Saffers

[FalseBayFC]

A bit of sleuthing reveals that Ceres is the cheapest boxed fruit juice on Amazon.ca. My other theory was that the props master was a South African looking to put an Easter egg type secret signature into the movie. But IMDB reveals that the prop master is Brian Patrick, a born and bred Canadian. Sadly reality is generally prosaic.

[OomStruisbaai]

Ceres is available on Amazon.ca

PepsiCo bought Pioneer Foods. Now to teach them to eat Bovril, ProNutro, Sasko flour. I have Bokomo under pants with self raising flour print in front.

[FalseBayFC]

Some cheerful news for Saffers. Dam levels up 17% year on year nationally. Even the Karoo had some good rains this last week.
https://sawx.co.za/state-of-dams/

Western Cape dams at 81%. They were down to 15% in 2017/18. Theewaterskloof has had the best rainy season thus far since 2002.
Our station at Brooklands in the Southern Suburbs also shows the best rainfall in many years.
https://www.csag.uct.ac.za/current-seas ... cape-town/

The flamingos at Kamphers Dam in Kimberley are thriving after a massive loss of chicks in 2019 due to drought. Excellent livecam to check their progress is on YT. When my health prevents me from going birding I do my twitching on YT live wildlife cams. Some great ones in SA.

[OomStruisbaai]

Mike Bolhuis support the Flamingo initiative. He host a lot of the birds.

Thankful for the rain specially in the dry Boesmanland area.

[FalseBayFC]

Mike Bolhuis support the Flamingo initiative. He host a lot of the birds.

Thankful for the rain specially in the dry Boesmanland area.

I volunteer at SANCCOB with seabirds. In 2019 we had a few hundred flamingo chicks from Kimberley. We spent a lot of time washing them to encourage them to preen. Helps with the waterproofing of the feathers.

[handyman]

Mike Bolhuis support the Flamingo initiative. He host a lot of the birds.

Thankful for the rain specially in the dry Boesmanland area.

I volunteer at SANCCOB with seabirds. In 2019 we had a few hundred flamingo chicks from Kimberley. We spent a lot of time washing them to encourage them to preen. Helps with the waterproofing of the feathers.

Well done lad, I salute you.

My neighbour always say she prefers animals to humans. It's tough to disagree when living in SA.

[OomStruisbaai]

Mike Bolhuis support the Flamingo initiative. He host a lot of the birds.

Thankful for the rain specially in the dry Boesmanland area.

I volunteer at SANCCOB with seabirds. In 2019 we had a few hundred flamingo chicks from Kimberley. We spent a lot of time washing them to encourage them to preen. Helps with the waterproofing of the feathers.

Awesome. I think to join something similar here in Struisbaai. We have a rich sea life like turtles, stingrays, ext

[handyman]

Mike Bolhuis support the Flamingo initiative. He host a lot of the birds.

Thankful for the rain specially in the dry Boesmanland area.

I volunteer at SANCCOB with seabirds. In 2019 we had a few hundred flamingo chicks from Kimberley. We spent a lot of time washing them to encourage them to preen. Helps with the waterproofing of the feathers.

Awesome. I think to join something similar here in Struisbaai. We have a rich sea life like turtles, stingrays, ext

What's the deal with Sea Shack these days?

[OomStruisbaai]

I volunteer at SANCCOB with seabirds. In 2019 we had a few hundred flamingo chicks from Kimberley. We spent a lot of time washing them to encourage them to preen. Helps with the waterproofing of the feathers.

Awesome. I think to join something similar here in Struisbaai. We have a rich sea life like turtles, stingrays, ext

What's the deal with Sea Shack these days?

Closed, won't open again.

[handyman]

Awesome. I think to join something similar here in Struisbaai. We have a rich sea life like turtles, stingrays, ext

What's the deal with Sea Shack these days?

Closed, won't open again.

What a damn shame.

[OomStruisbaai]

What's the deal with Sea Shack these days?

Closed, won't open again.

What a damn shame.

All due to a verkrampte doos living close and complaining about the smell of fish.

The place was a gold mine. 55 Knots and the harbours Catch Cook open now.

[FalseBayFC]

Mike Bolhuis support the Flamingo initiative. He host a lot of the birds.

Thankful for the rain specially in the dry Boesmanland area.

I volunteer at SANCCOB with seabirds. In 2019 we had a few hundred flamingo chicks from Kimberley. We spent a lot of time washing them to encourage them to preen. Helps with the waterproofing of the feathers.

Well done lad, I salute you.

