Official Lions selection, moaning and bitching thread

[JM2K6]

Don't even bother chaps, he's just looking for a reaction

[SaintK]

On to next week. The only real changes I'd be crying out for is Daly to be replaced and AWJ be a little more aggressive. Those 2 pens that were missed should have went to the corner IMO (said it at the time).

Seen some criticism of LCD and Surherland at scrum time but immediately after half time it was better. The Bok starting front row were at it. The scrums where they actually had to set rather than engage and faf get it in quickly were night and day.

I reckon Lawes is in as AWJ is wearing a brace to prevent his shoulder from going too far back which renders him unable to extend in the line out as I can’t recall the ball thrown to him???

The first lineout was thrown to him

Yep and two others to the middle and back!!

[SaintK]

Don't even bother chaps, he's just looking for a reaction

As mad as a box of frogs

[JM2K6]

Don't even bother chaps, he's just looking for a reaction

As mad as a box of frogs

Nah it's just some twisted effort to snipe back at people who he feels wronged by, i.e. everyone. Just looking to irritate.

[westport]

Don't even bother chaps, he's just looking for a reaction

I think his meds have worn off.

[Yr Alban]

Don't even bother chaps, he's just looking for a reaction

I think his meds have worn off.

You almost have to respect him. He’s got his narrative all worked out in advance, and he’s not going to let a little thing like the Lions actually winning the Test stop him from using it!

[Biffer]

Worrah Twatgland gave the Scots and the sky sports vanity English players a go, as he had to and was probably contracted to, but they need to go now.

So Liam Williams.
Josh Adam's.
Wyn Jones.
Falatau and Beard to start.

Gareth Davies and Navidi on the bench.

Josh Adam's what?

[Jock42]

Don't even bother chaps, he's just looking for a reaction

As mad as a box of frogs

I find him entertaining but in the same way I find that covid conspiracy shite entertaining.

[Uncle fester]

Worrah Twatgland gave the Scots and the sky sports vanity English players a go, as he had to and was probably contracted to, but they need to go now.

So Liam Williams.
Josh Adam's.
Wyn Jones.
Falatau and Beard to start.

Gareth Davies and Navidi on the bench.

Josh Adam's what?

Short back & sides (the adventures of)

[Big D]

Worrah Twatgland gave the Scots and the sky sports vanity English players a go, as he had to and was probably contracted to, but they need to go now.

So Liam Williams.
Josh Adam's.
Wyn Jones.
Falatau and Beard to start.

Gareth Davies and Navidi on the bench.

Josh Adam's what?

Reproductive organs work?

[dkm57]

Worrah Twatgland gave the Scots and the sky sports vanity English players a go, as he had to and was probably contracted to, but they need to go now.

So Liam Williams.
Josh Adam's.
Wyn Jones.
Falatau and Beard to start.

Gareth Davies and Navidi on the bench.

Best Windsor Davies voice "oh dear, how sad, never mind"

[Line6 HXFX]

So I am the only one who thinks rugby, and the Sky Sports Lions in particular is a professional product, and is all about money, money money marketing and populism.
A populist product of a populist sport that only wants to attract as many eyeballs as possible, above all else?

No one running this shit show really gives a shit if they win or lose, as long as there are people willing to pay a fortune to watch.
So they will pick popular and hyped to the hills English players (English market for rugby 50 odd million) over our boys (3 million) all day long.
Like the music industry (and all other industries) The Sky Sports Lions has very little to do with meritocracy and everything to do with Kerr'fucking''ching.

Most of the English players hype bubbles burst over the Six Nations when they couldn't even come fourth, but here they are, hype inexplicably intact and ready to go again.
The Sky Sports, DHL, Landrover Discovery, Vodaphone, Canterbury, London Pride, British Unionist Party and English Landed Gentry, Monarchy supporting "knight hood pleeeeze" Lions, looked distinctly average against a very average springbok team.
Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Gatland will just say enough is enough.

[notfatcat]

So I am the only one who thinks rugby, and the Sky Sports Lions in particular is a professional product, and is all about money, money money marketing and populism.
A populist product of a populist sport that only wants to attract as many eyeballs as possible, above all else?

