Such a disappointing player. So enormous yet plays so tentatively. Plus he's knackered after about 10 minutes.Kiwias wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:53 am I hesitate to suggest that this is PT's last chance as he seems to be a permanent resident in the Last Chance Saloon.
This.Kiwias wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:42 amFozz is more likely to pick that back row but I just want to see Savea in his rightful position.Gumboot wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:39 am This would be mine:
15. Jordie
14. Reece
13. ALB (Rieko if he's out)
12. Havili
11. Rieko (Bridge if ALB's out)
10. Beauden
9. Perenara
8. Savea (c)
7. Papalii
6. Akira
5. Scooter
4. BBBR
3. Laulala
2. Taylor
1. Moody
16. Taukei'aho, 17. Karl, 18. Ofa, 19. Vaa'i, 20. Jacobson, 21. Weber, 22. DMac, 23. Jordan
Just bumping the actual team.Ymx wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:57 amThat’s virtually the team you or another picked wasn’t it? With the ALB out option.Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:39 am 1. Joe Moody (52 caps)
2. Codie Taylor (62)
3. Nepo Laulala (35)
4. Brodie Retallick (87)
5. Scott Barrett (46)
6. Akira Ioane (8)
7. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
8. Luke Jacobson (9)
9. TJ Perenara (73)
10. Beauden Barrett (96)
11. George Bridge (15)
12. David Havili (9)
13. Rieko Ioane (42)
14. Will Jordan (8)
15. Jordie Barrett (30)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (6), 17. Karl Tu’inukuafe (22), 18. Ofa Tuungafasi (40), 19. Patrick Tuipulotu (39), 20. Ethan Blackadder (5), 21. Brad Weber (12), 22. Damian McKenzie (35), 23. Quinn Tupaea (3)
Both prefer playing out wide rather than in close. One is ok in a back row, but not two.Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:33 amI rate Jacobson highly and like Ardie being back at openside. Thought Papalii was carrying a niggle, but not sure. What's the problem with Ardie and Akira in the same mix?Certain Navigator wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:28 amIs the loose forward balance really any better than before? Replacing Papalii with Jacobson is like-for-like. The problem of having both Savea and Ioane in the same mix persists.Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:43 am Very happy that Jacobson has the start and Ardie's back in his best position. Not sure how much of that's down to Papalii's injury, but that's a well balanced backrow for mine.
Interesting that Tupaea's on the bench in ALB's absence, but I guess they already have plenty of guys who can play wing so Reece is surplus to requirements.
True, and barely a year ago Cullen Grace and Caleb Clarke were the big movers.Monkey Magic wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:52 am 6 months ago seeing that all blacks team would have me worried, but the form of Havili, both ioanes and Jordie B makes that look like a very strong team.
Disappointed that Papalii is injured... Jacobson is more of a ball player, Papalii thrives in the tighter exchanges... but these are the sort of games where Dalton would be in his element. I was hoping to see if his heavy tackling and carrying ability close to rucks would flourish against the Boks... giving the forwards more of a platform, especially at the breakdown. Oh well, maybe next week if he gets over his hamstring.....Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:33 amI rate Jacobson highly and like Ardie being back at openside. Thought Papalii was carrying a niggle, but not sure. What's the problem with Ardie and Akira in the same mix?Certain Navigator wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:28 amIs the loose forward balance really any better than before? Replacing Papalii with Jacobson is like-for-like. The problem of having both Savea and Ioane in the same mix persists.Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:43 am Very happy that Jacobson has the start and Ardie's back in his best position. Not sure how much of that's down to Papalii's injury, but that's a well balanced backrow for mine.
Interesting that Tupaea's on the bench in ALB's absence, but I guess they already have plenty of guys who can play wing so Reece is surplus to requirements.
Both quality players. I think Jacobson plays the tight game equally well, and his carrying has been a real positive.Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:17 amDisappointed that Papalii is injured... Jacobson is more of a ball player, Papalii thrives in the tighter exchanges... but these are the sort of games where Dalton would be in his element. I was hoping to see if his heavy tackling and carrying ability close to rucks would flourish against the Boks... giving the forwards more of a platform, especially at the breakdown. Oh well, maybe next week if he gets over his hamstring.....
Yeah be interesting. If he can carry and compete well against a big SAn pack then no need for me to worry about Papalii... it's where Frizzell has been found wanting... and we haven't really had anyone do the Kaino job, since.. Kaino... was hoping Papalii was that man.. though doing it as a 7... as Akira though playing well, is different again. Plays like an 8.. even though a six...Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:36 amBoth quality players. I think Jacobson plays the tight game equally well, and his carrying has been a real positive.Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:17 amDisappointed that Papalii is injured... Jacobson is more of a ball player, Papalii thrives in the tighter exchanges... but these are the sort of games where Dalton would be in his element. I was hoping to see if his heavy tackling and carrying ability close to rucks would flourish against the Boks... giving the forwards more of a platform, especially at the breakdown. Oh well, maybe next week if he gets over his hamstring.....
So irritating that he is making the All Blacks look pretty good recently... Goddamnit!Kiwias wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:23 am The situation regarding our back row has changed dramatically from a couple of months ago, when no one seemed to have any idea of our best combination and no one outside Savea had any sort of form.
