2021 Tokyo Olympics thread

[Slick]

Despite decades of research,; right wing politicians still don't get that if they spend a fraction of the money, they spend on policing, on clubs like these, that give teenagers accessible, enjoyable activities; they wouldn't need those extra coppers, to chase joy riders !

I remember the shite objections that people had, when people suggested adding bmx & skateboard facilities to parks

Largely anecdotal but the amount of anti-social behaviour from kids I see in England has radically reduced over the last 15 years, at the same time as a lot of the funding you've mentioned has been cut.
My cricket club used to have constant vandalism, up to and including the clubhouse being burned down. We've had nothing for five years or more now.

Pet theory is that the kids who used to do this spend their time gaming now.

No lead in petrol -> less violence in society.

Is that a real bit of research? Genuinely very interested

[ScarfaceClaw]

Caught the last 20 of the replay of Canada's victory over the Yank lasses in the football.

:clap:

Also, what's a "slutsignal"? :lol:

Full time in Swedish. Which took some googling and careful browser history management.

[Biffer]

Largely anecdotal but the amount of anti-social behaviour from kids I see in England has radically reduced over the last 15 years, at the same time as a lot of the funding you've mentioned has been cut.
My cricket club used to have constant vandalism, up to and including the clubhouse being burned down. We've had nothing for five years or more now.

Pet theory is that the kids who used to do this spend their time gaming now.

No lead in petrol -> less violence in society.

Is that a real bit of research? Genuinely very interested

Yeah, there's loads of stuff about it. It's not absolutely proven, but there's an astonishing correlation; in every country, the decrease in violent crime has happened about twenty years after lead was removed from petrol. If you stick lead petrol crime into Google you'll find loads of academic papers on it.

[Slick]

No lead in petrol -> less violence in society.

Is that a real bit of research? Genuinely very interested

Yeah, there's loads of stuff about it. It's not absolutely proven, but there's an astonishing correlation; in every country, the decrease in violent crime has happened about twenty years after lead was removed from petrol. If you stick lead petrol crime into Google you'll find loads of academic papers on it.

That’s amazingly brilliant, I will

[Uncle fester]

No lead in petrol -> less violence in society.

Is that a real bit of research? Genuinely very interested

Yeah, there's loads of stuff about it. It's not absolutely proven, but there's an astonishing correlation; in every country, the decrease in violent crime has happened about twenty years after lead was removed from petrol. If you stick lead petrol crime into Google you'll find loads of academic papers on it.

Interesting. Had assumed you were being funny.

[Torquemada 1420]

Yeah, there's loads of stuff about it. It's not absolutely proven, but there's an astonishing correlation; in every country, the decrease in violent crime has happened about twenty years after lead was removed from petrol. If you stick lead petrol crime into Google you'll find loads of academic papers on it.

So where does pikeys stealing the lead from church roofs fit in?

[Biffer]

Yeah, there's loads of stuff about it. It's not absolutely proven, but there's an astonishing correlation; in every country, the decrease in violent crime has happened about twenty years after lead was removed from petrol. If you stick lead petrol crime into Google you'll find loads of academic papers on it.

So where does pikeys stealing the lead from church roofs fit in?

Are their kids licking the lead after they’ve nicked it?

[Slick]

Yeah, there's loads of stuff about it. It's not absolutely proven, but there's an astonishing correlation; in every country, the decrease in violent crime has happened about twenty years after lead was removed from petrol. If you stick lead petrol crime into Google you'll find loads of academic papers on it.

So where does pikeys stealing the lead from church roofs fit in?

They’ve all overdosed

[Kiwias]

Lisa Carrington wins her third consecutive K1 200 gold medal in utterly dominant form.

[Gumboot]

Heavyweight David Nyika's up in 10 minutes, fighting the formidable Russian Guywiththereallylongname, who hasn't lost since 2017.

[Gumboot]

Ah well, bronze ain't too bad. Beaten to the punch more often than not by a very classy operator.

[Kiwias]

Ah well, bronze ain't too bad. Beaten to the punch more often than not by a very classy operator.

Bronze is pretty bloody impressive.

Lisa Carrington even more impressive!!!!

