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Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:21 am
by OomStruisbaai
Date: Saturday 23rd November 2024

Venue: Principality Stadium, Cardiff

Kick-off: 5:40pm

Referee: Karl Dickson (England)

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:47 am
by OomStruisbaai
They will announce the Springbok side at around 16:30 (SA time) on Tuesday.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:09 am
by Slick
Cruel thread. Lets just pretend it's not happening.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:59 am
by PCPhil
There will be blood.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:18 pm
by SaintK
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:21 am Date: Saturday 23rd November 2024

Venue: Principality Stadium, Cardiff

Kick-off: 5:40pm

Referee: Karl Dickson (England)
That's Wales double fucked!!!!

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:27 pm
by laurent
SaintK wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:18 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:21 am Date: Saturday 23rd November 2024

Venue: Principality Stadium, Cardiff

Kick-off: 5:40pm

Referee: Karl Dickson (England)
That's Wales double fucked!!!!
spitroasted ?

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:48 pm
by epwc
Oh dear

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:27 am
by C69
Its gonna be painful

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:52 am
by Sards
I would like to see Hendricks at 10 and Hanekom at 8. Willie can get closer to his 100

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:46 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Sards wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:52 am I would like to see Hendricks at 10 and Hanekom at 8. Willie can get closer to his 100
Yep team will be

Willie le Roux, Moodie, Am, AE, Mapimpi, Hendricks, Hendricks, Cameron Hanekom, Elrich Louw, Escom, Kleyn, Mostert , Thomas Tank, Grobbies, Steenkamp
Bench
Ox, Marx, Wilco, Etsebeth, Kolisi, PSdT, Williams, Pollard

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:20 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Springbok team to face Wales in Cardiff:

15 – Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 10 caps, 30 points (6t)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath) – 39 caps, 111 points (18t, 3c, 5p)
13 – Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 78 caps, 90 points (18t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 86 caps, 55 points (11t)
11 – Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls) – 23 caps, 85 points (17t)
10 – Jordan Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 1 cap, 7 pts (2c, 1p)
9 – Jaden Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 19 caps, 19 pts (2t, 3c, 1p)

8 – Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks) – 33 caps, 10 points (2t)
7 – Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 12 caps, 0 points
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 91 caps, 60 points (12t)
5 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 77 caps, 15 points (3t)
4 – Jean Kleyn (Munster) – 7 caps, 0 pts (Ireland 5 caps)
3 – Thomas du Toit (Bath) – 22 caps, 5 pts (1t)
2 – Johan Grobbelaar (Vodacom Bulls) – 2 caps, 0 points
1 – Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 39 caps, 0 points

Replacements:

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 75 caps, 105 points (21t)
17 – Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls) – 10 caps, 0 points
18 – Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 60 caps, 0 points
19 – Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 130 caps, 30 points (6t)
20 – RG Snyman (Leinster) – 39 caps, 10 points (2t)
21 – Cameron Hanekom (Vodacom Bulls) - uncapped
22 – Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 38 caps, 70 pts (14t)
23 – Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 79 caps, 772 points (7t, 109c, 168p, 5dg)

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:24 pm
by SaintK
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:20 pm Springbok team to face Wales in Cardiff:

15 – Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 10 caps, 30 points (6t)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath) – 39 caps, 111 points (18t, 3c, 5p)
13 – Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 78 caps, 90 points (18t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 86 caps, 55 points (11t)
11 – Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls) – 23 caps, 85 points (17t)
10 – Jordan Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 1 cap, 7 pts (2c, 1p)
9 – Jaden Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 19 caps, 19 pts (2t, 3c, 1p)

8 – Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks) – 33 caps, 10 points (2t)
7 – Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 12 caps, 0 points
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 91 caps, 60 points (12t)
5 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 77 caps, 15 points (3t)
4 – Jean Kleyn (Munster) – 7 caps, 0 pts (Ireland 5 caps)
3 – Thomas du Toit (Bath) – 22 caps, 5 pts (1t)
2 – Johan Grobbelaar (Vodacom Bulls) – 2 caps, 0 points
1 – Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 39 caps, 0 points

Replacements:

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 75 caps, 105 points (21t)
17 – Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls) – 10 caps, 0 points
18 – Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 60 caps, 0 points
19 – Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 130 caps, 30 points (6t)
20 – RG Snyman (Leinster) – 39 caps, 10 points (2t)
21 – Cameron Hanekom (Vodacom Bulls) - uncapped
22 – Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 38 caps, 70 pts (14t)
23 – Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 79 caps, 772 points (7t, 109c, 168p, 5dg)
Looks weak!
Wales by 19

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:54 pm
by boere wors
Hanekom :thumbup:

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:12 pm
by epwc
Kolbe only on 39 caps? I thought he'd have a lot more than that

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:13 pm
by OomStruisbaai
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:24 pm Looks weak!
Wales by 19
Trolling? Thought Rassie would select our B team like against Scotland. I'd say Boks by 20.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:15 pm
by OomStruisbaai
epwc wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:12 pm Kolbe only on 39 caps? I thought he'd have a lot more than that
He seem to be to small by previous Bok coaches?

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:10 pm
by SaintK
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:13 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:24 pm Looks weak!
Wales by 19
Trolling? Thought Rassie would select our B team like against Scotland. I'd say Boks by 20.
Not sure you get my sense of humour :lol:
Boks by 30

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:31 pm
by _Os_
Gatland's pre-match chirp:


Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:48 pm
by _Os_
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:13 pm Thought Rassie would select our B team like against Scotland. I'd say Boks by 20.
There hasn't been a B team on this tour, the squad Rassie picked is fully loaded, hard to pick a weak side from it. This one has 7 players on around 10 caps or less, the weakest side selected.

