Trick to mincing your own is getting the salt right.FalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:22 am Doing a burger night tonight. Watched Kenji Alt-Lopez's video on Burger Myths. Have bought brisket, Chuck and rump to make a blend in my mincer. Always disappointed with my home made burgers. So going to change it up with the meat. Will be doing them on a griddle over charcoal.
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Flame grilling will help to get that smoky taste.sorCrer wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 12:35 pmTrick to mincing your own is getting the salt right.FalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:22 am Doing a burger night tonight. Watched Kenji Alt-Lopez's video on Burger Myths. Have bought brisket, Chuck and rump to make a blend in my mincer. Always disappointed with my home made burgers. So going to change it up with the meat. Will be doing them on a griddle over charcoal.
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Trick to mince is to go to a good butcher.
Flame grilled includes cooking on gas.handyman wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 1:10 pmFlame grilling will help to get that smoky taste.sorCrer wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 12:35 pmTrick to mincing your own is getting the salt right.FalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:22 am Doing a burger night tonight. Watched Kenji Alt-Lopez's video on Burger Myths. Have bought brisket, Chuck and rump to make a blend in my mincer. Always disappointed with my home made burgers. So going to change it up with the meat. Will be doing them on a griddle over charcoal.
Chargrilled gets the smoky taste. In other words like in braai.
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Burgers turned out amazing. Followed Kenji's tips. No salt during mincing. Blended the meat cuts. Half freeze before grinding. Did them on a skillet and then for 30 seconds each side on some smoke from apple wood I bought back from Ceres.Sards wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 6:22 pmFlame grilled includes cooking on gas.
Chargrilled gets the smoky taste. In other words like in braai.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 6:27 pmBurgers turned out amazing. Followed Kenji's tips. No salt during mincing. Blended the meat cuts. Half freeze before grinding. Did them on a skillet and then for 30 seconds each side on some smoke and coals from apple wood I bought back from Ceres.
Sounds amazingFalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 6:28 pmFalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 6:27 pmBurgers turned out amazing. Followed Kenji's tips. No salt during mincing. Blended the meat cuts. Half freeze before grinding. Did them on a skillet and then for 30 seconds each side on some smoke and coals from apple wood I bought back from Ceres.Sards wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 6:22 pm
Flame grilled includes cooking on gas.
Chargrilled gets the smoky taste. In other words like in braai.
Kenji is ‘n flippen genius, but grinding your own mince is a bit of a faf for me.FalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:22 am Doing a burger night tonight. Watched Kenji Alt-Lopez's video on Burger Myths. Have bought brisket, Chuck and rump to make a blend in my mincer. Always disappointed with my home made burgers. So going to change it up with the meat. Will be doing them on a griddle over charcoal.
I like me some smash burgers; but also try to keep
it easy and simple. Get some 80/20 mince from my butcher, loosely balled into 65g balls, salt and pepper just before smashing them into a smoking hot cast iron skillet.
The buns also make a massive difference. Woolies ultimate budget buns are easily accessible, but a bit pricey. 100% worth it though.
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My Mrs make the best frikkadele and hamburger patties. Hamburgers on the grill is fantastic. First braai the patties, with Chillies braaisauce recepy. Then do the layers, onion, cheese and one side of the bun, turn over the grill and tomato cheese and other side of the bun on the other side. Braai slowly till cheese are melted and bun is toasted on both sides.make sure the patty/ bun don't stick on the grill. Pack enough burgers on the grill.
There is some merit in what he says.
His patty is so thin if it is seasoned before it is formed the moisture will come out a bit, if made and left for a while.
However, by almost "deep frying" the patty for only a minute per side, most of the seasoning on the outside will burn off. The patty will be juicy because it is deep fried quickly. Also know as oily
For me......
I fry some finely diced onion and garlic in olive oil.
Let it cool.
Season the mince with salt & pepper, mix the onion and garlic through.
Form 200g balls. Allow to rest or set in the fridge for about 20 minutes.
