Cricket: T20 World Cup
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Snigger! The physio/medic's manbun is cringe.
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Durban lad Conway showing his South African fielding genes.
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He’s even cutting it up for them so it’s easier to tuck in.
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Pakistan physio.
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Pakistan look the business
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Black Caps at least show some fight against the hosts.
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I feel really shit for Temba Bavuma here. He's responded as well as he could here. QDK is sounding more and more like a poes. I still don't agree with the directive but QDK has shat the bed here, a selfish move. Time for him to FIFO. With our current environment, across every part of our society, the last thing we need is another bone to pick and cause division.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:09 pm Oh boy - I'm really not going to enjoy this match with Pakistan.
Can't help but feel their win over India is going to have them 100 feet high with confidence. Ferguson out for the whole tournament (he is the new Shane Bond injury wise) and as a team we seem to be well undercooked.
Fingers crossed though.

Best bowling attack in the comp. Pity the batting is flakier than Simon Weston's scalp.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/202 ... fusing-do/
Things that ought to be a matter of conscience - such as how one expresses one's disapproval of racial prejudice - are now not treated as such by some cricket boards. And so the South African board has felt it right to make it mandatory for its players to 'take the knee' before matches in a forced display of virtue signalling about race: and Quinton de Kock, in exercising his absolute right not to have his conscience dictated to....
In fact, it does the reverse.It is not a way to treat serious adults. And he may well also be sophisticated enough to realise that such a gesture, especially when forced and thus made insincerely, assists in no way in the elimination of racism from cricket, sport in general or the wider world.
Of course it does. And forcing anyone to do it is dehumanizing which ironically is what racism is.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:39 pm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/202 ... fusing-do/
Things that ought to be a matter of conscience - such as how one expresses one's disapproval of racial prejudice - are now not treated as such by some cricket boards. And so the South African board has felt it right to make it mandatory for its players to 'take the knee' before matches in a forced display of virtue signalling about race: and Quinton de Kock, in exercising his absolute right not to have his conscience dictated to....In fact, it does the reverse.It is not a way to treat serious adults. And he may well also be sophisticated enough to realise that such a gesture, especially when forced and thus made insincerely, assists in no way in the elimination of racism from cricket, sport in general or the wider world.
Shirley de Kock was well aware of CSA's edict before this tournament began, yet Bavuma has implied that his move took everyone by surprise. If that's the case it was a dick move and I hope CSA do the right thing and send de Kock's sorry arse home.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pmA white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
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Agreed. Dude earns 5 bar in club salary for 10 weeks in the IPL. This move will only endear him to a whole heap of Indian fans who don't seem to happy with the kneeling idea either He can afford to be a cock.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pm A white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
Trouble is SA cricket can't afford this. They're already in deep dwang and this isn't going to help. Sponsors don't like this kind of thing.
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About 20 minutes afterwards, there was a replay, and the commentator too expressed surprise that Williamson hadn't dived. He then suggested it was self-preservation from the throw that had led to that most ungainly of reaches for the crease.convoluted wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:05 pm A sprawling dive might have been a better option than the baseball slide. 90-4
My thought to that was it's not for us to critique anyone protecting themselves.
But a moment ago, reading the morning paper printed and delivered just prior to the game commencing, the byline reads 'Williamson trying to nurse aching elbow through heavy schedule for Black Caps'. So it would have been his elbow he was shielding by not diving.
Fme Sandy, all trolling aside, you really have no clueSandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pm A white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
It was issued the night before the game. They woke up to it.Gumboot wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:53 pmShirley de Kock was well aware of CSA's edict before this tournament began, yet Bavuma has implied that his move took everyone by surprise. If that's the case it was a dick move and I hope CSA do the right thing and send de Kock's sorry arse home.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pmA white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
Issued 5 hours before the match and since qdk was well known for not taking the knee it's somewhat difficult to believe it took everyone by surpriseGumboot wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:53 pmShirley de Kock was well aware of CSA's edict before this tournament began, yet Bavuma has implied that his move took everyone by surprise. If that's the case it was a dick move and I hope CSA do the right thing and send de Kock's sorry arse home.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pmA white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
"The instruction from the board came this (Tuesday) morning, and a meeting was convened. That message was passed on to us, and then, before getting on the bus to travel to Dubai, that message was passed on to the players," he said.
"I think the trip was about an hour and a half to two hours. On that trip, I guess that's where Quinton made his decision. I found out as the captain when we got to the changeroom.
"I think the trip was about an hour and a half to two hours. On that trip, I guess that's where Quinton made his decision. I found out as the captain when we got to the changeroom.
