Autumn Series Week 3: SCO vs RSA, ITA vs ARG, IRE vs NZ, ENG vs AUS, FRA vs GEO, WAL vs FIJI

[sockwithaticket]

England team to face the Crims.

15. Freddie Steward (Leicester)
14. Manu Tuilagi (Sale)
13. Henry Slade (Exeter)
12. Owen Farrell (capt, Saracens)
11. Jonny May (Gloucester)
10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester)
1. Ellis Genge (Leicester)
2. Jamie George (Saracens)
3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol)
4. Maro Itoje (Saracens)
5. Jonny Hill (Exeter)
6. Courtney Lawes (Northampton)
7. Sam Underhill (Bath)
8. Tom Curry (Sale)

Replacements: Jamie Blamire (Newcastle), Bevan Rodd (Sale), Will Stuart (Bath), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins), Sam Simmonds (Exeter), Raffi Quirke (Sale), Max Malins (Saracens).

Apparently Eddie wants to give them a fighting chance with a real fuck around selection.

[sturginho]

Italia
15 Matteo MINOZZI (Wasps Rugby, 23 caps)
14 Edoardo PADOVANI (Benetton Rugby, 28 caps)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 6 caps)
12 Luca MORISI (Benetton Rugby, 34 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Benetton Rugby, 7 caps)
10 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 11 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby 8 caps)
8 Giovanni LICATA (Zebre Parma, 11 caps)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 8 caps) – capitano
6 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 34 caps)
5 David SISI (Zebre Parma, 16 caps)
4 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 14 caps)
3 Marco RICCIONI (Saracens, 16 caps)
2 Gianmarco LUCCHESI (Benetton Rugby, 7 caps)
1 Ivan NEMER (Benetton Ruby, 1 cap)

A disposizione
16 Luca BIGI (Zebre Parma 38 caps)
17 Danilo FISCHETTI (Zebre Parma, 13 caps)
18 Pietro CECCARELLI (Brive, 15 caps)
19 Marco FUSER (Newcastle Falcons, 34 caps)
20 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 23 caps)
21 Giovanni PETTINELLI (Benetton Rugby, esordiente)
22 Alessandro FUSCO (Fiamme Oro Rugby/Zebre Parma, esordiente)
23 Federico MORI (Bordeaux, 10 caps)

[Grandpa]

Great to see Blackadder starting, he has definitely earned his spot. Sam Cane has gone from (C) to out of the squad. Is he injured? My main question is what time will RMo move into 15?

Cane hasn't fully recovered match fitness from his big injury yet has he? I don't expect him to feature again this year,.. Richie better not go to 15...

[JM2K6]

What's the deal with Mo'unga? Why's he fallen out of favour? I've not followed Kiwi rugby as much as usual this season.

[charltom]

Scotland team to face South Africa at BT Murrayfield live on Amazon Prime – Saturday 13 November 2021 – kick-off 1pm.



15. Stuart Hogg – Exeter Chiefs - (Captain) – 86 caps

14. Rufus McLean – Glasgow Warriors - 1 cap

13. Chris Harris – Gloucester Rugby – 29 caps

12. Matt Scott – Leicester Tigers – 39 caps

11. Duhan van der Merwe – Worcester Warriors – 11 caps

10. Finn Russell – Racing 92 - (Vice-Captain) – 56 caps

9. Ali Price – Glasgow Warriors – 44 caps



1. Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby – 2 caps

2. Stuart McInally – Edinburgh Rugby - 41 caps

3. Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 40 caps

4. Sam Skinner – Exeter Chiefs – 13 caps

5. Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby – 46 caps

6. Nick Haining – Edinburgh Rugby – 9 caps

7. Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby - (Vice-Captain) – 29 caps

8. Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 15 caps




Replacements


16. Ewan Ashman – Sale Sharks – 1 cap

17. Jamie Bhatti – Glasgow Warriors – 20 caps

18. Oli Kebble – Glasgow Warriors – 10 caps

19. Jamie Hodgson – Edinburgh Rugby – 2 caps

20. Hamish Watson – Edinburgh Rugby – 43 caps

21. George Horne – Glasgow Warriors – 15 caps

22. Adam Hastings – Gloucester Rugby – 24 caps

23. Blair Kinghorn – Edinburgh Rugby – 26 caps

[Grandpa]

What's the deal with Mo'unga? Why's he fallen out of favour? I've not followed Kiwi rugby as much as usual this season.

