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Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:49 am
by ASMO
Personally i don't think so, yellow at best., compare it with Farrell's
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:53 am
by Mahoney
Surely the report of the game will tell you?
Less pedantically - I presume the card was because his left shoulder hits the ball barrier in the jaw.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:25 pm
by Chrysoprase
Looking at the laws, the question seems to be whether there was a "high degree of danger" in the tackle. WR have defined a high degree of danger as any of the following:
The tackler draws the arm back prior to contact
The tackler may leave the ground
Arm swings forward prior to contact
The tackler is attempting an active/dominant tackle, as opposed to passive/soak, or “pulling out” of contact
The tackler speed and/or acceleration into tackle is high
Rigid arm or elbow makes contact with BC head as part of a swinging motion Contact
The tackler completes the tackle (as opposed to immediate release/withdrawal)
Based on that I'm not sure that there is a high degree of danger in that tackle, more likely a yellow than a red. But as WR are trying to protect ball carriers in situations like this and it was a particularly lazy effort from Beale I don't think he can be too aggrieved.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:26 pm
by Slick
I'm going to say, no. Possible yellow.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:41 pm
by Kawazaki
No, that shouldn't be a red card. Yellow looks harsh.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:47 pm
by Slick
Either way, some top class ooo la la's and other assorted French noises coming from the sidelines.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:58 pm
by Insane_Homer
Red seems harsh, it's high and to the face but unintentially so, got caught out by the receiver juggling the pass.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:23 pm
by Niegs
Look at the front-on view. Kurtley's bicep hits him in the jaw. Swinging arm, contact to head, not a slip up. That's a red these days, folks. 'Intent' is irrelevant, and especially when it's 'reckless' like this.
Mitigating factors that can be considered were also not present: drop in body height, unsighted, or reactionary. He had time, poorly lined up, recklessly executed.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:56 pm
by Sandstorm
Yellow
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:36 pm
by Ymx
That’s a seriously screwed up call. I’d not even have thought a yellow.
Hand gripping shoulder, perhaps a little contact with face from arm, but very little. And it certainly wasn’t forcefully driving through. Pathetic.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:44 pm
by Sandstorm
Ymx wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:36 pm
That’s a seriously screwed up call. I’d not even have thought a yellow.
Hand gripping shoulder, perhaps a little contact with face from arm, but very little. And it certainly wasn’t forcefully driving through. Pathetic.
It’s high. Some face contact. Knocked the player on his arse. All of those could be red on their own.
Together in this instance a penalty alone would be ridiculously lenient.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:11 am
by stemoc
A tackle by Nadolo last weekend looked just as bad but the ref ignored it cause the tackle was made correctly even if the tackled player landed awkwardly
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:48 am
by Hong Kong
Yes. It was
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:35 am
by Niegs
Hong Kong wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:48 am
Yes. It was
Any time a law/referee discussion starts with "For me..." now, I lose my mind.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:14 am
by Hong Kong
Niegs wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:35 am
Hong Kong wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:48 am
Yes. It was
Any time a law/referee discussion starts with "For me..." now, I lose my mind.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 am
by Jb1981
I see he was suspended for three weeks.
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:10 am
by Yeeb
Kawazaki wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:41 pm
No, that shouldn't be a red card. Yellow looks harsh.
This, just a penalty for me - no real malice or weight in it, just a bit reactive and high
Nowhere near as bad as farrels
Re: Was this a Red Card?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:38 am
by Un Pilier
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 am
I see he was suspended for three weeks.
That’s just silly.
