
Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.
WTF is wrong with people?
Glaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.
Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.
WTF is wrong with people?
You can get a tent from Decathlon for 30/40 quid. That's probably a small fraction of what you would spend on beer etc there over the weekend when a can of Carlsberg costs more than a fiver.Tichtheid wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:08 amGlaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.
Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.
WTF is wrong with people?
I get the feeling that young people are entitled arseholes, I could never imagine in a million years that a tent was a disposable purchase, there was no way I could afford to just leave a tent at a festival site
We do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc
This!Tichtheid wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:08 amGlaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.
Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.
WTF is wrong with people?
I get the feeling that young people are entitled arseholes, I could never imagine in a million years that a tent was a disposable purchase, there was no way I could afford to just leave a tent at a festival site
Quite it is an anti-social problem simple as that. Most of us wouldn't dream of opening the car window and depositing the empty KFC bucket on the side of the road. Unfortunately there is a sizeable minority that think they are paying for road sweepers they may as well use them.Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:38 am Yes would say the idea that Britain's litter problem is a unique phenomenon to young people is patent rubbish. Ever seen beaches after family days out/sports grounds etc?
Nothing has changed. I lived in Reading in the early 1970's and worked at the festival for a number of years.Glaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.
Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.
WTF is wrong with people?
It's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 amWe do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc
It's a thing you need to learn as a kid, from parents and reinforced at school. This doesn't happen in the UK so people litter.
this is not simply an english problem and of course the education it starts at homePaddington Bear wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:27 amIt's a thing you need to learn as a kid, from parents and reinforced at school. This doesn't happen in the UK so people litter.
My kids did at an early age and I'm pleased to see my 6 year old grandaughter starting to do the same.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 amIt's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 amWe do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc
My kids wouldn't dream of littering and on most walks down to the shops etc will go and pick up litter and put it in bins without being asked. It needs to be drummed in at schools.
Agree with this.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 amIt's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 amWe do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc
My kids wouldn't dream of littering and on most walks down to the shops etc will go and pick up litter and put it in bins without being asked. It needs to be drummed in at schools.
Ideally, it starts at home, but you can't rely on that. Unfortunately, teaching taught me that many parents are more awful than I'd previously imagined at and have no intention of raising even somewhat decent human beings and that the school can only do so much by way of correction since parents will actively undermine everything as soon as the child is back at home. One of many dispiriting experiences was giving a year 9 detention after overhearing him use 'darkies' and setting a research task as to why it's an unacceptable term which led to a complaint being made against me by the parents because it wasn't my fucking job to try and parent their kid apparently. I never quite mustered the nerve to respond with 'Someone bloody well needs to', he was a generally feral little shitbag, racist language was just the rotting cherry on top.Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:27 amIt's a thing you need to learn as a kid, from parents and reinforced at school. This doesn't happen in the UK so people litter.
The same thing happens at the shittier Irish festivals too. I remember Oxegen one year where after trudging around in calf deep mud and getting rained on for the whole weekend (and spraining my ankle on day 1) I got woken up by a deodorant can exploding after being thrown into the tent right behind mine which had been set on fire. The shrapnel left holes in my tent.assfly wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:24 am I remember the last time I was at Reading Festival, 2010 I think.
On the Sunday night after the final band had played and everyone headed back to the campsites, people started setting fire to tents. There was blaze near us that was at least a couple of stories high. There was fear and panic everywhere, we nearly just decided to make a run for it and try and find out way back to our house at 2am. There were fights breaking out everywhere as people were grabbing anything they could to throw it into the fire.
It was a genuinely terrifying experience, the last time I'll do a festival of that size again.
I'm the same, drives me insane and my aggressive big prick side storms to the surface. My wife actually groans when she realises I have seen some scumbag throw away litter as she knows what is coming as I just can't help confronting them.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 amIt's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 amWe do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc
My kids wouldn't dream of littering and on most walks down to the shops etc will go and pick up litter and put it in bins without being asked. It needs to be drummed in at schools.