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BTW, we'd look like ants to a Kardashev III civilisation. The classification is something like
KI - uses all the energy of their home planet in their civilisation
KII - uses all the energy of their home solar system
KIII - uses all the energy of their home galaxy
A KIII civilisation is unimaginable to us.
KI - uses all the energy of their home planet in their civilisation
KII - uses all the energy of their home solar system
KIII - uses all the energy of their home galaxy
A KIII civilisation is unimaginable to us.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Is this universe old enough to have a KIII civilisation? Then again I guess you can go from KII to KIII pretty quickly...Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:00 pm BTW, we'd look like ants to a Kardashev III civilisation. The classification is something like
KI - uses all the energy of their home planet in their civilisation
KII - uses all the energy of their home solar system
KIII - uses all the energy of their home galaxy
A KIII civilisation is unimaginable to us.
True... I just remember Brian Cox talking about it.. that there may not be another civilisation ahead of us, because we have appeared just about as early as it's possible to appear... given the length of time that conditions have been right etc... it's a pretty narrow window... but I'm no expert, he sounded convincing to a layman,..Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 pm Well we've gone from not existing as a species to being on the way to KI in less than 100,000 years.
Yeah, I'm unconvinced by his logic tbh, on multiple levels.Grandpa wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:23 pmTrue... I just remember Brian Cox talking about it.. that there may not be another civilisation ahead of us, because we have appeared just about as early as it's possible to appear... given the length of time that conditions have been right etc... it's a pretty narrow window... but I'm no expert, he sounded convincing to a layman,..Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 pm Well we've gone from not existing as a species to being on the way to KI in less than 100,000 years.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
We've got a lot of evolving to do before we become Qs or those big headed people who use telepathy.Grandpa wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:23 pmTrue... I just remember Brian Cox talking about it.. that there may not be another civilisation ahead of us, because we have appeared just about as early as it's possible to appear... given the length of time that conditions have been right etc... it's a pretty narrow window... but I'm no expert, he sounded convincing to a layman,..Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 pm Well we've gone from not existing as a species to being on the way to KI in less than 100,000 years.

If you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
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You don't keep the loan either... usually have to pay back more than you took...Lobby wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:19 pmIf you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
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Indeed, but you can keep what you bought with the loan.Grandpa wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:23 pmYou don't keep the loan either... usually have to pay back more than you took...Lobby wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:19 pmIf you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
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Tell them you gave it to the poor.Lobby wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:19 pmIf you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
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Sheesh, do I have to think of everything.
I drink and I forget things.
Reading a book of rugby history, I just learned Loftus Versfeld was a person! I assumed it meant ‘high green field’.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lo ... a_1891.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lo ... a_1891.jpg
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A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:11 am Reading a book of rugby history, I just learned Loftus Versfeld was a person! I assumed it meant ‘high green field’.![]()
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lo ... a_1891.jpg
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A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:11 am Reading a book of rugby history, I just learned Loftus Versfeld was a person! I assumed it meant ‘high green field’.![]()
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lo ... a_1891.jpg
average joe wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 amA "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:11 am Reading a book of rugby history, I just learned Loftus Versfeld was a person! I assumed it meant ‘high green field’.![]()
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lo ... a_1891.jpg

If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
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I was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pmaverage joe wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 amA "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:11 am Reading a book of rugby history, I just learned Loftus Versfeld was a person! I assumed it meant ‘high green field’.![]()
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lo ... a_1891.jpgI was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
Yes, I listen to a podcast about the history of English (exciting, I know!). They did a few eps iirc on surnames and why they came into being in England (so many Johns and Margarets!). Seems that the first few generations, as you say, were nicknames specific to the person to differentiate (looks, where from, personal quality, profession), but I think it was something to do with inheritance and tax collection that saw surnames sticking in the late medieval period (in England at least). And lots of men worked as their fathers did anyway, so professional names probably stuck for that reason.average joe wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 amI was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pmaverage joe wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 am
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
Estreuxaverage joe wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 amI was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pmaverage joe wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 am
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
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That's the one.Saint wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:53 amEstreuxaverage joe wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 amI was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.Niegs wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pm
I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
I think Oosthuizen is a village in Holland as well, so that presumably derives from there.average joe wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:47 pmThat's the one.Saint wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:53 amEstreuxaverage joe wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 am
I was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
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The Clintons are from Arkansas.
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It's all beginning to make sense now.
Pretty much means East House(s).Saint wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:22 pmI think Oosthuizen is a village in Holland as well, so that presumably derives from there.
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What's wrong with that?sorCrer wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 am Adolf "Adi" Dassler who founded Adidas was member of the Nazi party as was his older brother, Rudolf who founded Puma.
Adi Dassler also became romantically involved with a 15 year old when he was 32, marrying her a year later.RichieRich89 wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:31 pmWhat's wrong with that?sorCrer wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 am Adolf "Adi" Dassler who founded Adidas was member of the Nazi party as was his older brother, Rudolf who founded Puma.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
IIRC, Rudi was conscripted into the Wehrmacht, deserted, was captured, and then sent to a prison camp. The famous animosity between the brothers wasn’t helped by Rudi being pissed off that he was sent away to combat while his younger brother got to stay behind to run the family business.
also think membership was more of a business decision rather than an ideological one
also think membership was more of a business decision rather than an ideological one
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Oh, that kind of thing wasn't unusual in the past.Biffer wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:49 amAdi Dassler also became romantically involved with a 15 year old when he was 32, marrying her a year later.RichieRich89 wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:31 pmWhat's wrong with that?sorCrer wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 am Adolf "Adi" Dassler who founded Adidas was member of the Nazi party as was his older brother, Rudolf who founded Puma.
In Romeo and Juliet, Juliet is 13 and Romeo is thought to be 16-18.