So, coronavirus...

[Ovals]

In many US states there is an oversupply because of reluctance. It’s disturbing. Even walk-up vaccinations aren’t helping much.

Also a large number of people skipping jab 2 apparently

I wondered if the take up for the 2nd jab would fall off in the UK.

Overall the % of people get vaxxed in the UK has been very encouraging - despite the AZ blood clot scares - I think we were fortunate that we'd done 20m+ by the time the scares surfaced - people could see the risks were tiny and the benefits huge. We'll have to see how we get on as we move on to the younger groups that are less at risk.

[Fangle]

In many US states there is an oversupply because of reluctance. It’s disturbing. Even walk-up vaccinations aren’t helping much.

Also a large number of people skipping jab 2 apparently

Generally the current numbers by state are about 35% first jab and 22% second, and moving slowly.

Even a nurse where my wife is in hospital is not getting done. Boggles the mind.


Editing to say that this clinic is currently largely used for patients recovering, getting back their strength and doing rehab after Covid. Many empty rooms.

[Saint]

In many US states there is an oversupply because of reluctance. It’s disturbing. Even walk-up vaccinations aren’t helping much.

Also a large number of people skipping jab 2 apparently

I wondered if the take up for the 2nd jab would fall off in the UK.

Overall the % of people get vaxxed in the UK has been very encouraging - despite the AZ blood clot scares - I think we were fortunate that we'd done 20m+ by the time the scares surfaced - people could see the risks were tiny and the benefits huge. We'll have to see how we get on as we move on to the younger groups that are less at risk.

We're already spending a lot of money on getting the under 40s/30s to take the jab when offered. Very pro-active campaigning going on

[Ovals]

Also a large number of people skipping jab 2 apparently

I wondered if the take up for the 2nd jab would fall off in the UK.

Overall the % of people get vaxxed in the UK has been very encouraging - despite the AZ blood clot scares - I think we were fortunate that we'd done 20m+ by the time the scares surfaced - people could see the risks were tiny and the benefits huge. We'll have to see how we get on as we move on to the younger groups that are less at risk.

We're already spending a lot of money on getting the under 40s/30s to take the jab when offered. Very pro-active campaigning going on

All very positive. It is odd how somewhere like the UK seems to be so pro covid vaccine, yet France, and others, appear very reluctant. Of course, the EU haven't helped matters by being all over the place in how they've managed their vaccine programmes and put doubt into minds about safety and efficacy.

[Raggs]

I wondered if the take up for the 2nd jab would fall off in the UK.

Overall the % of people get vaxxed in the UK has been very encouraging - despite the AZ blood clot scares - I think we were fortunate that we'd done 20m+ by the time the scares surfaced - people could see the risks were tiny and the benefits huge. We'll have to see how we get on as we move on to the younger groups that are less at risk.

We're already spending a lot of money on getting the under 40s/30s to take the jab when offered. Very pro-active campaigning going on

All very positive. It is odd how somewhere like the UK seems to be so pro covid vaccine, yet France, and others, appear very reluctant. Of course, the EU haven't helped matters by being all over the place in how they've managed their vaccine programmes and put doubt into minds about safety and efficacy.

I think the effect on the numbers is really helping people see the benefits too. The more time passes, the more I think on Breton's "tortoise and hare" comment, where he reckoned that the EU would surpass the UK, but the numbers alone make it very clear that the hare approach was the better one.

[Saint]

We're already spending a lot of money on getting the under 40s/30s to take the jab when offered. Very pro-active campaigning going on

All very positive. It is odd how somewhere like the UK seems to be so pro covid vaccine, yet France, and others, appear very reluctant. Of course, the EU haven't helped matters by being all over the place in how they've managed their vaccine programmes and put doubt into minds about safety and efficacy.

I think the effect on the numbers is really helping people see the benefits too. The more time passes, the more I think on Breton's "tortoise and hare" comment, where he reckoned that the EU would surpass the UK, but the numbers alone make it very clear that the hare approach was the better one.

There's that; there's also the announced timetabling, there's the very clear message that end of restrictions is tied to vaccination numbers.....

The whole "how do we end this" in the UK has been shockingly good for a country used to complete mediocrity (at best) from its government.

Of course, still plenty to criticise in the "how did we get here" stage, so I guess it averages out

[Raggs]

All very positive. It is odd how somewhere like the UK seems to be so pro covid vaccine, yet France, and others, appear very reluctant. Of course, the EU haven't helped matters by being all over the place in how they've managed their vaccine programmes and put doubt into minds about safety and efficacy.