My neighbour always say she prefers animals to humans. It's tough to disagree when living in SA.

[Calculon]

hope everyone is planning to vote on Monday

“To say South Africa is in a mess is an understatement. We are hugely aware of the colossal failings in our country brought about largely by corruption, cronyism, nepotism, ego, greed, mismanagement and the paucity of skills among those entrusted with the effective functioning of our country,” said Imtiaz Sooliman.

“Active citizens don't wait for government to act, they go ahead and fix what they can.

“But they have in their hand an immensely powerful weapon of change, called a vote, it’s free, life altering, decisive and effective, if put to use.

“Citizens can mope, moan, vent expletives, be the ostrich or get up and be counted among those involved in nation-building.”

[handyman]

hope everyone is planning to vote on Monday

“To say South Africa is in a mess is an understatement. We are hugely aware of the colossal failings in our country brought about largely by corruption, cronyism, nepotism, ego, greed, mismanagement and the paucity of skills among those entrusted with the effective functioning of our country,” said Imtiaz Sooliman.

“Active citizens don't wait for government to act, they go ahead and fix what they can.

“But they have in their hand an immensely powerful weapon of change, called a vote, it’s free, life altering, decisive and effective, if put to use.

“Citizens can mope, moan, vent expletives, be the ostrich or get up and be counted among those involved in nation-building.”

I'll go right after a late breakfast.

[FalseBayFC]

hope everyone is planning to vote on Monday

“To say South Africa is in a mess is an understatement. We are hugely aware of the colossal failings in our country brought about largely by corruption, cronyism, nepotism, ego, greed, mismanagement and the paucity of skills among those entrusted with the effective functioning of our country,” said Imtiaz Sooliman.

“Active citizens don't wait for government to act, they go ahead and fix what they can.

“But they have in their hand an immensely powerful weapon of change, called a vote, it’s free, life altering, decisive and effective, if put to use.

“Citizens can mope, moan, vent expletives, be the ostrich or get up and be counted among those involved in nation-building.”

I'll go right after a late breakfast.

Yep.

[Chilli]

I'll vote as they open. Then off to work.

[FalseBayFC]

For those of you interested in some local rugby today. The SA u20 final is on YT. I've been following the comp so far and am very encouraged by the quality of play. My view of the top prospects for senior rugby going forward. Lots of talent among the others but these kids caught the eye. I think Lions will take this.

Lions
Quan Horn - very pacy but smallish fullback. Tyrone Greene type. Runs great lines and good under high ball. Would be awesome for the Blitzboks

Henco van Wyk - brilliant young no.13. Apparently a little injury prone and not the biggest but has all the tools. Some good YT videos about him.

Tyler Bocks - tall physical inside centre. Can mix bosh with offloading game and has good gas.

Jurich Claasens - Flyhalf -short squat powerhouse. Very good acceleration and likes to take it to the line like a little tank. Has a very polished kicking game from the hand or place.

Ruan Venter - very impressive opensider with a huge engine. Non stop workrate

Izan Esterhuizen - Monument Hoer monster. More Willem Alberts than Juan Smith. Brutal defender.

WP
Connor Evans - Mobile and powerful lock. I watched a lot of him at Bishops in 2019. Will probably move to flank in senior rugby.

Dylan de Leeuw - Seriously athletic lineout specialist. 2.02 and 110kg.

Bobby Alexander - livewire scrumhalf who likes to run rather than kick. Huge rugby IQ and lightning fast.

Sasha Mngomezulu - England qualified through dad. Outrageously gifted. Didn't really kick on as much as I thought he would. Could be Dan Carter like if he cuts out the odd flaky moment. Part of the brilliant 2019 Bishops team. A big tall flyhalf too which is great.

Ebenzer Tshimanga - Congolese born baby elephant winger. Still at Wynberg Boys. Huge and fast. Apparently France are already sending him offers. He is almost SA qualified through citizenship so would be a huge pity. Also plays on the flank

Link to livestream at 1pm

[OomStruisbaai]

Thanks for this. I,ll move it to the CC thread.

[Calculon]

hope everyone is planning to vote on Monday

“To say South Africa is in a mess is an understatement. We are hugely aware of the colossal failings in our country brought about largely by corruption, cronyism, nepotism, ego, greed, mismanagement and the paucity of skills among those entrusted with the effective functioning of our country,” said Imtiaz Sooliman.

“Active citizens don't wait for government to act, they go ahead and fix what they can.

