Stop voting for fucking Tories

[C69]

So there is apparently a recoding of one of the Tories Chief whips leaning on an MP or MPs.
It's the gift that just keeps giving.
Mark Spencer's intimidation basically corroborates what the Bury South defector said about Blackmail.

No money for your patch if you vote against Boris.
I really hope the police are called this is Public money and probably misconduct in Public office from the Whip.

Boris yet again doing an Arsene Wenger won't wash any more.

[Margin__Walker]

So there is apparently a recoding of one of the Tories Chief whips leaning on an MP or MPs.
It's the gift that just keeps giving.
Mark Spencer's intimidation basically corroborates what the Bury South defector said.
No money for your patch if you vote against Boris.
I really hope the police are called this is Public money and probably misconduct in Public office from the Whip.

Boris yet again doing an Arsene Wenger won't wash any more.

I had that thought yesterday. Thing to do is make the allegation, let them deny it, then release a recording.

We all know that whips threaten MPs. The really damaging thing would be if they were caught threatening to withhold public funds from rebel MPs constituencies.

[C69]

So there is apparently a recoding of one of the Tories Chief whips leaning on an MP or MPs.
It's the gift that just keeps giving.
Mark Spencer's intimidation basically corroborates what the Bury South defector said.
No money for your patch if you vote against Boris.
I really hope the police are called this is Public money and probably misconduct in Public office from the Whip.

Boris yet again doing an Arsene Wenger won't wash any more.

I had that thought yesterday. Thing to do is make the allegation, let them deny it, then release a recording.

We all know that whips threaten MPs. The really damaging thing would be if they were caught threatening to withhold public funds from rebel MPs constituencies.

The transcripts suggest that is exactly what the Tory attack dogs are doing.
Oh dear. They certainly won't be getting my vote.

[Margin__Walker]

Could get interesting then. What they should do is hand it over to the Met and put them on the spot. That would be fun.

[Tichtheid]

fishfoodie is not wrong, good post.

Further to that, our entire political culture needs thrown out, the back benchers aren’t plotting to get rid of Bojo the Clown because of moral outrage at his lying, they are trying to save their own grubby little careers. The press is acting in outrage at the partying while the populace followed the rules they brought in, whilst knowing all along that he was an untrustworthy fool.
The entire system is rotten.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-minister

[tabascoboy]

...
Lesson to the UK; you can't whip, or threaten, or Blackmail, ordinary voters; you do actually have the groundwork, & convince them !

Problem is that dog-whistle politics has become so ingrained here that change is going to be very hard to inspire

[Paddington Bear]

I guess this misses the key point on electoral reform - that it isn't in the interests of either party of government. Being able to wield massive majorities enabled Blair to shape the country in ways that are still obvious today, no Labour leader is giving up the opportunity to do the same. Same reason the Tories never flirted with it whilst in the wilderness.

[Muttonbird]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

[Slick]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I presume that works the other way as well with your PM?

[Muttonbird]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I presume that works the other way as well with your PM?

Absolutely. The majority continues to be proud of Jacinda Ardern 24 months after the pandemic.

Deaths per million:

UK 2239
NZ 10

[Slick]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I presume that works the other way as well with your PM?

Absolutely. The majority continues to be proud of Jacinda Ardern 24 months after the pandemic.

Deaths per million:

UK 2239
NZ 10

fuck off snowflake

[sockwithaticket]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I know you're a dribbling moron, but surely even you can work out that 46% of the vote isn't a huge majority.

That it delivers a majority of parliamentary seats speaks to how unfit first past the post is as a means of delivering representative government.

[Muttonbird]

I presume that works the other way as well with your PM?

Absolutely. The majority continues to be proud of Jacinda Ardern 24 months after the pandemic.

Deaths per million:

UK 2239
NZ 10

fuck off snowflake

Struggling with the numbers, eh? I could not give a fudge.

[Happyhooker]

Piss off muttonbird

[Muttonbird]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I know you're a dribbling moron, but surely even you can work out that 46% of the vote isn't a huge majority.

That it delivers a majority of parliamentary seats speaks to how unfit first past the post is as a means of delivering representative government.

Don't make excuses for your parliamentary process. Own it or change it.

[Torquemada 1420]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I know you're a dribbling moron, but surely even you can work out that 46% of the vote isn't a huge majority.

That it delivers a majority of parliamentary seats speaks to how unfit first past the post is as a means of delivering representative government.

FM, are there still posters who don't have Muttonmong on ignore?

[Muttonbird]

Piss off muttonbird

Are you like the hardest Tory there is here? That's the rumour.

[Muttonbird]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I know you're a dribbling moron, but surely even you can work out that 46% of the vote isn't a huge majority.

That it delivers a majority of parliamentary seats speaks to how unfit first past the post is as a means of delivering representative government.

FM, are there still posters who don't have Muttonmong on ignore?

Says he who celebrated the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.

[Biffer]

Well, someone's in a spammy mood this morning.

[Slick]

Well, someone's in a spammy mood this morning.