I think the effect on the numbers is really helping people see the benefits too. The more time passes, the more I think on Breton's "tortoise and hare" comment, where he reckoned that the EU would surpass the UK, but the numbers alone make it very clear that the hare approach was the better one.

There's that; there's also the announced timetabling, there's the very clear message that end of restrictions is tied to vaccination numbers.....

The whole "how do we end this" in the UK has been shockingly good for a country used to complete mediocrity (at best) from its government.

Of course, still plenty to criticise in the "how did we get here" stage, so I guess it averages out

Yeah, I'm more than happy to praise the vaccine approach, but I'm not going to forget the absolute clusterfuck in the leadup, even over christmas and the 1 day school opening. It's basically like there's been two governments, one dealing solely with vaccines, and another doing everything else.

[Ovals]

I think the effect on the numbers is really helping people see the benefits too. The more time passes, the more I think on Breton's "tortoise and hare" comment, where he reckoned that the EU would surpass the UK, but the numbers alone make it very clear that the hare approach was the better one.

There's that; there's also the announced timetabling, there's the very clear message that end of restrictions is tied to vaccination numbers.....

The whole "how do we end this" in the UK has been shockingly good for a country used to complete mediocrity (at best) from its government.

Of course, still plenty to criticise in the "how did we get here" stage, so I guess it averages out

Yeah, I'm more than happy to praise the vaccine approach, but I'm not going to forget the absolute clusterfuck in the leadup, even over christmas and the 1 day school opening. It's basically like there's been two governments, one dealing solely with vaccines, and another doing everything else.

This ^

And I still think the EU will struggle to catch us up if their populations are reticent to take the AZ and J&J vaccines - and all vaccines in some places. But I hope they do - it's in our interests that the EU, and all other countries, get vaxxed asap - I'd have no problem with them doing to even faster than us - but they do need to stop fannying around and just get jabs in arms double quick.

[Saint]

There's that; there's also the announced timetabling, there's the very clear message that end of restrictions is tied to vaccination numbers.....

The whole "how do we end this" in the UK has been shockingly good for a country used to complete mediocrity (at best) from its government.

Of course, still plenty to criticise in the "how did we get here" stage, so I guess it averages out

Yeah, I'm more than happy to praise the vaccine approach, but I'm not going to forget the absolute clusterfuck in the leadup, even over christmas and the 1 day school opening. It's basically like there's been two governments, one dealing solely with vaccines, and another doing everything else.

This ^

And I still think the EU will struggle to catch us up if their populations are reticent to take the AZ and J&J vaccines - and all vaccines in some places. But I hope they do - it's in our interests that the EU, and all other countries, get vaxxed asap - I'd have no problem with them doing to even faster than us - but they do need to stop fannying around and just get jabs in arms double quick.

They're not going to catch us up, simple as that. There's been very few days when even a single EU country has delivered more jabs per person than the UK - as far as I can tell there hasn't been a single day where the EU as a whole has managed this. So every day, we move further ahead of the EU

[Sandstorm]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

[Saint]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

That's a fail then - she even got an EU logo plaster to go with it

[fishfoodie]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

Can we please stop this Nationalistic dick waving ?

The virus doesn't give a fuck what football team you support; or what anthem you stand up for !

If the UK wants to send a million doses of vaccine to Ireland; I can guarantee they'll find people ready to take them; & in the meanwhile; listening to the dick waving from the UK, is getting pretty damn old !

[Kiwias]

A contractor my wife uses at her company was tested positive and is in hospital, along with his wife and father, but my wife tested negative yesterday.

Whew!

[Kiwias]

Absolutely stunning stuff from a private school in Florida, and it seems to be legit. My favourite bits in a letter the school sent to all employees would be this.

Reports have surfaced recently of non-vaccinated people being negatively impacted by interacting with people who have been vaccinated. Even among our own population, we have at least three women with menstrual cycles impacted after having spent time with a vaccinated person.

https://jezebel.com/florida-private-sch ... 1846768429

[Calculon]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

Can we please stop this Nationalistic dick waving ?

The virus doesn't give a fuck what football team you support; or what anthem you stand up for !

If the UK wants to send a million doses of vaccine to Ireland; I can guarantee they'll find people ready to take them; & in the meanwhile; listening to the dick waving from the UK, is getting pretty damn old !

it's fucking tedious, maybe we can have a seperate UK vs EU (Ireland) thread for it.

[Calculon]

In many US states there is an oversupply because of reluctance. It’s disturbing. Even walk-up vaccinations aren’t helping much.

My brother got his vaccination from a walk-in centre in Vermont. I wish I had the option here.