“But they have in their hand an immensely powerful weapon of change, called a vote, it’s free, life altering, decisive and effective, if put to use.

“Citizens can mope, moan, vent expletives, be the ostrich or get up and be counted among those involved in nation-building.”

Voted, not much of a queue, pissing it down here

[Chilli]

Queue and weather are horrendous

[‘tsek]

Voted in the local ward 1, as farms are grouped with the oldest township in the area, arrived at 11:00, out by 11:15. Very smooth process, was heckled by the EFF tent (in good nature).

Wore my new EFF t-shirt for the rest of the day including braai with friends. Hilarity ensued.

[Sandstorm]

Voted in the local ward 1, as farms are grouped with the oldest township in the area, arrived at 11:00, out by 11:15. Very smooth process, was heckled by the EFF tent (in good nature).

Wore my new EFF t-shirt for the rest of the day including braai with friends. Hilarity ensued.

Legend

[_Os_]

Am I up late in the night, to watch the count come in live for the first election where the ANC get hammered? You bet I am.

<1% counted. Wading through some of the numbers, FF+ taking a small bite out of the DA compared to 2016 but the DA easily holding otherwise, that's a rough take though bugger all votes counted.

Listening to the SABC analysts talking absolute kak based on no numbers at all. One of them just ranted about the IRR "controlling" DA policy, which gives me a good feeling about this election.

[_Os_]

The absolute rambling on about turnout on SABC.

It's normal for less than half of registered voters to vote in municipal elections (only 2011 and 2016 had slim a slim majority of registered voters turnout). It's normal for only about about a third of eligible voters (those old enough to vote registered or not) to vote in municipal elections. No one is making the obvious point that choosing not to vote is also a democratic choice.

I predict "turnout" will be the attack line when the opposition pound this election, "the DA didn't win, it was turnout chief!".

[_Os_]

6% counted.

Going through ward level numbers and comparing to 2016. ANC is down about 10% across the board. Never mind going below 50%, strong chance the ANC ends up closer to 40% than 50% in this one, very remote chance they go below 40%.

[_Os_]

Every election it's the same from the SABC. Only let the DA rep speak once, the DA election centre rep always has modelling behind what they're saying. He told them the facts with the numbers, that the FF+ was pulling half the numbers they did in 2019 and he wasn't worried about them. Later when the DA rep isn't around to defend himself, they call him "delusional" and just rant about the rise of the "right wing" the "white Afrikaans voters taking their country back!" "it's a scary thought" (verbatim quotes). The amount of times the DA has been written off I've lost count, apparently the DA is dead and zombie ET will be falling off his horse again soon.

9% counted. CT looks like it'll be a DA majority, could be large too the ANC seem to have totally collapsed/died there.

[_Os_]

11% counted.

NMB is going to be very tight. Zille has said the ANC were using dirty voter suppression tactics in strong DA wards there:


May not matter, DA just won a solid ANC township ward in NMB, it was a 700 ANC majority in 2016, now it's a 900 DA majority. If that's a general trend there'll be a DA majority in NMB.

[_Os_]

This could be a dam break election where a lot of municipalities where the DA was close but still far last time, get pushed over the line.

KZN
uMngeni (Howick and Nottingham Road area) could be a DA majority (DA was 41% there in 2016).

EC
Beyers Naude (north western part of EC) could be a DA majority (DA 48% there in 2016).


Those are two that look particularly good so far for the DA. A great result for the DA would be boosting the municipalities it holds outside the WC, winning anything anywhere where the DA hasn't won before is massive.

[OomStruisbaai]

Thanks for the updates Os.

Cape Agulhas municipality has been selected as the best one in South Africa.

DA is very strong here

[_Os_]

16% counted nationally.

Ekurhuleni (East Rand), I'm digging into the numbers there with 11% counted. Looks like the ANC vote hasn't pitched up. In 2016 ANC were 49%, DA 34%, EFF 11%. Looks like a coalition there.

[_Os_]

Thanks for the updates Os.

Cape Agulhas municipality has been selected as the best one in South Africa.

DA is very strong here

Looks like it's going to be a DA and FF+ coalition. 94% counted, DA on 44%, FF+ on 8%.

[assfly]

30% voter turnout. Shocking.

[_Os_]

North West, JB Marks (Ventersdorp and Potch), 35% counted. It's looking tight, could be a DA and FF+ coalition or could be the ANC and EFF. The ANC had 51% there in 2016, and caused a lot of shit because they couldn't govern the place with a thin majority.

