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[Sards]

I am just exhausted at being called " white man...'...............

What is so vokken difficult about calling me by name....

[Big Nipper]

I am just exhausted at being called " white man...'...............

What is so vokken difficult about calling me by name....

I am sure Siya Kolisi is not yet tired of hearing he is a black man who got the job because of his skin colour, even though he went on to do as well as possible at said job

But yeah let your white privilege get in the way of the stark reality faced by millions in SA and the US

[assfly]

But yeah let your white privilege get in the way of the stark reality faced by millions in SA and the US

Can you explain what you mean by this?

[Sards]

But yeah let your white privilege get in the way of the stark reality faced by millions in SA and the US

Can you explain what you mean by this?

my white priveledge....


Yeah boet...keep it coming. I have big shoulders and am not resentful of the color of my skin

[handyman]

Not sure what nipper expects us to do? I'm white, nothing I can do about it, I was born like this.

[average joe]

Ja that's the thing, again the us and them mentality. Privilege this and privilege that. In this day and age privilege has nothing to do with skin colour. You have extremely privileged black people and you have white people living in absolute squalor. You get arseholes of all colours and you get good eggs as well.

[Sards]

Guys I am taking this to the Saffer politics thread


As a supporter of south Africa's premier side, leading the Soup tournament against New Zealands , The Argies , Aussies and local cannon fodder sides, I want to keep this rugby.

[Big Nipper]

Ja that's the thing, again the us and them mentality. Privilege this and privilege that. In this day and age privilege has nothing to do with skin colour. You have extremely privileged black people and you have white people living in absolute squalor. You get arseholes of all colours and you get good eggs as well.

Is about proportions: In SA white unemployment is at 7%.

[assfly]

I started watching the 2019 world cup final again last night.

It gets better every time.

I still can't believe the gut on Malherbe. But it does look a bit better with a world cup winner's medal resting on top of it.

[sorCrer]

I still don't rate Siya terribly as a player but he has turned into a leader and that is what is needed. Pienaar and Johnson were also IMO not the best players but first on team sheet.,

[Sards]

Ja that's the thing, again the us and them mentality. Privilege this and privilege that. In this day and age privilege has nothing to do with skin colour. You have extremely privileged black people and you have white people living in absolute squalor. You get arseholes of all colours and you get good eggs as well.

Is about proportions: In SA white unemployment is at 7%.

7 percent of total unemployment?

[OomStruisbaai]

I still don't rate Siya terribly as a player but he has turned into a leader and that is what is needed. Pienaar and Johnson were also IMO not the best players but first on team sheet.,

John Smit also

[OomStruisbaai]

Lot of unrest going on in the Cape.

[Sards]

I still don't rate Siya terribly as a player but he has turned into a leader and that is what is needed. Pienaar and Johnson were also IMO not the best players but first on team sheet.,

John Smit also

Yes. That useless slab that kept Bismarck out the side.
Bismarck Lives Matter

[Sandstorm]

I still don't rate Siya terribly as a player but he has turned into a leader and that is what is needed. Pienaar and Johnson were also IMO not the best players but first on team sheet.,

John Smit also

Yes. That useless slab that kept Bismarck out the side.
Bismarck Lives Matter

Bismarck got his chance in 2015 RWC semi against the ABs and shat the bed.

[Sards]

John Smit also

Yes. That useless slab that kept Bismarck out the side.
Bismarck Lives Matter

Bismarck got his chance in 2015 RWC semi against the ABs and shat the bed.

Do you recall that RWC....rather keep quiet

[OomStruisbaai]

NieNaber plans
S24

EXCLUSIVE | Springbok coach's 'humanity' fears for his squad in NZ

Leaving loved ones in a still virus-afflicted SA will be hard for the Bok players later in the year, warns Jacques Nienaber.
The Bok coach will only sit in front of a full squad for the first time in his new capacity at the Rugby Championship.
He says "rugby capacity" takes some six to eight weeks to build in players.
Steeling his Springbok world champions sufficiently in the extraordinary climate for a defence of the Rugby Championship crown in New Zealand will be tough enough … yet perhaps also the least of head coach Jacques Nienaber's obstacles.

What he calls the "humanity factors" hovering over his charges during the anticipated tournament are already a strong concern for the new Bok mastermind.


In a frank interview with Sport24, Nienaber was responding to the World Rugby revelation earlier this week that a window period from 7 November to 12 December would be set aside for the annual event to be held - in a single country, widely expected to be coronavirus-free New Zealand.

If the Championship goes ahead, it will be the 47-year-old's overdue, extremely formidable debut as head coach in succession to World Cup 2019-winning Rassie Erasmus.


Quite apart from the unique aspect of the major southern-hemisphere Test tournament taking place in a specific hosting country for the first time, Nienaber emphasised that he is acutely aware of the likelihood that the Covid-19 crisis will hardly be a thing of the past back in South Africa by then.