He hasn't really... he made himself unavailable for the Rugby Championship in Australia due to his wife giving birth during that tournament.. meanwhile BB has played half decent while Richie was away... and with limited game time, Richie hasn't really had the opportunity or done enough in the two blow outs against the US and Italy, to force the selectors to start him ahead of BB...

[Kiwias]

Great to see Blackadder starting, he has definitely earned his spot. Sam Cane has gone from (C) to out of the squad. Is he injured? My main question is what time will RMo move into 15?

Cane hasn't fully recovered match fitness from his big injury yet has he? I don't expect him to feature again this year,.. Richie better not go to 15...

I think that is the case with Cane. Foz has form in putting RMo at 15…..

[Grandpa]

Great to see Blackadder starting, he has definitely earned his spot. Sam Cane has gone from (C) to out of the squad. Is he injured? My main question is what time will RMo move into 15?

Cane hasn't fully recovered match fitness from his big injury yet has he? I don't expect him to feature again this year,.. Richie better not go to 15...

I think that is the case with Cane. Foz has form in putting RMo at 15…..

Well, I hope it never happens again...

[boere wors]

England team to face the Crims.

15. Freddie Steward (Leicester)
14. Manu Tuilagi (Sale)
13. Henry Slade (Exeter)
12. Owen Farrell (capt, Saracens)
11. Jonny May (Gloucester)
10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester)
1. Ellis Genge (Leicester)
2. Jamie George (Saracens)
3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol)
4. Maro Itoje (Saracens)
5. Jonny Hill (Exeter)
6. Courtney Lawes (Northampton)
7. Sam Underhill (Bath)
8. Tom Curry (Sale)

Replacements: Jamie Blamire (Newcastle), Bevan Rodd (Sale), Will Stuart (Bath), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins), Sam Simmonds (Exeter), Raffi Quirke (Sale), Max Malins (Saracens).

Apparently Eddie wants to give them a fighting chance with a real fuck around selection.

Tuilagi on the wing?? He must be quite slow and catching high balls isnt his speciality either I reckon?!
Excited for Marcus Smith at 10, big game against Australia.
And wouldnt Lawes be better suited at 8, with Curry 6 and underhill 7?!

[JM2K6]

England team to face the Crims.

15. Freddie Steward (Leicester)
14. Manu Tuilagi (Sale)
13. Henry Slade (Exeter)
12. Owen Farrell (capt, Saracens)
11. Jonny May (Gloucester)
10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester)
1. Ellis Genge (Leicester)
2. Jamie George (Saracens)
3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol)
4. Maro Itoje (Saracens)
5. Jonny Hill (Exeter)
6. Courtney Lawes (Northampton)
7. Sam Underhill (Bath)
8. Tom Curry (Sale)

Replacements: Jamie Blamire (Newcastle), Bevan Rodd (Sale), Will Stuart (Bath), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins), Sam Simmonds (Exeter), Raffi Quirke (Sale), Max Malins (Saracens).

Apparently Eddie wants to give them a fighting chance with a real fuck around selection.

Tuilagi on the wing?? He must be quite slow and catching high balls isnt his speciality either I reckon?!
Excited for Marcus Smith at 10, big game against Australia.
And wouldnt Lawes be better suited at 8, with Curry 6 and underhill 7?!

