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My first (cynical) impulse on this one was this is just opportunism because the climate today would certainly look favourably on such a lawsuit and of course who wouldn't want upwards of £1 million?
However, when you think about it a little deeper its pretty complex. We've probably all looked at that album cover dozens of times without thinking too much about it but wtf is it all about? A naked baby underwater in a pool with a dollar. What is it supposed to signify? Its pretty indecent and a fully grown adult on an album cover naked would be considered wrong so why is a baby any different? Especially since they cannot have given any consent. Is it pornagraphic? It is exploitative?
On a psychological level its got to feel pretty uncomfortable knowing that you are immortalised on an album cover but you probably don't want to share that with too many people because its not like they have just seen your cute face, they've seen your dick to boot.
Then you look at the broader picture about how many famous kids from Hollywood become emotional wrecks as adults because a) they find it hard to cope with the fame and b) they feel or know they were exploited by the adults in their life but then were discarded when their 15 minutes of fame were over. There's definitely a lot to unpack imo.
Nirvana album cover baby sues band
and including Kurt Cobain's estateSaintK wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:37 pm The real reason?Mr Elden is asking for damages of at least $150,000 (£109,000) from each of the 15 defendants, including surviving band members Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic and photographer Kirk Weddle.
I was reading about this earlier and he seems to have loved it and loathed it at different times in his life.
Apparently his parents got battered at a party and thought it was a fun but didn’t realise it was going on the front of a record.
Apparently his parents got battered at a party and thought it was a fun but didn’t realise it was going on the front of a record.
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He might have more credibility if he hadn’t recreated the image several times to celebrate the album’s anniversaries. And just six years ago he said:Calculon wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:40 pm If he didn't spend his life telling everyone he was THAT baby, and trying to make money off it, hardly anyone would care or know
"It's always been a positive thing and opened doors for me, I'm 23 now and an artist, and this story gave me an opportunity to work with Shepard Fairey for five years, which was an awesome experience. He is a huge music connoisseur: when he heard I was the Nirvana baby, he thought that was really cool."
The best result I can see for him realistically is the courts finding in his favour in terms of there being no talent release form but awarding him a token amount of money.
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"Damages of $1"notfatcat wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:39 pm The best result I can see for him realistically is the courts finding in his favour in terms of there being no talent release form but awarding him a token amount of money.
Comes across as very opportunistic, based on his previous comments.
But does raise interesting questions about consent. Not exactly the same, but I grew uncomfortable with my wife putting up photos of my kids on Facebook as you have no idea what creeps are able to access them and kids also aren't old enough to understand the implications of their photos being online and their ability to consent.
But does raise interesting questions about consent. Not exactly the same, but I grew uncomfortable with my wife putting up photos of my kids on Facebook as you have no idea what creeps are able to access them and kids also aren't old enough to understand the implications of their photos being online and their ability to consent.
FWIW, my opinion on vinyl.
It's inconvenient - you can only listen to the records in a certain place and you have to change sides after 20 minutes or so, you absolutely cannot listen to vinyl on the train or bus or in a cafe.
You have to set aside time and have a space to listen to the music, as opposed to having some racket going on in your headphones as you try to go through your day to day.
Some say the sound quality is inferior to digital, but if you have a good system and a clean record, this is bollocks.
The album artwork is non-existent in spotify, is tiny in a CD, is a reason to buy a 12 inch vinyl album or single, just for the art, yes we did that.
For me vinyl represents a slowing down, getting back to taking time to listening to less music, but actually listening, as opposed to having a background noise going on all the time
oh and buying a vinyl album supports the artist whose work you are enjoying, as does buying a CD
100% agree.Tichtheid wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:54 pm
FWIW, my opinion on vinyl.
It's inconvenient - you can only listen to the records in a certain place and you have to change sides after 20 minutes or so, you absolutely cannot listen to vinyl on the train or bus or in a cafe.
You have to set aside time and have a space to listen to the music, as opposed to having some racket going on in your headphones as you try to go through your day to day.
Some say the sound quality is inferior to digital, but if you have a good system and a clean record, this is bollocks.
The album artwork is non-existent in spotify, is tiny in a CD, is a reason to buy a 12 inch vinyl album or single, just for the art, yes we did that.
For me vinyl represents a slowing down, getting back to taking time to listening to less music, but actually listening, as opposed to having a background noise going on all the time
oh and buying a vinyl album supports the artist whose work you are enjoying, as does buying a CD
I got a record player a couple of years back and the intention was always to not use it that much, but when I did it was door shut and my time.
I mostly buy 50’s - 70’s stuff from 2nd hand shops, so can’t claim to be supporting artists, because I think that’s how that music is meant to be listened to, rightly or wrongly.
Most of the stuff I have is things like the Stones and Dylan but also some of the old opera recordings where you get the inserts with the whole story, lyrics, translations etc and love listening and studying them.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Jethro is Globus and I claim Mimosa from his wife's car boot sale.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Sob.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:18 amJethro is Globus and I claim Mimosa from his wife's car boot sale.
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Agreed. It's the whole ceremony of it, and I'd also say that I've enjoyed many happy evenings just browsing and essentially DJing with the record collection with the missus and friends, although I've only a few records here in Edinburgh. It's not quite the same with Tidal.Tichtheid wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:54 pm
FWIW, my opinion on vinyl.
It's inconvenient - you can only listen to the records in a certain place and you have to change sides after 20 minutes or so, you absolutely cannot listen to vinyl on the train or bus or in a cafe.
You have to set aside time and have a space to listen to the music, as opposed to having some racket going on in your headphones as you try to go through your day to day.
Some say the sound quality is inferior to digital, but if you have a good system and a clean record, this is bollocks.
The album artwork is non-existent in spotify, is tiny in a CD, is a reason to buy a 12 inch vinyl album or single, just for the art, yes we did that.
For me vinyl represents a slowing down, getting back to taking time to listening to less music, but actually listening, as opposed to having a background noise going on all the time
oh and buying a vinyl album supports the artist whose work you are enjoying, as does buying a CD