[westport]

Yorkshire have 2 golds and a silver with Peter Sutcliffe still to come in the hammer

[Gumboot]

Yorkshire have 2 golds and a silver with Peter Sutcliffe still to come in the hammer

[duke]

Team Pursuit as a contact sport, that’s a new one on me.

[Gumboot]

Absolute howler by the shotput judge - called Tom Walsh twice for foot fouls and overturned twice...almost costing him qualification.

[eldanielfire]

Team Pursuit as a contact sport, that’s a new one on me.

Certainly makes it more exciting.

[inactionman]

Team Pursuit as a contact sport, that’s a new one on me.

Certainly makes it more exciting.

Seen reports that Danish bloke ran into British bloke - assume, given that Danes progress, British bloke at fault?

Weird statement that Danish bloke didn't see British bloke, how on earth do you miss them?

[shaggy]

Team Pursuit as a contact sport, that’s a new one on me.

Certainly makes it more exciting.

Seen reports that Danish bloke ran into British bloke - assume, given that Danes progress, British bloke at fault?

Weird statement that Danish bloke didn't see British bloke, how on earth do you miss them?

It is pursuit race, not a catch and destroy race. Dane was at fault here, he should be looking and probably should have been DSQ but that would not look good.

[Saint]

Team Pursuit as a contact sport, that’s a new one on me.

Certainly makes it more exciting.

Seen reports that Danish bloke ran into British bloke - assume, given that Danes progress, British bloke at fault?

Weird statement that Danish bloke didn't see British bloke, how on earth do you miss them?

UCI effectively decided that as the Denmark team had caught GB (the catch wasn't actually complete under the rules), then the race was over before the crash actually happened. The general feeling at the track was the the GB guy had held his line as he's supposed to in order for the Danish team to pick the line to safely overtake.

Lots of controversy with the Denmark team in general, using equipment in the early rounds that was subsequently banned - the rules state that they should have been DQ'd for using unsanctioned equipment in the first place.

[ScarfaceClaw]

:lol:

Certainly makes it more exciting.

Seen reports that Danish bloke ran into British bloke - assume, given that Danes progress, British bloke at fault?

Weird statement that Danish bloke didn't see British bloke, how on earth do you miss them?

UCI effectively decided that as the Denmark team had caught GB (the catch wasn't actually complete under the rules), then the race was over before the crash actually happened. The general feeling at the track was the the GB guy had held his line as he's supposed to in order for the Danish team to pick the line to safely overtake.

Lots of controversy with the Denmark team in general, using equipment in the early rounds that was subsequently banned - the rules state that they should have been DQ'd for using unsanctioned equipment in the first place.

I’d have thought that the onus was on the British rider to get out of the way seeing as he was the rider who had dropped off? He can’t just piddle about on the racing line making the Danes lose time riding around him?

[Woddy]

Seen reports that Danish bloke ran into British bloke - assume, given that Danes progress, British bloke at fault?

Weird statement that Danish bloke didn't see British bloke, how on earth do you miss them?

UCI effectively decided that as the Denmark team had caught GB (the catch wasn't actually complete under the rules), then the race was over before the crash actually happened. The general feeling at the track was the the GB guy had held his line as he's supposed to in order for the Danish team to pick the line to safely overtake.

Lots of controversy with the Denmark team in general, using equipment in the early rounds that was subsequently banned - the rules state that they should have been DQ'd for using unsanctioned equipment in the first place.

I’d have thought that the onus was on the British rider to get out of the way seeing as he was the rider who had dropped off? He can’t just piddle about on the racing line making the Danes lose time riding around him?

He wasn't the 4th rider dropping off first, but the third rider who had simply lost the wheels of the front two, so we was still in the active team. Re the catch, the rules appear ambiguous as to whether the first or the third chasing rider completes the catch (which is strange given that it must happen often and need checking for time details) but as a Brit I'm happy that the Danes deserve to go through. [Other than for potential cheaty equipment in early rounds, which I've only just read about.]

[Niegs]

CBC just showed a snippet of our sport climbing guy being slow up the rock wall and falling off the bouldering wall.

