War with Russia

[Insane_Homer]

The cynic in me wonders if if was coincidental it happened on PMQs day under orders almost to provide a distraction from Boris's weekly beasting...?

The 5 year Brexit anniversary dead cat planned distraction, is the answer you were looking for.

[Jock42]

Lol, would love to see the Poms and their tinpot armed forces taught a lesson by the Russians.

Erm... thanks?

[MoreOrLess]

Amazing stroke of luck to have him on board during all of this and of course being allowed to freely report on it

And a BBC reporter as well.

What is this about?

Are there a couple of journalists on every RN ship all the time? Does this sort of thing happen all the time but there's not usually journalists around to report it? Is it pure coincidence that on the rare occasion this happens there also happens to be a press pack on board?

[laurent]

Happens all the time in baltic sea.

You hear about it more often because French German Italian English ... plane are involved.

[tc27]

The cynic in me wonders if if was coincidental it happened on PMQs day under orders almost to provide a distraction from Boris's weekly beasting...?

The 5 year Brexit anniversary dead cat planned distraction, is the answer you were looking for.

Or maybe...just maybe not everything should be seen through the lenses of the bitter Brexit culture war you are still revealing in (and I mean what PR gain do you think the government get from this? Delivering the June 2016 vote is the entire reason for its existence so they would probably prefer to emphasise the date not distract from it).

Annexation of Crimea, the threats to the Baltics, South China seas...none of these things are related to Brexit and British forces are involved (rightly IMO) in the international response to all of them

[Insane_Homer]

Delivering the June 2016 vote is the entire reason for its existence so they would probably prefer to emphasise the date not distract from it).

Yup, one wonders why the HUGE list of benefits were kept off of the front pages.

It's about as obvious as who leaked the Matt Handoncock surveillance video.

[Calculon]

Amazing stroke of luck to have him on board during all of this and of course being allowed to freely report on it

And a BBC reporter as well.

What is this about?

Are there a couple of journalists on every RN ship all the time? Does this sort of thing happen all the time but there's not usually journalists around to report it? Is it pure coincidence that on the rare occasion this happens there also happens to be a press pack on board?

This looks like planned PR exercise by the RN.

[Paddington Bear]

Delivering the June 2016 vote is the entire reason for its existence so they would probably prefer to emphasise the date not distract from it).

Yup, one wonders why the HUGE list of benefits were kept off of the front pages.

It's about as obvious as who leaked the Matt Handoncock surveillance video.

Wait, you’re being serious?

[Insane_Homer]

Delivering the June 2016 vote is the entire reason for its existence so they would probably prefer to emphasise the date not distract from it).

Yup, one wonders why the HUGE list of benefits were kept off of the front pages.

It's about as obvious as who leaked the Matt Handoncock surveillance video.

Wait, you’re being serious?

When it comes to Putin and BOJO, it's more likely probable than not.

Nothing like a bit of posturing to dominate the front pages.

[tc27]

Delivering the June 2016 vote is the entire reason for its existence so they would probably prefer to emphasise the date not distract from it).

Yup, one wonders why the HUGE list of benefits were kept off of the front pages.

It's about as obvious as who leaked the Matt Handoncock surveillance video.

Wait, you’re being serious?

I think Brexit has broken some peoples minds.

[mat the expat]

The Russians are partially doing this to get ELINT off of the T45 Destroyer.

It has the most advanced (and capable) Anti-Air radar suite in the world at present.

It could swat all the planes out of the sky easily

[FalseBayFC]

The Russians are partially doing this to get ELINT off of the T45 Destroyer.

It has the most advanced (and capable) Anti-Air radar suite in the world at present.

It could swat all the planes out of the sky easily

Interesting. Would this be to try and reverse engineer the system or figure out ways to evade it?

[GogLais]

The Russians are partially doing this to get ELINT off of the T45 Destroyer.

It has the most advanced (and capable) Anti-Air radar suite in the world at present.