Lawes is a second row moonlighting as a flanker. No way is he an 8. The two best 8s we have are both on the bench.

[JM2K6]

What's the deal with Mo'unga? Why's he fallen out of favour? I've not followed Kiwi rugby as much as usual this season.

He hasn't really... he made himself unavailable for the Rugby Championship in Australia due to his wife giving birth during that tournament.. meanwhile BB has played half decent while Richie was away... and with limited game time, Richie hasn't really had the opportunity or done enough in the two blow outs against the US and Italy, to force the selectors to start him ahead of BB...

Cheers, that explains it!

[assfly]

What a weird England team.

[OomStruisbaai]

15. Stuart Hogg – Exeter Chiefs - (Captain) – 86 caps

14. Rufus McLean – Glasgow Warriors - 1 cap

13. Chris Harris – Gloucester Rugby – 29 caps

12. Matt Scott – Leicester Tigers – 39 caps

11. Duhan van der Merwe – Worcester Warriors – 11 caps

10. Finn Russell – Racing 92 - (Vice-Captain) – 56 caps

9. Ali Price – Glasgow Warriors – 44 caps



1. Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby – 2 caps

2. Stuart McInally – Edinburgh Rugby - 41 caps

3. Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 40 caps

4. Sam Skinner – Exeter Chiefs – 13 caps

5. Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby – 46 caps

6. Nick Haining – Edinburgh Rugby – 9 caps

7. Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby - (Vice-Captain) – 29 caps

8. Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 15 caps




Replacements


16. Ewan Ashman – Sale Sharks – 1 cap

17. Jamie Bhatti – Glasgow Warriors – 20 caps

18. Oli Kebble – Glasgow Warriors – 10 caps

19. Jamie Hodgson – Edinburgh Rugby – 2 caps

20. Hamish Watson – Edinburgh Rugby – 43 caps

21. George Horne – Glasgow Warriors – 15 caps

22. Adam Hastings – Gloucester Rugby – 24 caps

23. Blair Kinghorn – Edinburgh Rugby – 26 caps

Strong team.

Scotland by 50

[sockwithaticket]

What a weird England team.

It's Eddie doing his "I'm a maverick rugby genius. 4d chess, maaaate" thing.

[sturginho]

Italia
15 Matteo MINOZZI (Wasps Rugby, 23 caps)
14 Edoardo PADOVANI (Benetton Rugby, 28 caps)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 6 caps)
12 Luca MORISI (Benetton Rugby, 34 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Benetton Rugby, 7 caps)
10 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 11 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby 8 caps)
8 Giovanni LICATA (Zebre Parma, 11 caps)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 8 caps) – capitano
6 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 34 caps)
5 David SISI (Zebre Parma, 16 caps)
4 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 14 caps)
3 Marco RICCIONI (Saracens, 16 caps)
2 Gianmarco LUCCHESI (Benetton Rugby, 7 caps)
1 Ivan NEMER (Benetton Ruby, 1 cap)

A disposizione
16 Luca BIGI (Zebre Parma 38 caps)
17 Danilo FISCHETTI (Zebre Parma, 13 caps)
18 Pietro CECCARELLI (Brive, 15 caps)
19 Marco FUSER (Newcastle Falcons, 34 caps)
20 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 23 caps)
21 Giovanni PETTINELLI (Benetton Rugby, esordiente)
22 Alessandro FUSCO (Fiamme Oro Rugby/Zebre Parma, esordiente)
23 Federico MORI (Bordeaux, 10 caps)

Argentina:
15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Santiago Cordero, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Jeronimo De La Fuente, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Tomas Cubelli, 8 Facundo Isa, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Marcos Kremer, 3 Francisco Gomez Kodela, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo.
A disposizione: 16 Facundo Bosch, 17 Ignacio Calles, 18 Santiago Medrano, 19 Lucas Paulos, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Gonzalo Bertranou, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Lucio Cinti

[Ymx]

What's the deal with Mo'unga? Why's he fallen out of favour? I've not followed Kiwi rugby as much as usual this season.