"That raises all sorts of extra anxieties, never mind the massively challenging rugby aspects involved,” said Nienaber (who was described by Erasmus upon assuming the top Bok role as someone who "deals brilliantly with people").

"It is going to very tough for the squad to leave behind wives, children and other loved ones to spend six weeks plus the quarantining needs around the tournament out of South Africa; the coronavirus situation is still so volatile here.

"You can only imagine the predicament facing guys if a close relative, for example, is suddenly badly affected by the virus back home. Can you fly back? Do you fly back? What happens if you then hope to return to the tournament, meaning fresh quarantining requirements?

"I think we will be quite fortunate if that scenario doesn't crop up for someone in our (midst).

"So it is going to very tough mentally to leave our shores for a couple of months... that humanity factor."

Nienaber did not sound overly optimistic, either, about the all-important prospect of getting a domestic rugby competition up and running - after the gap since March - by the end of August, as intended at this point.

"If you look around the world, no country has played sport at the pandemic's peak... and we are not even at that point yet in South Africa. Government may halt all contact sport again if the numbers flare."

The qualified physiotherapist also painted a stark, blunt picture of how far behind their greatest rivals the Boks will be when the Rugby Championship begins.

For one thing, he only expects to be able to sit in front of a full, desired national squad for the first time when they are in New Zealand itself later in the year - all going well - for the initial, enforced isolating period as a group.

"It won't be any time ahead of that: when we finally get together, a lot of water would have gone under the bridge.

"The longer we stay out (not playing competitively in SA), the further we will lag behind the likes of New Zealand and Australian rugby.

"We have just begun training in small groups at the franchises; the New Zealand ones had five weeks of proper training and now some six rounds of Super Rugby Aotearoa - that puts them about 11 weeks ahead of us already.

"Remember that what you call 'rugby capacity' (competitive readiness) takes six to eight weeks to build.

"We will have to accept at the Rugby Championship that our preparation just won't have been of the same quality as New Zealand's; they will also have played Bledisloe Cup Tests against the Wallabies before the tournament even begins, whereas we may be lucky to have five or six purely domestic matches beneath our belts by then."

One shaft of light beckons for Nienaber in around three weeks' time.

The middle of August will signal the first of his not insignificant number of overseas-based Springboks returning to action in the English Premiership (Lood de Jager, Faf de Klerk and Vincent Koch, for example) and a week later Damian de Allende and RG Snyman, both now of Munster, should resurface at PRO14 level.

With all French-based Boks then kicking off in earnest in early September, the national coach will start to get some sort of picture of where his key charges are at, physically and mentally after lockdown.

"We have done roadmaps on all the players," Nienaber said. "It will be good to start seeing video footage of several of them soon in match situations.

"The technology is all there: on a Sunday morning, unless you have had technical hassles, you are usually in a position to download all the relevant (weekend) games."

Just how frustrating has 2020 been so far for a national coach who would have anticipated, upon appointment, already having had three home Tests (two against Scotland, one against Georgia) behind him?

"It's been strange; challenging. This is the first pandemic of this (global magnitude) in around 100 years.

"The real frustration is the fluidity of the situation... we can only work with what we can control.

"Right now the focus is on getting through three weeks of small-group training, and taking it from there..."

[Sards]

sounds like Dobson and Fleck.

[OomStruisbaai]

sounds like Dobson and Fleck.

Are you back to Kokkerot stage?

[Sards]

sounds like Dobson and Fleck.

Are you back to Kokkerot stage?

you don't think it sounds like he is making excuses

[sorCrer]

If we go over there for a tournament we'll get murdered by NZ.

[OomStruisbaai]

sounds like Dobson and Fleck.

Are you back to Kokkerot stage?

you don't think it sounds like he is making excuses

Vlekkie never msde excuses, that was your du Preez.

[Chilli]

If we go over there for a tournament we'll get murdered by NZ.

Agreed.
If the tournament doesn't suit us 100% then we should just decline.
There is no point in going there to be klapped and fill New Zealand Rugbys bank account

[Chilli]

Where are Fleck and Dad these days?
Is Fleck still at the WP?

[assfly]

If we go over there for a tournament we'll get murdered by NZ.

Judging by Jacques Nienaber's comments, I think he agrees.

But we have to play some rugby this year. We're the world vokken champs!

[handyman]

sounds like Dobson and Fleck.

Are you back to Kokkerot stage?

you don't think it sounds like he is making excuses

Sounds more like he is just stating the facts imo.

[Sards]

If we go over there for a tournament we'll get murdered by NZ.

Judging by Jacques Nienaber's comments, I think he agrees.

But we have to play some rugby this year. We're the world vokken champs!