It could swat all the planes out of the sky easily

No doubt that’s true. It isn’t the first time that a 45 class has been buzzed in the Black Sea, there was a tv documentary about it a year or two ago. On a parochial note Cammell Laird just down the road from me has the billion pound contract to upgrade them.

[tc27]

Its all low grade shithousing based on the assumption no-ones going to actually start shooting for real. The Russians would not seriously try and sink a modern Air Warfare destroyer with a few Su24s and coastguard vessels - likewise a single ship however capable would not expose itself to the full weight of the Russians pretty fearsome anti surface capability a few miles from Russian controlled territory.

[Paddington Bear]

Appreciate the RN is the only navy in the world to have some serious live experience of naval anti-air measures since WW2 but I do have some concerns that British ships seem to comprehensively defeat all air threats in every exercise they announce.

[Ymx]

Appreciate the RN is the only navy in the world to have some serious live experience of naval anti-air measures since WW2 but I do have some concerns that British ships seem to comprehensively defeat all air threats in every exercise they announce.

Really? Assumed they’d be quite far behind the super powers in war tech.

Feel safer now

[GogLais]

Appreciate the RN is the only navy in the world to have some serious live experience of naval anti-air measures since WW2 but I do have some concerns that British ships seem to comprehensively defeat all air threats in every exercise they announce.

Really? Assumed they’d be quite far behind the super powers in war tech.

Feel safer now

What do I know? I’d guess that our tech is pretty high for things like Type 45 and Astute. The trouble is we don’t have the resources to procure them quickly enough and in sufficient numbers.

[Paddington Bear]

Obviously PR guff involved but our submarines are very well regarded.

[mat the expat]

Appreciate the RN is the only navy in the world to have some serious live experience of naval anti-air measures since WW2 but I do have some concerns that British ships seem to comprehensively defeat all air threats in every exercise they announce.

Really? Assumed they’d be quite far behind the super powers in war tech.

Feel safer now

What do I know? I’d guess that our tech is pretty high for things like Type 45 and Astute. The trouble is we don’t have the resources to procure them quickly enough and in sufficient numbers.

Read up on Artisan radar - it's miles ahead of the AEGIS system the Yanks use. Can track Cricket ball sized targets

[JM2K6]

Really? Assumed they’d be quite far behind the super powers in war tech.

Feel safer now

What do I know? I’d guess that our tech is pretty high for things like Type 45 and Astute. The trouble is we don’t have the resources to procure them quickly enough and in sufficient numbers.

Read up on Artisan radar - it's miles ahead of the AEGIS system the Yanks use. Can track Cricket ball sized targets

Any chance we can use it in the England slip cordon?

[Paddington Bear]

Really? Assumed they’d be quite far behind the super powers in war tech.

Feel safer now

What do I know? I’d guess that our tech is pretty high for things like Type 45 and Astute. The trouble is we don’t have the resources to procure them quickly enough and in sufficient numbers.

Read up on Artisan radar - it's miles ahead of the AEGIS system the Yanks use. Can track Cricket ball sized targets

So much of tech upgrades is fighting the last war stuff - West would have been involved in ordering/procuring/maintaining air defence systems, and his ship went down due to air attacks in the Falklands. No surprise it's a higher priority for the RN than the Americans.

[mat the expat]

What do I know? I’d guess that our tech is pretty high for things like Type 45 and Astute. The trouble is we don’t have the resources to procure them quickly enough and in sufficient numbers.

Read up on Artisan radar - it's miles ahead of the AEGIS system the Yanks use. Can track Cricket ball sized targets

So much of tech upgrades is fighting the last war stuff - West would have been involved in ordering/procuring/maintaining air defence systems, and his ship went down due to air attacks in the Falklands. No surprise it's a higher priority for the RN than the Americans.

Correct

[mat the expat]

Any chance we can use it in the England slip cordon?
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