To be honest it’s a new thing.

R Mo spent a bit of time out when he stayed at home having a new child. So missed out on the entire RC.

BB put his hand up a bit. Though people seem to recall just his brilliant moments and forget his brain farts.

Them both being available is a new thing. So I guess BB getting praise for Wales match, and R Mo falling out of favour with the Italy match.

So not sure it’s set in stone, but BB would seem to be favourite on the back of the selection this week.

[convoluted]

(Mounga) hasn't really... he made himself unavailable for the Rugby Championship in Australia due to his wife giving birth during that tournament.. meanwhile BB has played half decent while Richie was away...

It's the old adage: "never take a day off work because your replacement might make an adequate if not better fist of it."

[fishfoodie]

Ireland Team; only change from the Japan game is Henderson.

Ireland: Hugo Keenan; Andrew Conway, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe; Johnny Sexton, Jamison Gibson-Park; Andrew Porter, Rónan Kelleher, Tadhg Furlong; Iain Henderson, James Ryan, Caelan Doris, Josh van der Flier, Jack Conan

Replacements: Rob Herring, Cian Healy, Finlay Bealham, Tadhg Beirne, Peter O'Mahony, Conor Murray, Joey Carbery, Keith Earls

[convoluted]

(Mounga) hasn't really... he made himself unavailable for the Rugby Championship in Australia due to his wife giving birth during that tournament.. meanwhile BB has played half decent while Richie was away...

It's the old adage: "never take a day off work because your replacement might make an adequate if not better fist of it."

I've just thought that didn't BB get his opportunity at 10 in the first place because Cruden missed a plane or bus or something.

Just like Scott Barrett and Tuipolutu have given Lord a big leg up.
The success of the young guys at lock might have the selectors eyeing up the teenage Dutch poach as well.
Warm fuzzies over newborns are all very well, but nobody is going to wait around for you to decide you're now available.

[Ymx]

Yeah, BB was criminally kept on the sideline for Cruden. That was when BB was at his finest. Until Cruden got himself in to trouble and missed the plane.

But even then I think BB wasn’t first choice as Cruden still had a look in after that tour.

[OomStruisbaai]

Nowadays the bench is more important then the starting XV.

[Kiwias]

Cane hasn't fully recovered match fitness from his big injury yet has he? I don't expect him to feature again this year,.. Richie better not go to 15...

I think that is the case with Cane. Foz has form in putting RMo at 15…..

Well, I hope it never happens again...

I stil can't believe it happened even once.

[Gumboot]

Happy with that starting XV. ALB's a better 12 than Havili, and with Ioane at centre and Reece at 11 I hope we're able to shift the ball wide as much as possible. Would esp like to see us attack down James Lowe's wing, as I recall him having some horrible brain farts on defence in Supe rugby.

[Grandpa]

Nowadays the bench is more important then the starting XV.

I really don't think it is....

[Grandpa]

Happy with that starting XV. ALB's a better 12 than Havili, and with Ioane at centre and Reece at 11 I hope we're able to shift the ball wide as much as possible. Would esp like to see us attack down James Lowe's wing, as I recall him having some horrible brain farts on defence in Supe rugby.

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[Grandpa]

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[Grandpa]

(Mounga) hasn't really... he made himself unavailable for the Rugby Championship in Australia due to his wife giving birth during that tournament.. meanwhile BB has played half decent while Richie was away...

It's the old adage: "never take a day off work because your replacement might make an adequate if not better fist of it."

Yeah it is a dangerous game to play at elite level... could make or break your career...

[Gumboot]

Happy with that starting XV. ALB's a better 12 than Havili, and with Ioane at centre and Reece at 11 I hope we're able to shift the ball wide as much as possible. Would esp like to see us attack down James Lowe's wing, as I recall him having some horrible brain farts on defence in Supe rugby.