[Paddington Bear]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

Can we please stop this Nationalistic dick waving ?

The virus doesn't give a fuck what football team you support; or what anthem you stand up for !

If the UK wants to send a million doses of vaccine to Ireland; I can guarantee they'll find people ready to take them; & in the meanwhile; listening to the dick waving from the UK, is getting pretty damn old !

I'd be fascinated to see the commentary if Brexit Britain had made a hash of it's vaccination effort.

[Sandstorm]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

Can we please stop this Nationalistic dick waving ?

The virus doesn't give a fuck what football team you support; or what anthem you stand up for !

If the UK wants to send a million doses of vaccine to Ireland; I can guarantee they'll find people ready to take them; & in the meanwhile; listening to the dick waving from the UK, is getting pretty damn old !

Only a million? That’s less than 25% uptake. You guys have some serious anti-vaxer convincing to do!

[tabascoboy]

People aged 42 and over in England are now able to book their Covid-19 jab, the health secretary has said.

Those who are due to turn 42 by 1 July are also eligible to make an appointment under the latest extension of the vaccine rollout.

[laurent]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

Can we please stop this Nationalistic dick waving ?

The virus doesn't give a fuck what football team you support; or what anthem you stand up for !

If the UK wants to send a million doses of vaccine to Ireland; I can guarantee they'll find people ready to take them; & in the meanwhile; listening to the dick waving from the UK, is getting pretty damn old !

I'd be fascinated to see the commentary if Brexit Britain had made a hash of it's vaccination effort.

Not enough interested in Mudslinging round here thankfully.

[Slick]

I want my 3rd jab before Van Der Lying gets her 1st.

Can we please stop this Nationalistic dick waving ?

The virus doesn't give a fuck what football team you support; or what anthem you stand up for !

If the UK wants to send a million doses of vaccine to Ireland; I can guarantee they'll find people ready to take them; & in the meanwhile; listening to the dick waving from the UK, is getting pretty damn old !

I'd be fascinated to see the commentary if Brexit Britain had made a hash of it's vaccination effort.

Quite, food shortages a decimated economy and becoming and international irrelevance are hilarious apparently. Being pleased with this rollout is dickwaving.

[Saint]

Really positive numbers coming out of the UK still

Over the last 7 days:
Tests conducted increased by 6.2%
Positive tests returned decreased by 6.5%
Deaths within 28 days decreased by 6.9%
Patients admitted decreased by 21.3%

Vaccinations continuing at around 3.5 million per week. 33.8 million people now have at least 1 dose, of which 12.9 million have had their second dose as well. According to the vaccine calculators, an 18 year old should expect to get their first jab no later than 2nd July at the current rate

[sockwithaticket]

People aged 42 and over in England are now able to book their Covid-19 jab, the health secretary has said.

Those who are due to turn 42 by 1 July are also eligible to make an appointment under the latest extension of the vaccine rollout.

Starting to get a little bit excited now. The age seems to be coming down fairly swiftly, so those of us just into our 30s shouldn't have to wait too much longer.

[TheNatalShark]

Really positive numbers coming out of the UK still

Vaccinations continuing at around 3.5 million per week. 33.8 million people now have at least 1 dose, of which 12.9 million have had their second dose as well. According to the vaccine calculators, an 18 year old should expect to get their first jab no later than 2nd July at the current rate

I'm thinking I can lock in my next blood donation appointment now. Supposed to wait 8 days after vaccination according to website but the welcome booklet referenced two weeks, and would be donating c 10th July, and working under assumption second dose would be within earliest late Jul/Aug.

[Bullet]

Was due to get 2nd jab on Friday but surgery texted this morning to cancel.
Thinking it was an issue with Pfizer supply I went on the booking site and got an appointment for tomorrow lunchtime.

[Openside]

Also a large number of people skipping jab 2 apparently

I wondered if the take up for the 2nd jab would fall off in the UK.

Overall the % of people get vaxxed in the UK has been very encouraging - despite the AZ blood clot scares - I think we were fortunate that we'd done 20m+ by the time the scares surfaced - people could see the risks were tiny and the benefits huge. We'll have to see how we get on as we move on to the younger groups that are less at risk.

We're already spending a lot of money on getting the under 40s/30s to take the jab when offered. Very pro-active campaigning going on

I was thinking there isn't much incentive for the 18-24 bracket to have it and then I played golf with a Uni student that reckoned he and at least 4 of his mates had had Covid and developed Arythmia as a result of exercising with the virus when they were feeling fine??

[Openside]

Can we please stop this Nationalistic dick waving ?

