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Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:49 am
by obelixtim

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:23 am
by Hugo
That is utterly horrendous.

Really underscores how fragile life is, a simple oversight like that and it's game over.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:41 pm
by GogLais
Electricity is a mystery to me but surely the charging cable isn’t at mains voltage. I do realise that propping an electric fire on the edge of the bath isn’t a good idea even if I have suggested it to Ms GL on occasions.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:45 pm
by TB63
Usb chargers are 5 volt..

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:50 pm
by Ymx
Exactly. I struggle to see how a USB charger could deliver a lethal charge. 5v 1A, and dispersed through the entire water.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pm
by JM2K6
2.4A, no?

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:01 pm
by Ymx
Lifted it from google which pointed here. But looks old.

https://www.wired.com/2013/12/charging-devices-faq/


Even so, if 2.4 A in newer chargers, is 12 Watts. Its very low compare to mains 230V 10A. 2300 Watts.

Plus the charge would be distributed throughout the bath in a parallel way direct through water, line of least resistance to take pro rata current.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:12 pm
by Ymx
Along with the lack of power to deliver lethal blow, it’s not like a situation with electrical probes on either side of the bath the current needs to flow between. Just straight A to B in the charging lead ends. And would be neutral to ground/earth on the bath and hence no voltage between there.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:13 pm
by Ymx
Shall wait for Apple to comment me thinks, if they do.

Last geek bit. Wet human body at 1000 ohms @ 5 Volts. = 5 milli Amps and 25 milli Watts

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 am
by Torquemada 1420
The only way it could kill you is if the charger's internals were faulty and the separation between input and output voltage was breached if the charger was not in the water. Not clear from the one article I read if the charger fell into the bath too: that would take the mains element into contact with water.

Terrible waste:
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Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:58 am
by average joe
A bit of a tickle is all she would have got. I suspect some novichok.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:43 am
by TB63
average joe wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:58 am A bit of a tickle is all she would have got. I suspect some novishock.
Fixxed. .

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:47 am
by Lobby
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 am The only way it could kill you is if the charger's internals were faulty and the separation between input and output voltage was breached if the charger was not in the water. Not clear from the one article I read if the charger fell into the bath too: that would take the mains element into contact with water.

Terrible waste:
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I suspect she was using a cheap Chinese fake charger. Studies have shown these can be dangerous.
64 chargers tested as part of this study,

• 63 (98%) failed one or more of the mechanical and electrical tests, meaning that they are highly unsuitable for use.

• In many cases, these chargers could overheat, catch fire, and deliver a potentially lethal electric shock to consumers while in normal use.
Over half of the chargers failed the electric strength test. Adequate insulation and creepage distances are critical to prevent users from coming into contact with potentially harmful voltages and currents over the lifetime of the product. A breakdown of the insulation barrier, as observed for 37 samples in this investigation, has the potential to result in the USB output voltage (normally 5 Volts) rising to mains voltage (around 240 Volts) presenting a real and unnecessary risk of fire and electric shock.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:01 pm
by Sandstorm
:cool:
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 am
Terrible waste:
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Do we know if her last selfie survived the dip?

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:50 pm
by The Druid
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:01 pm :cool:
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 am
Terrible waste:
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Do we know if her last selfie survived the dip?
You are a bad, bad man but............ :lol: :lol:

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:56 pm
by Lemoentjie
GogLais wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:41 pm Electricity is a mystery to me but surely the charging cable isn’t at mains voltage. I do realise that propping an electric fire on the edge of the bath isn’t a good idea even if I have suggested it to Ms GL on occasions.
It's the current/ampage that kills, not the voltage. People have survived thousands of volts.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:44 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Lemoentjie wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:56 pm
GogLais wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:41 pm Electricity is a mystery to me but surely the charging cable isn’t at mains voltage. I do realise that propping an electric fire on the edge of the bath isn’t a good idea even if I have suggested it to Ms GL on occasions.
It's the current/ampage that kills, not the voltage. People have survived thousands of volts.
50k or more from a van der graaf and harmless.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:40 pm
by Sandstorm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:44 pm
Lemoentjie wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:56 pm
GogLais wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:41 pm Electricity is a mystery to me but surely the charging cable isn’t at mains voltage. I do realise that propping an electric fire on the edge of the bath isn’t a good idea even if I have suggested it to Ms GL on occasions.
It's the current/ampage that kills, not the voltage. People have survived thousands of volts.
50k or more from a van der graaf and harmless.
In the bath?

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:51 pm
by Uncle fester
GogLais wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:41 pm Electricity is a mystery to me but surely the charging cable isn’t at mains voltage. I do realise that propping an electric fire on the edge of the bath isn’t a good idea even if I have suggested it to Ms GL on occasions.
Far from an expert in electricity (despite being responsible for 38kv transformers and circuit breakers in work) but it can happen if the charger is crap and doesn't transform to a lower voltage properly.
BBC News - Man dies charging iPhone while in the bath
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39307418

Also Russian safety standards would be poor. Was the place fitted with RCD's?

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:45 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:51 pm Was the place fitted with RCD's?
:lol:
Nails for fuse wire.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:50 pm
by Ymx
As most have said 5V wouldn’t do it. Current is a ratio of voltage, and ...

If this story is true it’s only really possible if the 5V side was somehow became directly connected to the phase of the 230V. And the bath then became the ground for the full whack.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:01 pm
by Lemoentjie
Ymx wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:50 pm As most have said 5V wouldn’t do it. Current is a ratio of voltage, and ...

