At the very least if it goes to ground while still travelling forward, the team in possession should get the scrum put in. Possession should only turn over if the defence actually stop the maul dead.Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:55 pm I understand the reasoning behind it, but one of the shittest laws in rugby is being able to lie all over the ball on the ground after your maul has retreated 15m or more.
If the ball is on the ground you should have to get the fuck off it.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:51 pmDidn't get low enough in a tackle and smacked heads with Page Relo.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:50 pmWhat happened?sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:48 pm I thought Umaga might have crouched enough for mitigation, but he ran the risk and paid the price.
We're going to need a hell of a game to overcome this.
Am I right in thinking that fir it to be a red, there has to be some recklessness involved?
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No. Not anymoreRandom1 wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:03 pmsockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:51 pmDidn't get low enough in a tackle and smacked heads with Page Relo.
Am I right in thinking that fir it to be a red, there has to be some recklessness involved?
No, the key requirements are contact with the head and degree of danger (framework set out below);Random1 wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:03 pmsockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:51 pmDidn't get low enough in a tackle and smacked heads with Page Relo.
Am I right in thinking that fir it to be a red, there has to be some recklessness involved?

In this case the tackle met all the requirements for a red card, and the ref and TMO decided that there weren’t any mitigating factors that might reduce it to a yellow.
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Don't worry. Toulouse will still lose.
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Well, well. Another head on head, this time from Toulouse and with considerably more force than Umaga.
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Yeah, Barbeary didn't drop significantly before the contact. Nonsense level of consistency.
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This sums up Ntamack. In a game against 14, you need a FH who can manage a game but he, like Russell, can only play by instinct.
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Ramos is the new Poitrenaud.
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Errrr..... suggest I know more about T14 sides then you do about Prem ones.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:19 pmSame Wasps which defeated Prem leaders last week?sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:53 pmI did, but otherwise decent French teams having an off day in the UK when the weather's shit or they're considered favourites is hardly unusual.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:39 pm
Toulouse has been a one man side this season. And that man is not playing. Did you watch the game v Cardiff D?
Besides, my prediction is more about the sorry state of Wasps than Toulouse's merits.![]()

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This is comfortably the best Wasps have played all season, even better than last week.
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Yupsockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:48 pm This is comfortably the best Wasps have played all season, even better than last week.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:48 pm This is comfortably the best Wasps have played all season, even better than last week.

Seriously.

Toulouse have relied so much on Dupont, it's unreal. It's not a stretch to suggest they could have lost to Cardiff D if Dupont did not come up with a one man show.
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Damn. That would have been fitting if Merde-ard had given the game away for certain with that. Another clown who should retire.
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Torq a) are you now watching this and b) have you seen much of wasps this season?
Jesus, just too hard
Jesus, just too hard
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It feels wrong that a near try opportunity like that ends up with a scrum inside our half.
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Yes. Have switched over now. Have only seen bits of Wasps but have seen a helluva a lot of Toulouse. Saw Wasps last week and was way better than what I've seen from the Red men. Doesn't really matter because the result bears out what I said before the game started. Even if somehow Toulouse wins this, they've looked sh*te against 14 men. All the talking down of Wasps was either ill informed in the context of this game or mocker-godding.Happyhooker wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:51 pm Torq a) are you now watching this and b) have you seen much of wasps this season?
Jesus, just too hard
PS Part of the reason I didn't bother watching at the start was because I expected this. Only switched over because nothing else on.
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As an aside, anyone who thinks Jelonch is in the same league as Macalou is cuckoo.
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Healey is right - not going for the try here is mad
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I don't think we're all that interest in Europe this season tbh. There's still plenty to do in the Prem and our butcher's bill has only extended after this game (Willis and Cruse look set to be out and Umaga will surely cop a ban).
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I'll happily take that. I like the way our season is going. The last 2 games have been so much better than anything earlier in the season.
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I've never really heard barbeary talk before. Do we prefer forwards with a lisp?
HH, did you know a guy called Micky Ireland when you were at the club?Happyhooker wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:09 pm I'll happily take that. I like the way our season is going. The last 2 games have been so much better than anything earlier in the season.
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Nah, they've been missing for a while. Walking ad for gumshields that lad.
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I think you've asked me this before, but no, not off hand, but then I did leave when I was 18 and have an appalling memory for names.Slick wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:10 pmHH, did you know a guy called Micky Ireland when you were at the club?Happyhooker wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:09 pm I'll happily take that. I like the way our season is going. The last 2 games have been so much better than anything earlier in the season.
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Ah the old "lose one, lose them all" brandsockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:13 pmNah, they've been missing for a while. Walking ad for gumshields that lad.
Ah, shame - was thinking he was wearing his big boy pants, doing an interview after losing teeth. That’d have been impressive.sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:13 pmNah, they've been missing for a while. Walking ad for gumshields that lad.
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WTF is it with these baby sh*t coloured shirts? First Quins and now Opsreys. 

A penalty kicked dead and a kick off out on the full in the first 15 minutes and a penalty conceded for offside.GogLais wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:27 pm Doesn't suppose (m)any are watching the Dragons but Sam bloody Davies.
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I'll raise you with Russell's 5 unforced errors resulting in turnovers in 20 mins.

{EDIT}which ultimately results in conceding a try.
Yes but Davies is Welsh so the bar is higher.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:39 pmI'll raise you with Russell's 5 unforced errors resulting in turnovers in 20 mins.
{EDIT}which ultimately results in conceding a try.