The virus doesn't give a fuck what football team you support; or what anthem you stand up for !

If the UK wants to send a million doses of vaccine to Ireland; I can guarantee they'll find people ready to take them; & in the meanwhile; listening to the dick waving from the UK, is getting pretty damn old !

I'd be fascinated to see the commentary if Brexit Britain had made a hash of it's vaccination effort.

Quite, food shortages a decimated economy and becoming and international irrelevance are hilarious apparently. Being pleased with this rollout is dickwaving.

[sockwithaticket]

I wondered if the take up for the 2nd jab would fall off in the UK.

Overall the % of people get vaxxed in the UK has been very encouraging - despite the AZ blood clot scares - I think we were fortunate that we'd done 20m+ by the time the scares surfaced - people could see the risks were tiny and the benefits huge. We'll have to see how we get on as we move on to the younger groups that are less at risk.

We're already spending a lot of money on getting the under 40s/30s to take the jab when offered. Very pro-active campaigning going on

I was thinking there isn't much incentive for the 18-24 bracket to have it and then I played golf with a Uni student that reckoned he and at least 4 of his mates had had Covid and developed Arythmia as a result of exercising with the virus when they were feeling fine??

There was a study, admittedly with a small sample size, that came out of a US college showing a really concerning level of impact on the lungs of athletes there.

Younger people may be at less risk of actual death, but this thing can still cause significant problems for us. I will get my vaccine as soon as permitted.

[Raggs]

We're already spending a lot of money on getting the under 40s/30s to take the jab when offered. Very pro-active campaigning going on

I was thinking there isn't much incentive for the 18-24 bracket to have it and then I played golf with a Uni student that reckoned he and at least 4 of his mates had had Covid and developed Arythmia as a result of exercising with the virus when they were feeling fine??

There was a study, admittedly with a small sample size, that came out of a US college showing a really concerning level of impact on the lungs of athletes there.

Younger people may be at less risk of actual death, but this thing can still cause significant problems for us. I will get my vaccine as soon as permitted.

Not sure if it's the one I'm thinking of, but another for us college athletes was showing heart damage.

[sockwithaticket]

I was thinking there isn't much incentive for the 18-24 bracket to have it and then I played golf with a Uni student that reckoned he and at least 4 of his mates had had Covid and developed Arythmia as a result of exercising with the virus when they were feeling fine??

There was a study, admittedly with a small sample size, that came out of a US college showing a really concerning level of impact on the lungs of athletes there.

Younger people may be at less risk of actual death, but this thing can still cause significant problems for us. I will get my vaccine as soon as permitted.

Not sure if it's the one I'm thinking of, but another for us college athletes was showing heart damage.

Just tried googling around to figure out what I read and it must have been the Ohio State one around heart damage which time has replaced with lung damage in my memory.

[Raggs]

In an argument with a random facebook person. Why do I do this to myself?

Nevertheless, it's led me down some interesting rabbit holes. He's trying to argue that the guy who invented PCR, says it can't be used to detect viruses. When I present him with scientific papers written by the inventor of PCR, using PCR to detect HIV, he's just handwaving it...

I console myself with the thought that maybe someone on the fence is reading this, and coming down the correct side.

[Saint]

In an argument with a random facebook person. Why do I do this to myself?

Nevertheless, it's led me down some interesting rabbit holes. He's trying to argue that the guy who invented PCR, says it can't be used to detect viruses. When I present him with scientific papers written by the inventor of PCR, using PCR to detect HIV, he's just handwaving it...

I console myself with the thought that maybe someone on the fence is reading this, and coming down the correct side.

It's impossible to win this - they take a quote out of context - in this case that PCR tests don't detect the presence of the virus - and don't read through the full explanation. Which is technically - the PCR test doesn't detect the virus, but genetic material from the virus. And then they totally ignore that if you have enough virus genetic material to be detected, you almost certainly have the virus

[Raggs]

In an argument with a random facebook person. Why do I do this to myself?

Nevertheless, it's led me down some interesting rabbit holes. He's trying to argue that the guy who invented PCR, says it can't be used to detect viruses. When I present him with scientific papers written by the inventor of PCR, using PCR to detect HIV, he's just handwaving it...

I console myself with the thought that maybe someone on the fence is reading this, and coming down the correct side.

It's impossible to win this - they take a quote out of context - in this case that PCR tests don't detect the presence of the virus - and don't read through the full explanation. Which is technically - the PCR test doesn't detect the virus, but genetic material from the virus. And then they totally ignore that if you have enough virus genetic material to be detected, you almost certainly have the virus

It wasn't even that. It was just some nonsense about the guy disagreeing that HIV leads to AIDS, and how he doesn't like Fauci. If it had been that, I could have at least understood a little more.