Your avatar has vanished!

Got tired of impersonating my brother.

[OomStruisbaai]

Nowadays the bench is more important then the starting XV.

I really don't think it is....

Rassie introduced the bom squad with great success.

[Ymx]

Note sure which thread to post this in.

“ Eddie Jones says Wallabies suffer 'inferiority complex' against England”
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/eddie-jo ... t-england/

This one, or the Eddie Jones is a …. Thread.

[Grandpa]

Nowadays the bench is more important then the starting XV.

I really don't think it is....

Rassie introduced the bom squad with great success.

Pretty useless if you are losing 45-0 when they come on...

And to be fair, the All Blacks bench 2010 to 2015 pre-dated the Bomb squad for effectiveness... but you still need a solid platform for your bench to be a difference maker....

[Grandpa]

Note sure which thread to post this in.

“ Eddie Jones says Wallabies suffer 'inferiority complex' against England”
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/eddie-jo ... t-england/

This one, or the Eddie Jones is a …. Thread.

Was he talking about himself?

[Grandpa]

Happy with that starting XV. ALB's a better 12 than Havili, and with Ioane at centre and Reece at 11 I hope we're able to shift the ball wide as much as possible. Would esp like to see us attack down James Lowe's wing, as I recall him having some horrible brain farts on defence in Supe rugby.

Your avatar has vanished!

Got tired of impersonating my brother.

I miss him...

[OomStruisbaai]

I really don't think it is....

Rassie introduced the bom squad with great success.

Pretty useless if you are losing 45-0 when they come on...

And to be fair, the All Blacks bench 2010 to 2015 pre-dated the Bomb squad for effectiveness... but you still need a solid platform for your bench to be a difference maker....

Granted, You need to create depth to be able to do this.

Our two sets of frontrows the example.

[JM2K6]

Nowadays the bench is more important then the starting XV.

I really don't think it is....

Rassie introduced the bom squad with great success.

Eddie Jones and his "finishers"

It's great until it isn't

[laurent]

Some experimenting for the Georgian game

[Torquemada 1420]

Le XV de départ des Bleus :
15. Jaminet ; 14. Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Ntamack, 11. Lebel ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Dupont (cap.) ; 7. Macalou, 8. Alldritt, 6. Jelonch; 5. Taofifenua, 4. Woki; 3. Atonio, 2. Marchand, 1. Baille.

Remplaçants :
16. Mauvaka, 17. Gros, 18. Bamba, 19. Flament, 20. Willemse, 21. Cros, 22. Lucu, 23. Danty.

- So Ntamack is becoming France's version of Farrell. His manager is going to find some way to shoehorn him in no matter what.
- I really fail to see the point of Tao who is a limited player with lowish work rate and questionable fitness. Especially given the number of younger locks around.
- Lebel is there because he plays for Toulouse and if that's the selection criteria, Tauzin had to be ahead of him.
- Atonio

- The good news is we get a much better balanced back row and a chance for Macalou who has been a one man team for Paris this season.

[Blake]

Ellis Genge tested positive for Covid.

[Slick]

Have a feeling we are going to take a beating tomorrow, just not sure we can compete for long enough with a few key positions missing the number 1.

Scotland 13 - 27 SA

[Blake]

Have a feeling we are going to take a beating tomorrow, just not sure we can compete for long enough with a few key positions missing the number 1.

Scotland 13 - 27 SA

I'd love it if that was the case, but the Scots are just so damn clever.
I think you will have parity in the scrum and then you have a bunch of tricksy lineout moves, Finn Russel doing mad shit to bamboozle the defense, and Hoggs counter attacks...I dunno.
I'm not as confident as I'd like to be going into the match. I'm expecting a win, but I also think the Boks are going to have to work VERY hard for it. The are going to be tested in a lot of areas where they might have become a little complacent.