Ah right, I stand corrected.sorCrer wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:53 pmIt was issued the night before the game. They woke up to it.Gumboot wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:53 pmShirley de Kock was well aware of CSA's edict before this tournament began, yet Bavuma has implied that his move took everyone by surprise. If that's the case it was a dick move and I hope CSA do the right thing and send de Kock's sorry arse home.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pmA white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
What exactly is de Kock's objection to taking a knee?
Maybe it conjures up bad memories of playing the sweep shot badly?Gumboot wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:20 pmAh right, I stand corrected.sorCrer wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:53 pmIt was issued the night before the game. They woke up to it.Gumboot wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:53 pm
Shirley de Kock was well aware of CSA's edict before this tournament began, yet Bavuma has implied that his move took everyone by surprise. If that's the case it was a dick move and I hope CSA do the right thing and send de Kock's sorry arse home.
What exactly is de Kock's objection to taking a knee?
Please explain it to me.sorCrer wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:51 pmFme Sandy, all trolling aside, you really have no clueSandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pm A white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
Grandpa wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:29 pmMaybe it conjures up bad memories of playing the sweep shot badly?

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^^^ re. last few pages: a victory for the Good Guys with de Kock refusing to submit to woke dictates ... unfortunately followed up almost simultaneously with decree that henceforth, from this day onward, in the game of cricket the term 'batsman' will be instantly obliterated from usage and be replaced with the gender-neutral 'batter'.
"Conway will be battering at 5 instead of opening"
"Conway will be battering at 5 instead of opening"
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And surely of far greater general concern and of more burning urgency than De Kock's stance is the current concern that lesbians have with transexuals pressuring them to agree to sex. Would lesbian refusal be grounds for the charge of transphobia to be levelled against them?
As opposed to him "batsmanning at 5"?convoluted wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:36 am ^^^ re. last few pages: a victory for the Good Guys with de Kock refusing to submit to woke dictates ... unfortunately followed up almost simultaneously with decree that henceforth, from this day onward, in the game of cricket the term 'batsman' will be instantly obliterated from usage and be replaced with the gender-neutral 'batter'.
"Conway will be battering at 5 instead of opening"
It's called self respect. To quote what he said in June: "It’s everyone’s decision; no-one’s forced to do anything, not in life. That’s the way I see things."Sandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:30 pmPlease explain it to me.sorCrer wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:51 pmFme Sandy, all trolling aside, you really have no clueSandstorm wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pm A white guy taking a knee for 5 secs before a cricket match is probably one of the four easiest and least affecting things he’s ever been asked to do.
De Kok is a cock.
SA Journalist - Lungani Zama
"Without being biased on this, being a black South African and Quinton de Kock being a white South African, I’ve spent many a time with him on tour, if you ask me point blank if he’s a racist or not? Absolutely not."
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"Without being biased on this, being a black South African and Quinton de Kock being a white South African, I’ve spent many a time with him on tour, if you ask me point blank if he’s a racist or not? Absolutely not."
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"no-one's forced to do anything in life"sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:06 amIt's called self respect. To quote what he said in June: "It’s everyone’s decision; no-one’s forced to do anything, not in life. That’s the way I see things."
Gimme a break. What a load of self-serving adolescent horseshit.
Possibly but you don't get to make that decision for someone else.Gumboot wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:27 am"no-one's forced to do anything in life"sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:06 amIt's called self respect. To quote what he said in June: "It’s everyone’s decision; no-one’s forced to do anything, not in life. That’s the way I see things."
Gimme a break. What a load of self-serving adolescent horseshit.
Is that your definition of self respect?sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:30 amPossibly but you don't get to make that decision for someone else.Gumboot wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:27 am"no-one's forced to do anything in life"sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:06 amIt's called self respect. To quote what he said in June: "It’s everyone’s decision; no-one’s forced to do anything, not in life. That’s the way I see things."
Gimme a break. What a load of self-serving adolescent horseshit.
In this case, sticking to a principle (not kneeling) that you have previously decided you will not be forced to do. Noting that I wouldn't either.
Fair enough. I hate being forced to stand for the national anthem. Got growled at a lot in cinemas as a kid when it was played before Saturday matinees. I'm an atheist so the "God defend New Zealand" bit's always been a bridge too far.sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:46 amIn this case, sticking to a principle (not kneeling) that you have previously decided you will not be forced to do. Noting that I wouldn't either.
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Like Langeveld this is not going to end well for QdK.
He will need to make a national appology to the minister of sport like Boucher to play cricket again.
He will need to make a national appology to the minister of sport like Boucher to play cricket again.
He is quite an introverted person. May as well, retire from national cricket and just play IPL.OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:46 am Like Langeveld this is not going to end well for QdK.
He will need to make a national appology to the minister of sport like Boucher to play cricket again.
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It is amazing how QdK could use his profile and position in the Proteas team to make Save the Rhino gestures on the tour to West Indies earlier this year, but could not come together with his team to condemn racism by making a gesture before a game.