Mpumalanga, Steve Tshwete (Middelburg), 70% counted, ANC on 30%, EFF 13%, DA 37%, FF+ 6%, a residents association on 12%. In 2016 the ANC were on 55% there, another one where there's a coalition coming.

[Big Nipper]

I see Herman Mashaba has taken big chunks of votes from the ANC is Soweto. Protea Glen has seen the ANC lose 28 points to Mashaba, and lose the ward!!

Awesome to see democracy in action

[_Os_]

I see Herman Mashaba has taken big chunks of votes from the ANC is Soweto. Protea Glen has seen the ANC lose 28 points to Mashaba, and lose the ward!!

Awesome to see democracy in action

ANC looks to have lost absolutely heaps in Gauteng. In Lesedi the ANC have gone from 62% in 2016 to 50.43% (News24 are calling that 100% counted), Midvaal is looking like it's going to be a DA majority again. Every other metro/municipality there looks like a coalition. Joburg/Tshwane/Ekurhuleni obviously the big prizes, looks like the DA could be the biggest party in each but with no party having a majority.

[FalseBayFC]

What happens next for the ANC? They really have shat their nest consistently since 94. Don't like your local councillor? Hire a hitman to take him out. What a mess!

What are the thoughts on Herman Mashaba? I have been an utter coward for the last two years and done the ostrich thing and ignored all political news and public discourse. I did vote yesterday. For the DA.

[Big Nipper]

DA shedding massive percentage points in Gauteng to ActionSA, and now this doozie in Cederberg

00% of votes have been counted in Cederberg municipality. The DA lost its majority in the Cederberg municipality, dropping from 55.2% in 2016, to 20.7% in the 2021 municipal elections. The party now has two seats in the council, down from six seats.

The ANC is the majority party at 35.5%, with local party Cederberg Eerste (CE) receiving 27.5% of the vote. The ANC has four seats and CE has three seats. The Patriotic Alliance and FF Plus have one seat each. This is a huge blow for the DA.

Time for Auntie Zille to fokof

[Rinkals]

This could be a dam break election where a lot of municipalities where the DA was close but still far last time, get pushed over the line.

KZN
uMngeni (Howick and Nottingham Road area) could be a DA majority (DA was 41% there in 2016).

EC
Beyers Naude (north western part of EC) could be a DA majority (DA 48% there in 2016).


Those are two that look particularly good so far for the DA. A great result for the DA would be boosting the municipalities it holds outside the WC, winning anything anywhere where the DA hasn't won before is massive.

Yes, in Nottingham Road, I believe that the DA lost by a margin of 2,500 votes 4 years ago.

I'm registered to vote in Joburg and I wasn't able to register my change of address, so I voted here in Craighall Park. Strongly DA in Craighall Park, so we had power cuts and computers going off line: took over an hour of waiting to vote.

The suspicion was that this was a tactic to encourage people not to vote in a DA area.

I'm not sure if this was the case, but I can tell you, if it was, it didn't work. I didn't see anybody leave the lines.

[_Os_]

The Metros.

CT: DA majority.
NMB: DA projected to have 42%, ANC and EFF under 50% combined.
Mangaung: ANC projected to have 51%.
Buffalo City: Looks like an ANC majority (this metro and Mangaung were the strongest for the ANC in 2016)
Ethekwini: 8% counted, it's looking dreadful for the ANC in some township wards that have come in though.
Joburg: 24% counted, looks like even more parties than before to make a working coalition. ANC looking like the largest party but below 40%.
Ekurhuleni: ANC projected to have 38%, DA 29%, EFF 14%
Tshwane: DA look on course to the largest party again, if ActionSA are taking enough votes from the ANC and EFF then the EFF may not be needed.

KZN
uMngeni (Howick and Nottingham Road area) could be a DA majority (DA was 41% there in 2016).

EC
Beyers Naude (north western part of EC) could be a DA majority (DA 48% there in 2016).

KZN
UMngeni the DA have won with 47% of the vote, DA have 13 seats, the ANC 10, and EFF 2. Well done to your crew Rinkals, first DA municipality in KZN.

EC
Beyers Naude ANC got 47% (11 seats), DA 40% (10 seats), EFF/CSA/FF+ all got 1 seat each. So that one could end up a bit unstable. Same thing happened in Kou-Kamma in the Eastern Cape, ANC 46% (6 seats), DA 27% (3 seats), PA/independent/FF+ 1 seat each.
The ANC are down in both those Eastern Cape municipalities compared to 2016 though (they were above 50% in both in 2016), and Kouga (J Bay) which is next to both is a DA majority like 2016 again. That's going to be worrying for the ANC, they're losing the western part of the Eastern Cape outside NMB. The numbers are there for 3 municipalities outside NMB to be opposition run.