Place the ball in a slightly oiled pan, and push down.
Or push it down if going to braai. I will oil the patty a bit if going to braai it.
His patty is so thin if it is seasoned before it is formed the moisture will come out a bit, if made and left for a while.
However, by almost "deep frying" the patty for only a minute per side, most of the seasoning on the outside will burn off. The patty will be juicy because it is deep fried quickly. Also know as oily
For me......
I fry some finely diced onion and garlic in olive oil.
Let it cool.
Season the mince with salt & pepper, mix the onion and garlic through.
Form 200g balls. Allow to rest or set in the fridge for about 20 minutes.
Place the ball in a slightly oiled pan, and push down.
Or push it down if going to braai. I will oil the patty a bit if going to braai it.
Now a 200 gram patty is the business.Chilli wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 6:44 am There is some merit in what he says.
His patty is so thin if it is seasoned before it is formed the moisture will come out a bit, if made and left for a while.
However, by almost "deep frying" the patty for only a minute per side, most of the seasoning on the outside will burn off. The patty will be juicy because it is deep fried quickly. Also know as oily
For me......
I fry some finely diced onion and garlic in olive oil.
Let it cool.
Season the mince with salt & pepper, mix the onion and garlic through.
Form 200g balls. Allow to rest or set in the fridge for about 20 minutes.
Place the ball in a slightly oiled pan, and push down.
Or push it down if going to braai. I will oil the patty a bit if going to braai it.
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Ja I followed his method but put them on the braai for a tiny bit of smoke at the end so they weren't to greasy.
Blake, lockdown has turned me into a right kitchen faffer. I have been making my own boerie, sausages and bacon. Also lots of cheese. Have mastered mozzarella and make an OK feta style cheese. Beerlab in Cape Town has all the supplies. Oh I did a bit of beermaking too.
Blake, lockdown has turned me into a right kitchen faffer. I have been making my own boerie, sausages and bacon. Also lots of cheese. Have mastered mozzarella and make an OK feta style cheese. Beerlab in Cape Town has all the supplies. Oh I did a bit of beermaking too.
Woolies rolls are shite. In fact, Woolies bread generally is crap apart possibly from Tant Annie's and their wholewheat sourdough. I try to get to a proper bakery if possible.Blake wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 7:28 pmKenji is ‘n flippen genius, but grinding your own mince is a bit of a faf for me.FalseBayFC wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:22 am Doing a burger night tonight. Watched Kenji Alt-Lopez's video on Burger Myths. Have bought brisket, Chuck and rump to make a blend in my mincer. Always disappointed with my home made burgers. So going to change it up with the meat. Will be doing them on a griddle over charcoal.
I like me some smash burgers; but also try to keep
it easy and simple. Get some 80/20 mince from my butcher, loosely balled into 65g balls, salt and pepper just before smashing them into a smoking hot cast iron skillet.
The buns also make a massive difference. Woolies ultimate budget buns are easily accessible, but a bit pricey. 100% worth it though.
Ja. A decent size patty that is cooked just past medium.handyman wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 6:53 amNow a 200 gram patty is the business.Chilli wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 6:44 am There is some merit in what he says.
His patty is so thin if it is seasoned before it is formed the moisture will come out a bit, if made and left for a while.
However, by almost "deep frying" the patty for only a minute per side, most of the seasoning on the outside will burn off. The patty will be juicy because it is deep fried quickly. Also know as oily
For me......
I fry some finely diced onion and garlic in olive oil.
Let it cool.
Season the mince with salt & pepper, mix the onion and garlic through.
Form 200g balls. Allow to rest or set in the fridge for about 20 minutes.
Place the ball in a slightly oiled pan, and push down.
Or push it down if going to braai. I will oil the patty a bit if going to braai it.
Like I said, maximum result with minimal effort. Ideally I’d like to get some brioche buns from baker (or my make my own) but for minimal effort Woolies’ are the most easily accessible.sorCrer wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 7:14 amWoolies rolls are shite. In fact, Woolies bread generally is crap apart possibly from Tant Annie's and their wholewheat sourdough. I try to get to a proper bakery if possible.