No one running this shit show really gives a shit if they win or lose, as long as there are people willing to pay a fortune to watch.
So they will pick popular and hyped to the hills English players (English market for rugby 50 odd million) over our boys (3 million) all day long.
Like the music industry (and all other industries) The Sky Sports Lions has very little to do with meritocracy and everything to do with Kerr'fucking''ching.

Most of the English players hype bubbles burst over the Six Nations when they couldn't even come fourth, but here they are, hype inexplicably intact and ready to go again.
The Sky Sports, DHL, Landrover Discovery, Vodaphone, Canterbury, London Pride, British Unionist Party and English Landed Gentry, Monarchy supporting "knight hood pleeeeze" Lions, looked distinctly average against a very average springbok team.
Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Gatland will just say enough is enough.

I tried to read that but all I heard was this -

https://youtu.be/JhrD5SVo3OU?t=250

[SaintK]

I tried to read that but all I heard was this -

https://youtu.be/JhrD5SVo3OU?t=250

Quite

[Slick]

So I am the only one who thinks rugby, and the Sky Sports Lions in particular is a professional product, and is all about money, money money marketing and populism.
A populist product of a populist sport that only wants to attract as many eyeballs as possible, above all else?

No one running this shit show really gives a shit if they win or lose, as long as there are people willing to pay a fortune to watch.
So they will pick popular and hyped to the hills English players (English market for rugby 50 odd million) over our boys (3 million) all day long.
Like the music industry (and all other industries) The Sky Sports Lions has very little to do with meritocracy and everything to do with Kerr'fucking''ching.

Most of the English players hype bubbles burst over the Six Nations when they couldn't even come fourth, but here they are, hype inexplicably intact and ready to go again.
The Sky Sports, DHL, Landrover Discovery, Vodaphone, Canterbury, London Pride, British Unionist Party and English Landed Gentry, Monarchy supporting "knight hood pleeeeze" Lions, looked distinctly average against a very average springbok team.
Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Gatland will just say enough is enough.

i enjoy it

[shaggy]

So I am the only one who thinks rugby, and the Sky Sports Lions in particular is a professional product, and is all about money, money money marketing and populism.
A populist product of a populist sport that only wants to attract as many eyeballs as possible, above all else?

No one running this shit show really gives a shit if they win or lose, as long as there are people willing to pay a fortune to watch.
So they will pick popular and hyped to the hills English players (English market for rugby 50 odd million) over our boys (3 million) all day long.
Like the music industry (and all other industries) The Sky Sports Lions has very little to do with meritocracy and everything to do with Kerr'fucking''ching.

Most of the English players hype bubbles burst over the Six Nations when they couldn't even come fourth, but here they are, hype inexplicably intact and ready to go again.
The Sky Sports, DHL, Landrover Discovery, Vodaphone, Canterbury, London Pride, British Unionist Party and English Landed Gentry, Monarchy supporting "knight hood pleeeeze" Lions, looked distinctly average against a very average springbok team.
Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Gatland will just say enough is enough.

i enjoy it

Would be quite humorous if he put some real effort or imagination into it. Just reads like an AI/Bot developed by a teenager.

[Line6 HXFX]

Ahh you silly sausages are just upset that everytime you look upon the Sky Sports Lions you will think, yep actually old Refry is right, again.



Just remember.. it is just a product, an earner designed to maximise revenue. It is not even your earner, it is someone elses..just like toothpaste, or toilet tanks, are some elses earner.
Believe it or not, they are not all on the Colgate Toothpaste forums abusing eachother and at eachothers throats over which operator of the squirty squirty machine is the best, or attacking the guy who just points out that it just doesn't f'king matter.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Sky Sports Lions picked the team, not to win matches but to stoke lots of controversy and to get lots of attention and eyes on, and to get lots of Twitter and online reaction.

[dkm57]

Ahh you silly sausages are just upset that everytime you look upon the Sky Sports Lions you will think, yep actually old Refry is right, again.



Just remember.. it is just a product, an earner designed to maximise revenue. It is not even your earner, it is someone elses..just like toothpaste, or toilet tanks, are some elses earner.
Believe it or not, they are not all on the Colgate Toothpaste forums abusing eachother and at eachothers throats over which operator of the squirty squirty machine is the best, or attacking the guy who just points out that it just doesn't f'king matter.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Sky Sports Lions picked the team, not to win matches but to stoke lots of controversy and to get lots of attention and eyes on, and to get lots of Twitter and online reaction.