Guessing these are timed events, so have no issue with them compared to more judged ones. But is it the gateway into having a full set of Gladiators events / Ninja Warrior / Takeshi's Castle? (... imagine the latter as an Olympic sport! )

[shaggy]

Seen reports that Danish bloke ran into British bloke - assume, given that Danes progress, British bloke at fault?

Weird statement that Danish bloke didn't see British bloke, how on earth do you miss them?

UCI effectively decided that as the Denmark team had caught GB (the catch wasn't actually complete under the rules), then the race was over before the crash actually happened. The general feeling at the track was the the GB guy had held his line as he's supposed to in order for the Danish team to pick the line to safely overtake.

Lots of controversy with the Denmark team in general, using equipment in the early rounds that was subsequently banned - the rules state that they should have been DQ'd for using unsanctioned equipment in the first place.

I’d have thought that the onus was on the British rider to get out of the way seeing as he was the rider who had dropped off? He can’t just piddle about on the racing line making the Danes lose time riding around him?

Nope. The pursuing team needs to overtake them safely, the rider being caught has no obligation to get out of their way. Total cop out by the officials.

[ScarfaceClaw]

UCI effectively decided that as the Denmark team had caught GB (the catch wasn't actually complete under the rules), then the race was over before the crash actually happened. The general feeling at the track was the the GB guy had held his line as he's supposed to in order for the Danish team to pick the line to safely overtake.

Lots of controversy with the Denmark team in general, using equipment in the early rounds that was subsequently banned - the rules state that they should have been DQ'd for using unsanctioned equipment in the first place.

I’d have thought that the onus was on the British rider to get out of the way seeing as he was the rider who had dropped off? He can’t just piddle about on the racing line making the Danes lose time riding around him?

He wasn't the 4th rider dropping off first, but the third rider who had simply lost the wheels of the front two, so we was still in the active team. Re the catch, the rules appear ambiguous as to whether the first or the third chasing rider completes the catch (which is strange given that it must happen often and need checking for time details) but as a Brit I'm happy that the Danes deserve to go through. [Other than for potential cheaty equipment in early rounds, which I've only just read about.]

Ahhh. I thought he was the fourth rider. Didn’t realise he was a lagging third.

[Saint]

UCI effectively decided that as the Denmark team had caught GB (the catch wasn't actually complete under the rules), then the race was over before the crash actually happened. The general feeling at the track was the the GB guy had held his line as he's supposed to in order for the Danish team to pick the line to safely overtake.

Lots of controversy with the Denmark team in general, using equipment in the early rounds that was subsequently banned - the rules state that they should have been DQ'd for using unsanctioned equipment in the first place.

I’d have thought that the onus was on the British rider to get out of the way seeing as he was the rider who had dropped off? He can’t just piddle about on the racing line making the Danes lose time riding around him?

Nope. The pursuing team needs to overtake them safely, the rider being caught has no obligation to get out of their way. Total cop out by the officials.

Yeah. It's more or less impossible for the rider being caught to see the pursuer and know when to get out of the way.

[charltom]

I would hope that the Dane who stood over Tanfield swearing at him, having knocked him down, at least has a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct. Especially if that's the second thing for which his team should have been, but wasn't, disqualified.

They are clearly excellent cyclists, the Danish pursuit team, but also cvnts on today's evidence.

Hilarious for me was when the BBC apologised for the Danish expletive... even though it was in Danish!

[ScarfaceClaw]

I wonder if he thought he was the fourth man and went off on one.

[charltom]

I wonder if he thought he was the fourth man and went off on one.

Doesn't really matter. He's mesnt to be am adult. What an example to set.

[Kiwias]

Lisa Carrington and Caitlin Regal both go straight through to the semi final in the K1 500 so can put their feet up for the rest of the day.

[Slick]

That 470 sailing was exciting!

[Kiwias]

That 470 sailing was exciting!

I'm buggered if I know how they don't keep banging into each other.

[Openside]

Lol. Unfortunately, that's the Olympics — not all medals are created equal.

I don't really enjoy the BMX competitions - but it's really good to see sports like that in the Olympics - they are very much working class sports - medals that every kid could aspire to - Much as I like the Rowing, it is very much a posh people sport - like sailing and equestrian.