Mum must have gone out

[SaintK]

I know you're a dribbling moron, but surely even you can work out that 46% of the vote isn't a huge majority.

That it delivers a majority of parliamentary seats speaks to how unfit first past the post is as a means of delivering representative government.

FM, are there still posters who don't have Muttonmong on ignore?

Says he who celebrated the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.

Just fuck off back under that rock you've been hiding under you dribbling troll

[Muttonbird]

FM, are there still posters who don't have Muttonmong on ignore?

Says he who celebrated the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.

Just fuck off back under that rock you've been hiding under you dribbling troll

A troll? What have I trolled about? Boris fucking Johnson? That's what this thread is about, isn't it?

Can't see why you of all people wouldn't celebrate, in NZ, a proper pandemic response...

[eldanielfire]

FM, are there still posters who don't have Muttonmong on ignore?

Says he who celebrated the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.

Just fuck off back under that rock you've been hiding under you dribbling troll

I don't think this request could be phrased any better.

[JM2K6]

Don't make us cheer for the virus

[Slick]

Don't make us cheer for the virus

[sockwithaticket]

Boris reflects the British position. This man was voted in with a huge and celebrated majority. British people should own that.

I know you're a dribbling moron, but surely even you can work out that 46% of the vote isn't a huge majority.

That it delivers a majority of parliamentary seats speaks to how unfit first past the post is as a means of delivering representative government.

FM, are there still posters who don't have Muttonmong on ignore?

Fair. Remedied.

[dpedin]

Could get interesting then. What they should do is hand it over to the Met and put them on the spot. That would be fun.

Depends what you want to achieve though. Giving any new evidence to the Met straight away will just mean a long delay and no change for Blonde Bumblecunt, instead of 'waiting for the Gray enquiry to report' it will be even harder to discuss as it will be 'its sub judice as its being investigated by the Met'? I am sure Baz Javid will keep his brother informed of what's going on though? Public will move on and impact will be lost. If their aim is to get rid of the Blonde Bumblecunt then I would give evidence to the Pippa Crerar and the Paul Brand and then let them run with it first.

[Muttonbird]

Says he who celebrated the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.

Just fuck off back under that rock you've been hiding under you dribbling troll

I don't think this request could be phrased any better.

And this response by the most boring poster of all time.

[Torquemada 1420]

FM, are there still posters who don't have Muttonmong on ignore?

Says he who celebrated the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.

Just fuck off back under that rock you've been hiding under you dribbling troll

FM, he's still peddling that lie? When he first trotted that out on PR, I pointed out he'd either got confused in his efforts to troll any Fre poster or had simply made it up. He insisted it was me. Even after explaining to him that I was a Greenpeace Frontline member (member number 0001......) which would make it pretty unlikely I'd be cheering for that particular event.

[Muttonbird]

Oh this is great. Torq is now claiming he is a founding member of Greenpeace. Quite the spectacle for his fellow centrists.

[Muttonbird]

Don't make us cheer for the virus

What does a 2250/million death rate compared to a 10/million death rate look like in human terms? Do Brits even care?

[Slick]

Zapp, come on.

[PCPhil]

Don't make us cheer for the virus

What does a 2250/million death rate compared to a 10/million death rate look like in human terms? Do Brits even care?

Muttonbird. I don’t follow any of the history between you and other posters but can you throttle back a bit so it remains an on topic post rather than turning into Planet Rugby shouting match.

[Paddington Bear]

This is an excellent reminder of why this place was set up

[Muttonbird]

Don't make us cheer for the virus

What does a 2250/million death rate compared to a 10/million death rate look like in human terms? Do Brits even care?

Muttonbird. I don’t follow any of the history between you and other posters but can you throttle back a bit so it remains an on topic post rather than turning into Planet Rugby shouting match.

Apologies Phil. My first comment on this thread was that the British people voted for Boris Johnson in a landslide and they should own it. If that is not on topic for this thread, I do not know what is.

[JM2K6]

We've managed to almost completely eliminate bad faith arguments on here while maintaining robust debate and disagreement. Stop fucking it up. Everyone is aware that you aren't looking for serious responses and are just looking to get a rise out of people.

[fishfoodie]

Zapp, come on.

+1

[Biffer]

Zapp, come on.

+1

+2

[C69]

Don't make us cheer for the virus

What does a 2250/million death rate compared to a 10/million death rate look like in human terms? Do Brits even care?

Muttonbird. I don’t follow any of the history between you and other posters but can you throttle back a bit so it remains an on topic post rather than turning into Planet Rugby shouting match.

This

[Muttonbird]

We've managed to almost completely eliminate bad faith arguments on here while maintaining robust debate and disagreement. Stop fucking it up. Everyone is aware that you aren't looking for serious responses and are just looking to get a rise out of people.

You are othering me and others already by saying "we've managed..." Same closed off shite which was promoted at Planet Rugby.

Why is it that only British people are allowed to comment on the disgrace that is the Boris Johnson government? Britain is a powerful country and Boris' doings affects more than middle England alone.