I don't usually bother but in your case I seriously think you should get help with whatever your issues are. You clearly need help.

[JM2K6]

I wish you people would listen to me. You're only making him worse.

[Jock42]

Squirty squirty machine

[ASMO]

Ahh you silly sausages are just upset that everytime you look upon the Sky Sports Lions you will think, yep actually old Refry is right, again.



Just remember.. it is just a product, an earner designed to maximise revenue. It is not even your earner, it is someone elses..just like toothpaste, or toilet tanks, are some elses earner.
Believe it or not, they are not all on the Colgate Toothpaste forums abusing eachother and at eachothers throats over which operator of the squirty squirty machine is the best, or attacking the guy who just points out that it just doesn't f'king matter.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Sky Sports Lions picked the team, not to win matches but to stoke lots of controversy and to get lots of attention and eyes on, and to get lots of Twitter and online reaction.

Do fuck off you boring troll, you have nothing positive to contribute about basically anything, you add nothing to this place, i suggest you piss off to https://nugwlad.freeforums.net/ where you can reside in parochial misery with others of your ilk.

[Raggs]

Rumours are Harris for Daly (like it), Mako for Sutherland, and Murray for Price. Then on the bench Faletau for Watson and Daly for Williams.

Daly is the perfect fit for the 23 shirt in fairness. Watson very unlucky I reckon. Same for Price.

[ASMO]

Rumours are Harris for Daly (like it), Mako for Sutherland, and Murray for Price. Then on the bench Faletau for Watson and Daly for Williams.

Daly is the perfect fit for the 23 shirt in fairness. Watson very unlucky I reckon. Same for Price.

Murray for Price is a horrible call, same with Faletau for Watson, no issue with Harris for Daly mind you.

[JM2K6]

Murray for Price is a sure sign we ran too much ball...

Mad call, probably going to be based on something weird like Murray defending Faf better or some shit. Mako starting could go badly wrong. Harris has earned it. Watson dropping out is a curious one, especially given Faletau's done the sum total of fuck all to deserve a squad place and Conan did fine in the first Test. Who the fuck plays 7 if Curry goes down?

[Saint]

Rumours are Harris for Daly (like it), Mako for Sutherland, and Murray for Price. Then on the bench Faletau for Watson and Daly for Williams.

Daly is the perfect fit for the 23 shirt in fairness. Watson very unlucky I reckon. Same for Price.

Confirmed by the BBC

[Big D]

Rumours are Harris for Daly (like it), Mako for Sutherland, and Murray for Price. Then on the bench Faletau for Watson and Daly for Williams.

Daly is the perfect fit for the 23 shirt in fairness. Watson very unlucky I reckon. Same for Price.

Murray for Price is a horrible call, same with Faletau for Watson, no issue with Harris for Daly mind you.

Yeah Murray for Price based on the tour thus far is mental.

Watson had little positive impact on Saturday so no complaints there and anyone for Daly is fair based on last week.

[tc27]

Rumours are Harris for Daly (like it), Mako for Sutherland, and Murray for Price. Then on the bench Faletau for Watson and Daly for Williams.

Daly is the perfect fit for the 23 shirt in fairness. Watson very unlucky I reckon. Same for Price.

Murray for Price is a horrible call, same with Faletau for Watson, no issue with Harris for Daly mind you.

Yeah Murray for Price based on the tour thus far is mental.

Watson had little positive impact on Saturday so no complaints there and anyone for Daly is fair based on last week.

Confirmed:

[SaintK]

Rumours are Harris for Daly (like it), Mako for Sutherland, and Murray for Price. Then on the bench Faletau for Watson and Daly for Williams.

Daly is the perfect fit for the 23 shirt in fairness. Watson very unlucky I reckon. Same for Price.

Murray for Price is a horrible call, same with Faletau for Watson, no issue with Harris for Daly mind you.

Yeah Murray for Price based on the tour thus far is mental.

Watson had little positive impact on Saturday so no complaints there and anyone for Daly is fair based on last week.