Best moment of the Olympics for me, so far, was when Barshim and Tamberi were both awarded Gold in the High Jump - The Italian's reaction was just fantastic - a truly fantastic sporting moment.

Sailing isn’t posh, well the dinghy sailing anyway.

Okaaaay

[Openside]

UCI effectively decided that as the Denmark team had caught GB (the catch wasn't actually complete under the rules), then the race was over before the crash actually happened. The general feeling at the track was the the GB guy had held his line as he's supposed to in order for the Danish team to pick the line to safely overtake.

Lots of controversy with the Denmark team in general, using equipment in the early rounds that was subsequently banned - the rules state that they should have been DQ'd for using unsanctioned equipment in the first place.

I’d have thought that the onus was on the British rider to get out of the way seeing as he was the rider who had dropped off? He can’t just piddle about on the racing line making the Danes lose time riding around him?

Nope. The pursuing team needs to overtake them safely, the rider being caught has no obligation to get out of their way. Total cop out by the officials.

Actually they don't need to overtake them at all as soon as they are within 1m of the wheel the contest is over...

[Slick]

That 470 sailing was exciting!

I'm buggered if I know how they don't keep banging into each other.

Yes, they seem to be very courteous towards each other but I expect the judges come down on them hard if they are not.

[Openside]

That 470 sailing was exciting!

I'm buggered if I know how they don't keep banging into each other.

Yes, they seem to be very courteous towards each other but I expect the judges come down on them hard if they are not.

They are very aware who has right of way and if they transgress they have to sail a 720 degree turn so there is big incentive to play fair.

[Slick]

I'm buggered if I know how they don't keep banging into each other.

Yes, they seem to be very courteous towards each other but I expect the judges come down on them hard if they are not.

They are very aware who has right of way and if they transgress they have to sail a 720 degree turn so there is big incentive to play fair.

Ahh! yes, that would do it.

[Lobby]

I would hope that the Dane who stood over Tanfield swearing at him, having knocked him down, at least has a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct. Especially if that's the second thing for which his team should have been, but wasn't, disqualified.

They are clearly excellent cyclists, the Danish pursuit team, but also cvnts on today's evidence.

Hilarious for me was when the BBC apologised for the Danish expletive... even though it was in Danish!

Well done the Italians for beating them in the final.

Some weird decisions from the judges in the velodrome. Denmark let off for two much more serious infringements that should really have seen them DQd, then Katy Marchant DQd after winning her heat this morning for coming down on the wheel a fraction early.

[Openside]

I would hope that the Dane who stood over Tanfield swearing at him, having knocked him down, at least has a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct. Especially if that's the second thing for which his team should have been, but wasn't, disqualified.

They are clearly excellent cyclists, the Danish pursuit team, but also cvnts on today's evidence.

Hilarious for me was when the BBC apologised for the Danish expletive... even though it was in Danish!

Well done the Italians for beating them in the final.

Some weird decisions from the judges in the velodrome. Denmark let off for two much more serious infringements that should really have seen them DQd, then Katy Marchant DQd after winning her heat this morning for coming down on the wheel a fraction early.

The Danish shouldn't have been DQ'd as as soon as they were 1M away the contest was over however the shitty way the Dane behaved post crash makes me very happy that they lost

[inactionman]

That 470 sailing was exciting!

I'm buggered if I know how they don't keep banging into each other.

Yes, they seem to be very courteous towards each other but I expect the judges come down on them hard if they are not.

Exploiting their position to force their opponent to manoeuvre is a key part of racing - there are general sailing rules about who is the stand-on (the vessel who doesn't need to shift) and the give way. These are mostly to do with upwind/downwind and who is on port or starboard tack, some a bit arbitrary. Getting your opponent to have to make an undesirable manoeuvre is a pretty handy way to steal a march.

In the London Olympics Ben Ainslie just spent his last race blocking off his gold medal contender, forcing them to continually give way.

I've had a go at a few regattas and it's a further complication I really struggled with, I just tended to get the hell out of everyone else's way.