North West, JB Marks (Ventersdorp and Potch), 35% counted. It's looking tight, could be a DA and FF+ coalition or could be the ANC and EFF. The ANC had 51% there in 2016, and caused a lot of shit because they couldn't govern the place with a thin majority.

Mpumalanga, Steve Tshwete (Middelburg), 70% counted, ANC on 30%, EFF 13%, DA 37%, FF+ 6%, a residents association on 12%. In 2016 the ANC were on 55% there, another one where there's a coalition coming.

NW
JB Marks is 80% counted. ANC on 42%, DA 29%, FF+ 16%, EFF 8%, PA 3%. It's looking good for removing the ANC there, potentially without needing the EFF.

MP
Steve Tshwete, very nearly finished counting, ANC have won 37% (down from 55% in 2016), DA 28%, EFF 15%, MHRF (a residents association) 11%, FF+ 5%, an independent 1% (but won a seat). There'll be a non-ANC coalition there if the EFF plays ball.
In Mpumalanga it looks much the same in Lekwa (Standerton) and Govan Mbeki (Secunda) although there's a lot more to count there, the mix of parties and vote shares is different in each but the ANC well below 50%, if all the opposition parties want it the ANC could be booted out in both of these also.
Mpumalanga could go from never having a non-ANC run municipality to having multiple muncipalities that are coalition run. A bit of a test of how much of an opposition party the EFF are.

NC
There's well over 10 municipalities where the ANC is far below 50%. A bit of a confusing mix of parties that's different in each municipality. The general theme looks to be that if the ANC was hitting a percentage in the low to mid 50s in 2016, it's now in the low to mid 40s. Could be a lot of non-ANC municipalities there. Which makes it look good for the ANC losing the whole province in 2024.

FS
Metsimaholo (Sasolburg) is starting to look good for the opposition. ANC won 45% there in 2016 and there was a lot of bullshit and instability. 40% counted and the ANC look on course to have less than 40%, ANC and EFF are together about 50%.

[_Os_]

DA shedding massive percentage points in Gauteng to ActionSA,

Well not really hey. Action SA looks to be getting support from former ANC/EFF voters, not too much from the DA beyond some examples that will no doubt get a lot of airtime. DA voters that experienced Mashaba in Joburg seem to regard him as a disaster.

and now this doozie in Cederberg

00% of votes have been counted in Cederberg municipality. The DA lost its majority in the Cederberg municipality, dropping from 55.2% in 2016, to 20.7% in the 2021 municipal elections. The party now has two seats in the council, down from six seats.

The ANC is the majority party at 35.5%, with local party Cederberg Eerste (CE) receiving 27.5% of the vote. The ANC has four seats and CE has three seats. The Patriotic Alliance and FF Plus have one seat each. This is a huge blow for the DA.

Time for Auntie Zille to fokof

You have to be very careful when you read reports like this. Some people are still fucking desperate for the DA to do badly and ANC do well. It is bad result for the DA, but that doesn't mean it was good for the ANC as this report is trying to claim. Cederberg has had issues for years btw, it's nothing to do with Zille.

The DA got 55% in 2016, and the ANC 35%. This time the DA got 21%, Cederberg Eerste 27.5%, PA 8%, FF+ 3%. So a residents party took the DA vote, and some other minnows grew too. The ANC are just sitting on the same hardcore voters they had in 2016, the same 35% and the same 4 seats out of 11. The ANC are not "the majority party" there, they don't have over 50%+1 of the vote, the ANC have a plurality of the vote which means the largest party when none have a majority.

So the CE now needs to form a coalition with the DA and other smaller parties. Or they put the ANC into power and see how that works out for them.

Also in the Western Cape to the immediate north of Cederberg, the DA have just won a plurality in Matzikama (Vredendal), growing from 5 seats to 6, the ANC has gone from 8 to 4. It's not as simple as "Zille must go".

It's actually GOOD who lost out in the Western Cape, a lot of really pissed off coloured people and they didn't manage to capitalise on much of it. Instead about 5 different parties grew in different places (including the DA in some places). Ironically a lot of them would be pissed at the way auntie Pat was treated (although this is far behind local issues), but they didn't vote for her and of course auntie Helen backed auntie Pat. In some of those municipalities GOOD will have to decide if it's not so good and put the ANC back into power.