Really don't understand Murray starting for Price?
Other changes fine but a tad harsh on Watson

[JM2K6]

It's not just harsh on Watson, it means we end up with an 8 at 7 if Curry gets injured. Bosh fucking central I guess. Woo, this match is going to be even more cancerous than the first Test.

[Tichtheid]

It's not just harsh on Watson, it means we end up with an 8 at 7 if Curry gets injured. Bosh fucking central I guess. Woo, this match is going to be even more cancerous than the first Test.

Yup, it looks like the Lions will be playing tighter than a gnat's chuff, trying to squeak out a win, which is an odd way to go about it as they actually looked the better side when they did open things up a bit.

[Big D]

It's not just harsh on Watson, it means we end up with an 8 at 7 if Curry gets injured. Bosh fucking central I guess. Woo, this match is going to be even more cancerous than the first Test.

Faletau isn't exactly a bosh merchant to be fair.

Navidi would have made more sense but Faletau will be fine I suppose.

[Biffer]

[JM2K6]

It's not just harsh on Watson, it means we end up with an 8 at 7 if Curry gets injured. Bosh fucking central I guess. Woo, this match is going to be even more cancerous than the first Test.

Faletau isn't exactly a bosh merchant to be fair.

Navidi would have made more sense but Faletau will be fine I suppose.

Faletau at 7 is definitely more bosh than anything else, no? As you say, Navidi (who has shown more than Faletau) would've made sense from any other perspective, or keeping Watson.

I really hope Watson gets a shot in the 3rd Test.

[Big D]

It's not just harsh on Watson, it means we end up with an 8 at 7 if Curry gets injured. Bosh fucking central I guess. Woo, this match is going to be even more cancerous than the first Test.

Faletau isn't exactly a bosh merchant to be fair.

Navidi would have made more sense but Faletau will be fine I suppose.

Faletau at 7 is definitely more bosh than anything else, no? As you say, Navidi (who has shown more than Faletau) would've made sense from any other perspective, or keeping Watson.

I really hope Watson gets a shot in the 3rd Test.

Even packing down at 7 I'd expect Faletau to still play wider like he does when he is an 8 popping up in the outside channels. We wont be as competitive at the breakdown but in open play it would make little difference I think.

[GogLais]

Ahh you silly sausages are just upset that everytime you look upon the Sky Sports Lions you will think, yep actually old Refry is right, again.



Just remember.. it is just a product, an earner designed to maximise revenue. It is not even your earner, it is someone elses..just like toothpaste, or toilet tanks, are some elses earner.
Believe it or not, they are not all on the Colgate Toothpaste forums abusing eachother and at eachothers throats over which operator of the squirty squirty machine is the best, or attacking the guy who just points out that it just doesn't f'king matter.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Sky Sports Lions picked the team, not to win matches but to stoke lots of controversy and to get lots of attention and eyes on, and to get lots of Twitter and online reaction.

Do fuck off you boring troll, you have nothing positive to contribute about basically anything, you add nothing to this place, i suggest you piss off to https://nugwlad.freeforums.net/ where you can reside in parochial misery with others of your ilk.

Thanks, I wondered where it had got to.

[tc27]

Who specifically on the Sky commentary team is making Gatland drop Scottish players? Greenwood?

[Tichtheid]

Who specifically on the Sky commentary team is making Gatland drop Scottish players? Greenwood?

I'm not sure that was a serious comment from the twitterer

[ASMO]

Murray in is a terrible call, really terrible, cant understand them bringing Mako in as a starter, he was great off the bench, give Sutherland another shot, but wholly agree with Daly being dropped, should have been out of the 23 altogether. Liam must has shat in Gatlands tea to get dropped off the bench over Daly.

[Slick]

My only real complaint would be Price, seems a very odd and unfair decision with him being our best back on Saturday. At least he will get on.

I also think Sutherland is a silly decision although Mako was good when he came on. There is no way that Bok scrum is going to be as bad this weekend.

Mish I haven't got too many complaints about, although I still think he deserves to start instead of Curry, but a bit of a waste on the bench - with a nod to JMK's point about the balance.

[Raggs]

Good stat from Charlie Morgan: Mako Vunipola has conceded 14 scrum penalties in 44 Test appearances since RWC 2015, four of them in last two 6N games .

10 scrum penalties over 42 tests isn't exactly too shabby...