Now everyone is playing pretty well and we are seeing players settling into positions and through that building better combinations.
I don’t intend to sound as if I am praising Fozz but ………..
Like a bulldozer through kindling... we will splinter and succumb.... only soulless black cloth shall remain...FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:24 am Vokkit! Tired of all the doom and gloom. Time to smash these glamour boy running rugby All Blacks into second place. Roll those mauls and launch those box kicks! Bring it on! What more glorious way to assert our dominance than winning test no. 100. Go Bokke!
Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:56 amLike a bulldozer through kindling... we will splinter and succumb.... only soulless black cloth shall remain...FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:24 am Vokkit! Tired of all the doom and gloom. Time to smash these glamour boy running rugby All Blacks into second place. Roll those mauls and launch those box kicks! Bring it on! What more glorious way to assert our dominance than winning test no. 100. Go Bokke!
I'll say it again... the games where the Boks have beaten the All Blacks have been mostly based on catching them by surprise playing dynamic rugby... not many 9-6 suffocations...
To be decided by a drop kick or a rolling maul.Or disputed scrum penalty...FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:00 pmGrandpa wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:56 amLike a bulldozer through kindling... we will splinter and succumb.... only soulless black cloth shall remain...FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:24 am Vokkit! Tired of all the doom and gloom. Time to smash these glamour boy running rugby All Blacks into second place. Roll those mauls and launch those box kicks! Bring it on! What more glorious way to assert our dominance than winning test no. 100. Go Bokke!
I'll say it again... the games where the Boks have beaten the All Blacks have been mostly based on catching them by surprise playing dynamic rugby... not many 9-6 suffocations...
Interestingly, barring injuries, McKenzie may not even be on the bench next week given that Mo'unga is scheduled to return.OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:18 pm Any team with rugby freak DMac on the bench must be very strong.
Hope he off load to a Springbok broer!
He's a tackle machine.... I don't remember a test match this year where someone missed a load of crucial tackles? That implies we almost lost?Ymx wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:43 am Who was our newby back rower who missed a bunch of crucial tackles in a test match. For some reason I thought it was Papalii.
Yeah, he missed a couple in the second Bled at Eden Park. Mentioned it at the time:Ymx wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:43 am Who was our newby back rower who missed a bunch of crucial tackles in a test match. For some reason I thought it was Papalii.
Gumboot wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:17 am I'm still not sure what to make of Papalii. He does so much right, covering acres of ground at a good clip and making tons of tackles. BUT...he missed two important tackles in the first half. Koroibete waltzed right past him and deep into our 22 in the lead-up to Kellaway's early try, then he missed McDermott under our posts right on half time - had him covered but barely laid a finger on him.
Those were tackles an All Blacks openside should not miss.
Bugger.All Blacks No 8 Luke Jacobson has been scratched from tonight’s historic test against South Africa in Townsville due to a stomach bug.
His withdrawal has forced coach Ian Foster to move captain Ardie Savea from openside flanker to No 8, and Ethan Blackadder from the pine into the No 7 role.
Hoskins Sotutu moves on to the bench...
Blackadder at 7. Hmmmmmmm. I know he has the work rate and I guess that was the only choice.Gumboot wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:43 amBugger.All Blacks No 8 Luke Jacobson has been scratched from tonight’s historic test against South Africa in Townsville due to a stomach bug.
His withdrawal has forced coach Ian Foster to move captain Ardie Savea from openside flanker to No 8, and Ethan Blackadder from the pine into the No 7 role.
Hoskins Sotutu moves on to the bench...
Wasn't exactly a resounding success last time he started at openside, but I guess his confidence will be sky high after his top performance last week. I was really looking forward to seeing that original starting backrow, though. Jacobson's had more than his share of shit luck. Shame, I rate him very highly.Kiwias wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:07 amBlackadder at 7. Hmmmmmmm. I know he has the work rate and I guess that was the only choice.
Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:52 am We are so busy at work, I am going to miss the Test.
I hope that it is a good game, not spoiled by the Ref or cards.
May the best team win, as long as it is The Springboks!
Bok BeVok!
Gumboot wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:19 amWasn't exactly a resounding success last time he started at openside, but I guess his confidence will be sky high after his top performance last week. I was really looking forward to seeing that original starting backrow, though. Jacobson's had more than his share of shit luck. Shame, I rate him very highly.Kiwias wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:07 amBlackadder at 7. Hmmmmmmm. I know he has the work rate and I guess that was the only choice.
Or bring Sotutu straight into 8 and leave ardie and Akira where they are. Although that does seem to leave us short of a grafted in the trioKiwias wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:34 amGumboot wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:19 amWasn't exactly a resounding success last time he started at openside, but I guess his confidence will be sky high after his top performance last week. I was really looking forward to seeing that original starting backrow, though. Jacobson's had more than his share of shit luck. Shame, I rate him very highly.Kiwias wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:07 amBlackadder at 7. Hmmmmmmm. I know he has the work rate and I guess that was the only choice.
I would have preferred to see Akira moved to 8 and Blackadder into 6.