Just dont get it....this is what voks me about WP and their structures...lose the battle in the head before they take the field.
They are like abused children with no confidence


And if the Sharks had to take on a Kiwi sifde I fancy their chances very highly....we would vokken beat the shit out of them.

[handyman]

If we go over there for a tournament we'll get murdered by NZ.

Judging by Jacques Nienaber's comments, I think he agrees.

But we have to play some rugby this year. We're the world vokken champs!

Just dont get it....this is what voks me about WP and their structures...lose the battle in the head before they take the field.
They are like abused children with no confidence


And if the Sharks had to take on a Kiwi sifde I fancy their chances very highly....we would vokken beat the shit out of them.

Boet, you haven't beat a Kiwi team in months!









Ba dum tss.

[Sards]

Judging by Jacques Nienaber's comments, I think he agrees.

But we have to play some rugby this year. We're the world vokken champs!

Just dont get it....this is what voks me about WP and their structures...lose the battle in the head before they take the field.
They are like abused children with no confidence


And if the Sharks had to take on a Kiwi sifde I fancy their chances very highly....we would vokken beat the shit out of them.

Boet, you haven't beat a Kiwi team in months!









Ba dum tss.

Vok me...the Capies are defeated in the head. Perfect example here....Like Oom Cyril...no vokken balls.

[Sandstorm]

And if the Sharks had to take on a Kiwi sifde I fancy their chances very highly....we would vokken beat the shit out of them.

Delusional in 2020.

[Sards]

And if the Sharks had to take on a Kiwi sifde I fancy their chances very highly....we would vokken beat the shit out of them.

Delusional in 2020.

Think so.....another example of a WP supporter who lacks any balls....but we new that already princess.

We beat many Kiwi sides in 2020 girly

[Sandstorm]

We beat many Kiwi sides in 2020 girly

You beat 1. Are you Donald Trump?

[Sards]

We beat many Kiwi sides in 2020 girly

You beat 1. Are you Donald Trump?

Do you think Donald is sexy girl......?
Because I can be like Donald if you want...

So we beat Kiwi sides and the Saders and chiefs were too scared to play us....

[handyman]

Just dont get it....this is what voks me about WP and their structures...lose the battle in the head before they take the field.
They are like abused children with no confidence


And if the Sharks had to take on a Kiwi sifde I fancy their chances very highly....we would vokken beat the shit out of them.

Boet, you haven't beat a Kiwi team in months!









Ba dum tss.

Vok me...the Capies are defeated in the head. Perfect example here....Like Oom Cyril...no vokken balls.

Listen, we entertain you on here, but let's not start to compare the history, the tradition and the pedigree between our teams. I don't want to be "that" guy.

[Sards]

Vok me...the Capies are defeated in the head. Perfect example here....Like Oom Cyril...no vokken balls.

Listen, we entertain you on here, but let's not start to compare the history, the tradition and the pedigree between our teams. I don't want to be "that" guy.

Long Past History means vokkol....

[handyman]

Vok me...the Capies are defeated in the head. Perfect example here....Like Oom Cyril...no vokken balls.

Listen, we entertain you on here, but let's not start to compare the history, the tradition and the pedigree between our teams. I don't want to be "that" guy.

Long Past History means vokkol....

Of course it does! Sustained performance over a long period of time is how you measure a team. Sure the Sharks are doing well now, but it's got a bit of a flash in a pan vibe.

We'll see if they can sustain this level of play over decades.

[Sards]

Listen, we entertain you on here, but let's not start to compare the history, the tradition and the pedigree between our teams. I don't want to be "that" guy.

Long Past History means vokkol....

Of course it does! Sustained performance over a long period of time is how you measure a team. Sure the Sharks are doing well now, but it's got a bit of a flash in a pan vibe.

We'll see if they can sustain this level of play over decades.

Started for the Sharks in 1990 boet....I was there to watch that first CC victory.

Thats 3 deacades...good enough for you?

[OomStruisbaai]

Is here a official Guppie thread? Or must I start one.

[handyman]

Long Past History means vokkol....

Of course it does! Sustained performance over a long period of time is how you measure a team. Sure the Sharks are doing well now, but it's got a bit of a flash in a pan vibe.

We'll see if they can sustain this level of play over decades.

Started for the Sharks in 1990 boet....I was there to watch that first CC victory.

Thats 3 deacades...good enough for you?

So in the best period of your union, you are edging us 8 cups to 6? But in the decades prior to that we dominated you.

[Sards]

Started for the Sharks in 1990 boet....I was there to watch that first CC victory.

Thats 3 deacades...good enough for you?

So in the best period of your union, you are edging us 8 cups to 6? But in the decades prior to that we dominated you.

Its not worth it dude...Sharks far outperform the gemors that is WP/Stormers..

My point is that the WP/Stormers team is led by gutless leaders and is a gutless union that cannot handle pressure and Kiwi opposition.
Beaten in the head.