Ashes / Proteas vs India
I saw there was a debate about why India didn't enforce the follow on, but I'd say that the Indian batsmen have a higher regard for their batting figures than to risk batting last.
Likewise, the Indian bowlers don't want to have to work too hard for their five-fers.
Likewise, the Indian bowlers don't want to have to work too hard for their five-fers.
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Thank god that tour is over.
I know that it helped put a little money into the NZ coffers - but really - all it did was give the Indian batters and bowlers a chance to improve their stats. NZ looked absolutely done in. I expect us to struggle in Indian conditions - but this was 1990's NZ cricket stylee. 3 months in bio-bubbles and finishing in India. If it wasn't about the money then I don't really understand what NZ cricket was hoping to get out of this tour.
And what of Rosco - should he be in this set up anymore? Of all the players in this test - he should have been the freshest. He looked horribly out of touch. Is he getting a sympathy place in the team?
I know that it helped put a little money into the NZ coffers - but really - all it did was give the Indian batters and bowlers a chance to improve their stats. NZ looked absolutely done in. I expect us to struggle in Indian conditions - but this was 1990's NZ cricket stylee. 3 months in bio-bubbles and finishing in India. If it wasn't about the money then I don't really understand what NZ cricket was hoping to get out of this tour.
And what of Rosco - should he be in this set up anymore? Of all the players in this test - he should have been the freshest. He looked horribly out of touch. Is he getting a sympathy place in the team?
Similar sympathy for what India went through in England... can't be easy that long in a foreign country in a bubble...Thor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:13 am Thank god that tour is over.
I know that it helped put a little money into the NZ coffers - but really - all it did was give the Indian batters and bowlers a chance to improve their stats. NZ looked absolutely done in. I expect us to struggle in Indian conditions - but this was 1990's NZ cricket stylee. 3 months in bio-bubbles and finishing in India. If it wasn't about the money then I don't really understand what NZ cricket was hoping to get out of this tour.
And what of Rosco - should he be in this set up anymore? Of all the players in this test - he should have been the freshest. He looked horribly out of touch. Is he getting a sympathy place in the team?
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England to dominate?JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:05 am If nothing else it's a good learning experience for a number of players, and while it wasn't close it still probably won't be as one-sided as the Ashes.
The only thing England are going to dominate is chair tennis in the hotel with all the spare time they'll have from being rolled in under 3 days each timeThor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:28 pmEngland to dominate?JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:05 am If nothing else it's a good learning experience for a number of players, and while it wasn't close it still probably won't be as one-sided as the Ashes.
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But....but.....Stokes.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:53 pmThe only thing England are going to dominate is chair tennis in the hotel with all the spare time they'll have from being rolled in under 3 days each timeThor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:28 pmEngland to dominate?JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:05 am If nothing else it's a good learning experience for a number of players, and while it wasn't close it still probably won't be as one-sided as the Ashes.
OK fineThor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:03 pmBut....but.....Stokes.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:53 pmThe only thing England are going to dominate is chair tennis in the hotel with all the spare time they'll have from being rolled in under 3 days each time
Stokes will physically dominate some poor bastard Aussie spectator who says the wrong thing (anything) at the wrong time (any time)
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JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:27 pmOK fineThor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:03 pmBut....but.....Stokes.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:53 pm
The only thing England are going to dominate is chair tennis in the hotel with all the spare time they'll have from being rolled in under 3 days each time
Stokes will physically dominate some poor bastard Aussie spectator who says the wrong thing (anything) at the wrong time (any time)

Genuinely unsure as to how this series will go. I think if Archer was playing - then the scales would tip in England's favour. Going to be a good one I reckon.
Really? Genuinely, I'm shocked - England are a dog-shit Test team with a dreadful batting lineup, playing away in the one place our quality bowlers have awful records. I don't doubt that Broad, Anderson, Woakes, and Stokes will give it their all (not sure who else is fit - Ollie Robinson?) but surely the smart money is on us getting rolled by the Aussie attack time and time again.Thor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:39 pmJM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:27 pmOK fine
Stokes will physically dominate some poor bastard Aussie spectator who says the wrong thing (anything) at the wrong time (any time)![]()
Genuinely unsure as to how this series will go. I think if Archer was playing - then the scales would tip in England's favour. Going to be a good one I reckon.
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I don't know man. England are a different beast in the Ashes (regardless of results). Jimmy and Broad will be snarling beasts in what will likely be their last Ashes down under.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:41 pmReally? Genuinely, I'm shocked - England are a dog-shit Test team with a dreadful batting lineup, playing away in the one place our quality bowlers have awful records. I don't doubt that Broad, Anderson, Woakes, and Stokes will give it their all (not sure who else is fit - Ollie Robinson?) but surely the smart money is on us getting rolled by the Aussie attack time and time again.Thor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:39 pmJM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:27 pm
OK fine
Stokes will physically dominate some poor bastard Aussie spectator who says the wrong thing (anything) at the wrong time (any time)![]()
Genuinely unsure as to how this series will go. I think if Archer was playing - then the scales would tip in England's favour. Going to be a good one I reckon.
Understand that I am basing this on nothing other than the feeling I have that England are going to be up for this. They have match winners - and I suspect that the Aussie dressing room isn't the most cohesive place on earth.
Looking forward to it though.
I've seen too many supine pastings in away Ashes to think we're a different beast! Obviously it's far from a vintage Aussie side and they have their own issues, but frankly them losing Paine is a massive upgrade for them and Cummings will be pretty ruthless.Thor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:52 pmI don't know man. England are a different beast in the Ashes (regardless of results). Jimmy and Broad will be snarling beasts in what will likely be their last Ashes down under.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:41 pmReally? Genuinely, I'm shocked - England are a dog-shit Test team with a dreadful batting lineup, playing away in the one place our quality bowlers have awful records. I don't doubt that Broad, Anderson, Woakes, and Stokes will give it their all (not sure who else is fit - Ollie Robinson?) but surely the smart money is on us getting rolled by the Aussie attack time and time again.Thor Sedan wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:39 pm
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Genuinely unsure as to how this series will go. I think if Archer was playing - then the scales would tip in England's favour. Going to be a good one I reckon.
Understand that I am basing this on nothing other than the feeling I have that England are going to be up for this. They have match winners - and I suspect that the Aussie dressing room isn't the most cohesive place on earth.
Looking forward to it though.