If this story is true it’s only really possible if the 5V side was somehow became directly connected to the phase of the 230V. And the bath then became the ground for the full whack.
As a rule of thumb you need at least 40V to die. Maybe she was using a bootleg charger?

Also unless it's been modernised, she was probably using 60s era Soviet electrical safety levels

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:14 am
by Enzedder
Slightly relevant

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Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:59 am
by Ymx
Blimey Enz. That’s some dark thoughts considering the alleged situation.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:07 am
by Torquemada 1420
Ymx wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:59 am Blimey Enz. That’s some dark thoughts considering the alleged situation.
Rather like the fred title, Enz has a point. The price was terrible but taking any kind of wired electricity into a bath tub is some level of dumb.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:37 pm
by Openside
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:01 pm :cool:
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 am
Terrible waste:
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Do we know if her last selfie survived the dip?
:clap: :clap: proper foruming

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:55 pm
by ASMO
Openside wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:37 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:01 pm :cool:
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 am
Terrible waste:
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Do we know if her last selfie survived the dip?
:clap: :clap: proper foruming
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Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:39 pm
by Yeeb
Not dissimilar was some bimbo leaning out of a car window wearing a bikini, doing a selfie whilst being driven along a road with a pretty view behind. Was busy looking at phone and didn’t notice the roadsign that they had veered a bit too close to - splat !

Edit - I recalled it a bit inaccurately , but the tits out & her dying part were spot on - was another Russian ! They are bonkers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... g-car.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit ... ar_window/

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:27 pm
by Openside
Yeeb wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:39 pm Not dissimilar was some bimbo leaning out of a car window wearing a bikini, doing a selfie whilst being driven along a road with a pretty view behind. Was busy looking at phone and didn’t notice the roadsign that they had veered a bit too close to - splat !

Edit - I recalled it a bit inaccurately , but the tits out & her dying part were spot on - was another Russian ! They are bonkers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... g-car.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit ... ar_window/
she doesn't qualify as she had an eight year old son.

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:32 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Yeeb wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:39 pm Not dissimilar was some bimbo leaning out of a car window wearing a bikini, doing a selfie whilst being driven along a road with a pretty view behind. Was busy looking at phone and didn’t notice the roadsign that they had veered a bit too close to - splat !

Edit - I recalled it a bit inaccurately , but the tits out & her dying part were spot on - was another Russian ! They are bonkers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... g-car.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit ... ar_window/
They censor her boobs but not her head splattering a lamppost :think:

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:11 pm
by Insane_Homer

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:17 pm
by Kawazaki
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:11 pm


That's got fake writ large all over it

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:30 pm
by fishfoodie
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:17 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:11 pm


That's got fake writ large all over it
It is actually a picture of one of those who died in a 'medical event', at the coup attempt; but all we know is that it's been reported as a heart attack

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:12 pm
by Hal Jordan
A lady from the Georgia at the 06th January fucknuts rally who brought a "Don't Tread On Me" flag was...trampled to death.

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/rosanne-bo ... ssion=true

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:22 pm
by BnM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rette.html

Car full of fireworks in the Netherlands explodes after driver smokes a cigarette and throws it out the window... before the wind picks it up and blows it back inside

Still alive but....

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:48 am
by Blackmac
https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/02/gangster ... -20053762/

This lad was a nasty piece of shit. Spent all day on Hogmanay live-streaming, taunting his rivals that they were too chicken to come and get him. Get shot in the head at the bells. 😂

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:34 am
by dpedin
Blackmac wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:48 am https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/02/gangster ... -20053762/

This lad was a nasty piece of shit. Spent all day on Hogmanay live-streaming, taunting his rivals that they were too chicken to come and get him. Get shot in the head at the bells. 😂
I was juror on case against him not long ago in High Court Edinburgh. He was accused of trying to kill a fellow drug crook by ramming his car at high speed etc around Granton/Ferry Road area. First time I learnt what an 'Osman' was - warning your life is in immediate danger. The case collapsed after a few days as the prosecution key witness withdrew her statement made on the day of the crime, pretty obvious that she/family had been 'got at' by someone. He was, as Blackmac suggests, a nasty piece of shit and tbh this was always an inevitable outcome, it was just a matter of when not if. Case opened my middle class eyes to the organized crime scene in Embra though - Rebus isn't that far off the truth!

Re: Darwin award winner.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:14 pm
by Blackmac
dpedin wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:34 am
Blackmac wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:48 am https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/02/gangster ... -20053762/

This lad was a nasty piece of shit. Spent all day on Hogmanay live-streaming, taunting his rivals that they were too chicken to come and get him. Get shot in the head at the bells. 😂
I was juror on case against him not long ago in High Court Edinburgh. He was accused of trying to kill a fellow drug crook by ramming his car at high speed etc around Granton/Ferry Road area. First time I learnt what an 'Osman' was - warning your life is in immediate danger. The case collapsed after a few days as the prosecution key witness withdrew her statement made on the day of the crime, pretty obvious that she/family had been 'got at' by someone. He was, as Blackmac suggests, a nasty piece of shit and tbh this was always an inevitable outcome, it was just a matter of when not if. Case opened my middle class eyes to the organized crime scene in Embra though - Rebus isn't that far off the truth!

Edinburgh criminals have not been nearly as violent as their Glasgow counterparts and shootings are rare. Webley, and the lads I'm pretty sure were behind this, all grew up together and were initially mates. They took over the north side of Edinburgh from the old Drylaw Team who were more old school and not as prone to violence as the young lads. Most of them are too thick and too hands on to avoid getting caught for one thing or another and have spent most of their adult lives in jail.

The police quietly love these types of crimes which we refer to as "two for the price of one" murders as we get two shit stains off the street.