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What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:56 pm
by Uncle fester

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:00 pm
by Biffer
A bit out of the blue isn't it?

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:19 pm
by epwc
Fuck

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:30 pm
by fishfoodie
Sounds a bit Coup'ish.

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:42 pm
by tabascoboy
Sounds like the President taking a desperate move to save his own neck with a classical distraction move?
Yoon has been a lame duck president since the latest general election when the opposition won a landslide in parliament.

He was not able to pass the laws he wanted, instead, he was reduced to vetoing desperately any bills that the opposition had been passing.

Yoon is also mired in several scandals, mainly one around his wife, who is accused of corruption. She is also accused of influence peddling. The opposition has been trying to launch a special investigation against her.

This week, the opposition slashed budgets that the government and ruling party had put forward - and the budget bill cannot be vetoed.

In the same week, the opposition is moving to impeach cabinet members, mainly the head of the government audit agency, for failing to investigate the first lady.

Yoon has gone for the nuclear option - he claims it is to restore order when "anti-state" forces he says are trying to paralyse the country.

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:43 pm
by Guy Smiley
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:30 pm Sounds a bit Coup'ish.
Not quite that exciting. Sounds more like the sitting President, outnumbered by the opposition and unable to pass legislation while dogged by stories of his corrupt wife, has fearlessly decided to defend his nation from the evil forces of the North who have infiltrated the south and threaten security and stability. The leader of his own party says it's the wrong move and his heading down there now to smack his arse.

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:34 pm
by Biffer
Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:43 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:30 pm Sounds a bit Coup'ish.
Not quite that exciting. Sounds more like the sitting President, outnumbered by the opposition and unable to pass legislation while dogged by stories of his corrupt wife, has fearlessly decided to defend his nation from the evil forces of the North who have infiltrated the south and threaten security and stability. The leader of his own party says it's the wrong move and his heading down there now to smack his arse.
Yeah, looks like both sides of parliament and the public are saying 'nope' with the military cunningly sitting in the corner going 'sorry, what? Didn't hear you, what was that? Oh, did you say something?'

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:19 pm
by SaintK
Biffer wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:34 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:43 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:30 pm Sounds a bit Coup'ish.
Not quite that exciting. Sounds more like the sitting President, outnumbered by the opposition and unable to pass legislation while dogged by stories of his corrupt wife, has fearlessly decided to defend his nation from the evil forces of the North who have infiltrated the south and threaten security and stability. The leader of his own party says it's the wrong move and his heading down there now to smack his arse.
Yeah, looks like both sides of parliament and the public are saying 'nope' with the military cunningly sitting in the corner going 'sorry, what? Didn't hear you, what was that? Oh, did you say something?'
Fair summary

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:47 pm
by Biffer
Military seem to be sitting on the fence. Soldiers reportedly have left the parliament building but they say the state of martial law can only be lifted by the President. Not much reported presence on the street?

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:58 pm
by Biffer
Also, it seems that now parliament has passed a motion insisting that martial law should be lifted, the president must, by law, lift martial law. So if he doesn’t, he’s acting unlawfully and can be arrested / removed?

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:08 pm
by Hellraiser
Biffer wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:58 pm Also, it seems that now parliament has passed a motion insisting that martial law should be lifted, the president must, by law, lift martial law. So if he doesn’t, he’s acting unlawfully and can be arrested / removed?
The Korean constitution states that if parliament votes to lift martial law the president is obliged to to do so. So not just unlawful, but unconstitutional too.

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:23 pm
by sturginho
Well that was fun while it lasted. Shirley his position is untenable now?

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:52 pm
by Hal Jordan
What if we held a coup and nobody came?

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:54 pm
by fishfoodie
sturginho wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:23 pm Well that was fun while it lasted. Shirley his position is untenable now?
It was untenable before; it's now about whether or not the put him against a wall & shoot him first, or have a trial to put him in gaol for 40 years first, & then shoot him ?

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:00 pm
by Biffer
Speculation in the media about how this demonstrates instability and North Korea will take advantage.

I choose to take another point of view - that this episode proves that South Korea is a resilient democracy that can resist a rogue president abusing his position and acting outside his authority to bypass democratically elected representatives.

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:15 am
by Biffer
Loads of pics of the troops who were at parliament and other areas doing the rounds that show them with no magazines in their pistols, or marked dummy cartridges / training blanks in rifles. Going through the motions.

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:17 pm
by Uncle fester
Biffer wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:00 pm Speculation in the media about how this demonstrates instability and North Korea will take advantage.

I choose to take another point of view - that this episode proves that South Korea is a resilient democracy that can resist a rogue president abusing his position and acting outside his authority to bypass democratically elected representatives.
Would agree with that. Consider what happens in strong man regimes when the top guy dies.

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:55 am
by Uncle fester
He's refusing to step down and his party scuppered the impeachment vote.
But of a roach.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... dApp_Other

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:22 am
by Uncle fester

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:45 am
by Sandstorm
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:22 am He's refusing to step down.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gp8p875g8o
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Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:08 pm
by OomStruisbaai

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:20 pm
by Kawazaki
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:08 pm Big airplane crash.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 024-12-29/


No news on whether the bird survived then?

Re: What's going on in Korea?

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:33 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:20 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:08 pm Big airplane crash.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 024-12-29/


No news on whether the bird survived then?
The only birds I saw in Korea were kraaie.