The normal burger buns and hotdog rolls are no different from those you can get at Spar. The ultimate range they stock is more pricey, but significantly better since real butter is used.
gyros is Greek so traditionally made with pork and tsatziki added, often they chuck in a few fries inside the pita. you also get a souvlaki gyros with small cubed roasted pork instead of the rotisserie pork. I went to Greece often as a child so it brings back lots of happy memories. shwarma is arab so they traditionally use lamb, also the type of sauce used is more varied, garlic, chilli, yogurt etc. they are also in my experienced more heavily spiced.
I worked in Mersin, turkey for a while and their local version of the kebab is called a tantuni. completely different tasting though. uses small strips of boiled beef, very distintive taste, but i cant remember the spices they used. the locals are inordinary proud of their tantunis but I got a bit tired of them after a while.
You don't really think of pork & Greece.Calculon wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 7:03 pmgyros is Greek so traditionally made with pork and tsatziki added, often they chuck in a few fries inside the pita. you also get a souvlaki gyros with small cubed roasted pork instead of the rotisserie pork. I went to Greece often as a child so it brings back lots of happy memories. shwarma is arab so they traditionally use lamb, also the type of sauce used is more varied, garlic, chilli, yogurt etc. they are also in my experienced more heavily spiced.
I worked in Mersin, turkey for a while and their local version of the kebab is called a tantuni. completely different tasting though. uses small strips of boiled beef, very distintive taste, but i cant remember the spices they used. the locals are inordinary proud of their tantunis but I got a bit tired of them after a while.
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Calculon do the Chinese braai as much as the Koreans?Calculon wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:49 pm No matter how "gourmet" you make it, a burger is still just a burger. I'd much rather gave a nice gyros or good kebab.
Yes you nailed it there. The fat of the pork also plays nicely with the tsatzikiCalculon wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 7:03 pm gyros is Greek so traditionally made with pork and tsatziki added, often they chuck in a few fries inside the pita. you also get a souvlaki gyros with small cubed roasted pork instead of the rotisserie pork. I went to Greece often as a child so it brings back lots of happy memories. shwarma is arab so they traditionally use lamb, also the type of sauce used is more varied, garlic, chilli, yogurt etc. they are also in my experienced more heavily spiced.
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Deep fried?Chilli wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 5:24 am Made burgers bacon, blue cheese and avo. With sweet potato shoe string chips
I don't deep fry a lot due to the pain of getting rid of the oil
On the 1000's of small greek islands you get pigs, goats and chickens. So lamb and beef aren't common and probably needs to come from the mainland.Chilli wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 8:57 pmYou don't really think of pork & Greece.Calculon wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 7:03 pmgyros is Greek so traditionally made with pork and tsatziki added, often they chuck in a few fries inside the pita. you also get a souvlaki gyros with small cubed roasted pork instead of the rotisserie pork. I went to Greece often as a child so it brings back lots of happy memories. shwarma is arab so they traditionally use lamb, also the type of sauce used is more varied, garlic, chilli, yogurt etc. they are also in my experienced more heavily spiced.
I worked in Mersin, turkey for a while and their local version of the kebab is called a tantuni. completely different tasting though. uses small strips of boiled beef, very distintive taste, but i cant remember the spices they used. the locals are inordinary proud of their tantunis but I got a bit tired of them after a while.
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In the South West part where I lived very much so. do it yourself bbq restaurants are very popular and on a nice day there will be hundreds of people bbq ing in the parks. Also bbq inside your living room is popular, I only did it once in my flat cos cleaning up afterwards is annoying. Similar style to Korean bbq, bite sized pieces of meat, vegetables and tofu. There are shit loads of different types of tofu and some of them bbq really well.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 3:50 amCalculon do the Chinese braai as much as the Koreans?Calculon wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:49 pm No matter how "gourmet" you make it, a burger is still just a burger. I'd much rather gave a nice gyros or good kebab.