[Saint]

In an argument with a random facebook person. Why do I do this to myself?

Nevertheless, it's led me down some interesting rabbit holes. He's trying to argue that the guy who invented PCR, says it can't be used to detect viruses. When I present him with scientific papers written by the inventor of PCR, using PCR to detect HIV, he's just handwaving it...

I console myself with the thought that maybe someone on the fence is reading this, and coming down the correct side.

It's impossible to win this - they take a quote out of context - in this case that PCR tests don't detect the presence of the virus - and don't read through the full explanation. Which is technically - the PCR test doesn't detect the virus, but genetic material from the virus. And then they totally ignore that if you have enough virus genetic material to be detected, you almost certainly have the virus

It wasn't even that. It was just some nonsense about the guy disagreeing that HIV leads to AIDS, and how he doesn't like Fauci. If it had been that, I could have at least understood a little more.

You're debating with an African dictator on FB? Very impressed

[Raggs]

It's impossible to win this - they take a quote out of context - in this case that PCR tests don't detect the presence of the virus - and don't read through the full explanation. Which is technically - the PCR test doesn't detect the virus, but genetic material from the virus. And then they totally ignore that if you have enough virus genetic material to be detected, you almost certainly have the virus

It wasn't even that. It was just some nonsense about the guy disagreeing that HIV leads to AIDS, and how he doesn't like Fauci. If it had been that, I could have at least understood a little more.

You're debating with an African dictator on FB? Very impressed

Nah,. the guy who invented PCR didn't think that HIV lead to AIDS. He's dead now though (conspiratorially just before covid came about).

[fishfoodie]

India might have 1/2 billion covid cases and health care workers think about 990 000 deaths, awful but not too surprising.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/india/in ... index.html

When they're running low on wood to cremate the dead; I think that tells you all you need to know.

[Saint]

India might have 1/2 billion covid cases and health care workers think about 990 000 deaths, awful but not too surprising.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/india/in ... index.html

When they're running low on wood to cremate the dead; I think that tells you all you need to know.

The law of big numbers kicks in and there's only one possible answer.

There's a lot of ugly stuff out there that isn't being reported

[Happyhooker]

India might have 1/2 billion covid cases and health care workers think about 990 000 deaths, awful but not too surprising.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/india/in ... index.html

When they're running low on wood to cremate the dead; I think that tells you all you need to know.

The law of big numbers kicks in and there's only one possible answer.

There's a lot of ugly stuff out there that isn't being reported

tbh, i remember seeing pictures of train/coach stations in india about a year ago where everyone who'd been laid off was returning home to their villages and i've often wndered how their spike(s) have been so delayed. weather? it hadn't hit there properly yet? underreporting.

i genuinely can't see how they can justify continuing with the ipl. if i were a foreign player, i'd be on the plane home as the aussie lads did yesterday

[fishfoodie]

When they're running low on wood to cremate the dead; I think that tells you all you need to know.

The law of big numbers kicks in and there's only one possible answer.

There's a lot of ugly stuff out there that isn't being reported

tbh, i remember seeing pictures of train/coach stations in india about a year ago where everyone who'd been laid off was returning home to their villages and i've often wndered how their spike(s) have been so delayed. weather? it hadn't hit there properly yet? underreporting.

i genuinely can't see how they can justify continuing with the ipl. if i were a foreign player, i'd be on the plane home as the aussie lads did yesterday

The VJP are still letting the endless fucking religious festivals continue, FFS !

They're worse than populous; they're fucking Nationalist, Religious fundamentalists; & they're happier letting people die by the thousands; than do whats best of the Country !

[Happyhooker]

The law of big numbers kicks in and there's only one possible answer.

There's a lot of ugly stuff out there that isn't being reported

tbh, i remember seeing pictures of train/coach stations in india about a year ago where everyone who'd been laid off was returning home to their villages and i've often wndered how their spike(s) have been so delayed. weather? it hadn't hit there properly yet? underreporting.

i genuinely can't see how they can justify continuing with the ipl. if i were a foreign player, i'd be on the plane home as the aussie lads did yesterday

The VJP are still letting the endless fucking religious festivals continue, FFS !

They're worse than populous; they're fucking Nationalist, Religious fundamentalists; & they're happier letting people die by the thousands; than do whats best of the Country !

phew, at least my leader wouldn't let the bodies pile up by the thousaaaaaaaaaaa...... ah, ok