Hanekom and Kleyn playing means 52 players have been used by the Boks this year, back in June/July Rassie did say he wanted to make a 50 man squad, he has delivered again. Boks could go on the EOYT next year with 50 players and play two matches a weekend without needing to cap any new players. There would actually be some competition to make the squad of 50. Never seen anything like that before.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:00 pm
by Sandstorm
60kph wind and driving rain on Saturday afternoon. Wales will want the roof….open?

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:02 pm
by _Os_
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:00 pm 60kph wind and driving rain on Saturday afternoon. Wales will want the roof….open?
Too enclosed for any wind no matter if the roof is shut or not.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:06 pm
by OomStruisbaai
_Os_ wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:02 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:00 pm 60kph wind and driving rain on Saturday afternoon. Wales will want the roof….open?
Too enclosed for any wind no matter if the roof is shut or not.
Roof is going to be close.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:08 pm
by _Os_
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:06 pm
_Os_ wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:02 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:00 pm 60kph wind and driving rain on Saturday afternoon. Wales will want the roof….open?
Too enclosed for any wind no matter if the roof is shut or not.
Roof is going to be close.
It's like they have a death wish. :eek:

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:40 pm
by Sandstorm
Wales have hardly shown that they can play any worse in the rain, Ox.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:50 pm
by _Os_
Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:40 pm Wales have hardly shown that they can play any worse in the rain, Ox.
Boks do better when it's dry.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:41 pm
by bok_viking
Just glad to see Hanekom at last up for his first cap, long overdue. I can see him becoming more regular from next season now that he is part of the squad as he can cover lock, flanker and 8th man. Unfortunately I think it is time to put Eskom out to pasture

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:24 pm
by fishfoodie
A bit cruel naming a side.

To even things up a bit, Razzie should wander around the pubs at lunch time, & pick 23 guys wearing Boks jerseys.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:29 am
by Sards
This 52 players picked story.

ABs have had an A side touring too. Building depth

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:54 pm
by dpedin
Just seen the Welsh team for Saturday, they are going to struggle badly ... very badly! This could be a turning point for Welsh rugby, if the Aussies can put 50+ points on them then SA team could easily do much much more damage. I almost feel sorry for the ... nah feck'em and feck Gatland!

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:10 pm
by _Os_
Sards wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:29 am This 52 players picked story.

ABs have had an A side touring too. Building depth
Missing the point a bit, Sardy. Rassie could've gone into every match stacked with his first choice players, no change in tactics, just moer every opponent stukkend. Instead he's used a large player pool and experimented with the tactics and style of play, he's changed things up nearly every test. And the Boks still have a really strong record this season. Without locking in a 30 man squad never mind the 23. The Boks have never done that before, don't follow the ABs closely enough to know if they have.

Posted before I think the Boks should have an A team, or just play the weaker test sides more. Take a larger squad on the EOYT and play some more tests against European non-6N sides, maybe an additional test in June against an African side. Not many extra tests would strengthen squad depth. But the experience from those matches playing in a weaker Bok side against a weak team, isn't as high quality as playing in the full test side.

Ackermann is heading back to SA as an SA U20 assistant coach. There's clearly building happening for 2028, again something I've never seen this far out.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:15 pm
by epwc
The Boks do seem to be streets ahead at the moment

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:15 pm
by _Os_
Wales have not selected Wainwright and Anscombe in the 23. Maybe the best forward and back they have now. Sounds like both are fit.

Madness. :eek:

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:17 pm
by assfly
_Os_ wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:15 pm Wales have not selected Wainwright and Anscombe in the 23. Maybe the best forward and back they have now. Sounds like both are fit.

Madness. :eek:
I really like Wainwright. Such a pity he's part of this purple patch Wales are going through. He still stands out as a good player.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:19 pm
by assfly
_Os_ wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:10 pm maybe an additional test in June against an African side.
Perhaps the current Africa Gold Cup champions, and unbeaten in 2024, the Zimbabwe Sables, would be a good match.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:27 pm
by _Os_
assfly wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:19 pm
_Os_ wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:10 pm maybe an additional test in June against an African side.
Perhaps the current Africa Gold Cup champions, and unbeaten in 2024, the Zimbabwe Sables, would be a good match.
Peaked early before RWC qualification, strutting around after winning some friendlies. :lol:

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:32 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Latest update for Boks is Ox out, Thomas Tank move to LH , Wilco Louw to TH. Bench remain the same. PSdT, Kwagga, AE, Am and Mapimpi return home

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:52 pm
by C69
_Os_ wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:15 pm Wales have not selected Wainwright and Anscombe in the 23. Maybe the best forward and back they have now. Sounds like both are fit.

Madness. :eek:
Lol and Costellow is playing.
Pmsl.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:22 am
by assfly
_Os_ wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:27 pm Peaked early before RWC qualification, strutting around after winning some friendlies. :lol:
Pfft. South Korea is no joke.

28th in the world baby :cool:

Suck on that, Brazil.

Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:05 am
by Chilli2
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Re: Wales vs Springboks

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:35 am
by OomStruisbaai
assfly wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:22 am
_Os_ wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:27 pm Peaked early before RWC qualification, strutting around after winning some friendlies. :lol:
Pfft. South Korea is no joke.

28th in the world baby :cool:

Suck on that, Brazil.
Watched that test against South Korea. Was a ripper. Hope my grandson will play for them.