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Koreans love braaiing pork. Sam geyop sal.Calculon wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 6:12 amIn the South West part where I lived very much so. do it yourself bbq restaurants are very popular and on a nice day there will be hundreds of people bbq ing in the parks. Also bbq inside your living room is popular, I only did it once in my flat cos cleaning up afterwards is annoying. Similar style to Korean bbq, bite sized pieces of meat, vegetables and tofu. There are shit loads of different types of tofu and some of them bbq really well.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 3:50 amCalculon do the Chinese braai as much as the Koreans?Calculon wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 1:49 pm No matter how "gourmet" you make it, a burger is still just a burger. I'd much rather gave a nice gyros or good kebab.
Stick it in the Renaultmat the expat wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 5:33 amDeep fried?Chilli wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 5:24 am Made burgers bacon, blue cheese and avo. With sweet potato shoe string chips
I don't deep fry a lot due to the pain of getting rid of the oil
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Sandstorm wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 8:55 amStick it in the Renaultmat the expat wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 5:33 amDeep fried?Chilli wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 5:24 am Made burgers bacon, blue cheese and avo. With sweet potato shoe string chips
I don't deep fry a lot due to the pain of getting rid of the oil

What else can you call it.
It is all very convenient but I hate it. There is something about preparing a bed of coals. Even if it's charcoal.
I have been in negotiations with a major food franchise to do their food on my Diablo. I just got orders for a major food retailer for 2 per shop. To do their ribs in. Trialling 3 shops at first.
This could be an exciting development
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Was he not triggered by the unforgivable inserted apostrophe in the bolded verb?Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:33 pmWhat else can you call it.
It is all very convenient but I hate it. There is something about preparing a bed of coals. Even if it's charcoal.
I have been in negotiations with a major food franchise to do their food on my Diablo. I just got orders for a major food retailer for 2 per shop. To do their ribs in. Trialling 3 shops at first.
This could be an exciting development
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:36 pmWas he not triggered by the unforgivably inserted apostrophe in the bolded verb?Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:33 pmWhat else can you call it.
It is all very convenient but I hate it. There is something about preparing a bed of coals. Even if it's charcoal.
I have been in negotiations with a major food franchise to do their food on my Diablo. I just got orders for a major food retailer for 2 per shop. To do their ribs in. Trialling 3 shops at first.
This could be an exciting development
Sauce has never been a Grammer NaziFalseBayFC wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:36 pmFalseBayFC wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:36 pmWas he not triggered by the unforgivably inserted apostrophe in the bolded verb?Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:33 pm
What else can you call it.
It is all very convenient but I hate it. There is something about preparing a bed of coals. Even if it's charcoal.
I have been in negotiations with a major food franchise to do their food on my Diablo. I just got orders for a major food retailer for 2 per shop. To do their ribs in. Trialling 3 shops at first.
This could be an exciting development
Braaied a rump flap (or Pichana as you call it and pay R50 per kg extra). Well seasoned with maldon salt, coarse pepper, coriander and mustard seeds.
Low and slow over medium coals for 30 minutes, then boom onto hot coals to seal it.
Twas Lovely.
Low and slow over medium coals for 30 minutes, then boom onto hot coals to seal it.
Twas Lovely.
How did you handle the tough skinChilli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:52 pm Braaied a rump flap (or Pichana as you call it and pay R50 per kg extra). Well seasoned with maldon salt, coarse pepper, coriander and mustard seeds.
Low and slow over medium coals for 30 minutes, then boom onto hot coals to seal it.
Twas Lovely.
Chilli still has his own teethSards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:59 amHow did you handle the tough skinChilli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:52 pm Braaied a rump flap (or Pichana as you call it and pay R50 per kg extra). Well seasoned with maldon salt, coarse pepper, coriander and mustard seeds.
Low and slow over medium coals for 30 minutes, then boom onto hot coals to seal it.
Twas Lovely.