top13
For some.

I use the sport section of the website frequently. I don't listen to radio or watch live TV. I probably watch something on iplayer twice a year - usually when they knock out a decent drama series or similar. That's about it.
Hardly, you also live in a society where others have access to a public broadcaster at national and local levels, and their news output sets a bar others are judged by. The licence isn't a great model, but it does sort of keep it some steps of control away from the sort of people who'd illegally prorogue parliament, and that's not nothing.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:07 pm
by petej
I use iPlayer and sounds a lot. The absence of adverts is such a plus in this day and age. Gone off the streaming services though my wife won't ditch them despite us barely watching them.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:20 pm
by Enzedder
You need a licence to watch TV? What about taking a poo?

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:29 pm
by epwc
Enzedder wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:20 pm You need a licence to watch TV?
Mate you even need a licence to kill

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:56 am
by Enzedder
epwc wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:29 pm
Enzedder wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:20 pm You need a licence to watch TV?
Mate you even need a licence to kill
You palestines. We contract it out. The local mob will do it for a dozen quarts and a feed of pipis.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:33 am
by TheNatalShark
It's a dumb admin tax.

BBC is a huge part of British soft power, and frankly a breadwinner for the UK.

Centrally fund it. If a Gov wants to remove or dictate funding whilst in power, then it is up to the electorate to weigh on.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:22 am
by epwc
TheNatalShark wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:33 am It's a dumb admin tax.

BBC is a huge part of British soft power, and frankly a breadwinner for the UK.

Centrally fund it. If a Gov wants to remove or dictate funding whilst in power, then it is up to the electorate to weigh on.
100% and a key reason why so many new media companies have studios in the uk

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:51 am
by Insane_Homer
Grandpa wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:13 pm Didn't realise you need a TV licence to watch Sky
if you watch Sky News live on Youtube you need a license... :crazy:

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:19 pm
by Biffer
TheNatalShark wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:33 am It's a dumb admin tax.

BBC is a huge part of British soft power, and frankly a breadwinner for the UK.

Centrally fund it. If a Gov wants to remove or dictate funding whilst in power, then it is up to the electorate to weigh on.
Except the Tories would have had fourteen years to run it into the ground so it couldn't be rescued.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:06 pm
by TheNatalShark
Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:19 pm Except the Tories would have had fourteen years to run it into the ground so it couldn't be rescued.
Then the electorate can enjoy buyers remorse, or think it's great and expand the model to the NHS.

Re: UK Television license

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:22 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:19 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:33 am It's a dumb admin tax.

BBC is a huge part of British soft power, and frankly a breadwinner for the UK.

Centrally fund it. If a Gov wants to remove or dictate funding whilst in power, then it is up to the electorate to weigh on.
Except the Tories would have had fourteen years to run it into the ground so it couldn't be rescued.
And it'd directly have the BBC working for the executive. There are good reasons to have the current setup, even if it's also a bit weird.