From what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
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Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
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I would say that most supporters most certainly did appreciate what we had but when has that ever mattered !!Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:45 pm Farcical decision. Farcical tournament format. Farcical tournament.
We didn't appreciate what we had in the 00s/early 10s.
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A slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pmFrom what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
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The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm I would say that most REAL supporters most certainly did appreciate what we had but when has that ever mattered !!
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Yeah, with the squad having been as barebones as it was at times there's almost certainly an element of that in play and those who've been consistently available this season have got a lot of rugby under their belts. Gopperth has probably played a lot more than they'd be expecting a 38 year old to. Will probably get an update midweek about the injuries, but the Cov Telegraph team coverage notes that Barbeary and Willis were in game head knocks, there's not much as can be done about that from an S&C perspective.JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:29 pmI'm sure there's an element of having to risk not quite fit players, but what point do you start to worry that there's something fundamentally wrong with the S&C at Wasps?sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:32 pm Wasps team to go tackle Munster
Returns from injury or illness for West, Millar-Mills, Stooke, Robson, Watson, Morris and Spink.
The unavailable list this week:
Biyi Alo, Alfie Barbeary, Malakai Fekitoa, Vaea Fifita, Dan Frost, Jimmy Gopperth, Ben Harris, Robin Hislop, Francois Hougaard, Zach Kibirige, Joe Launchbury, Matteo Minozzi, Will Simonds, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis, Tom Willis.
Bolded players were involved in the Toulouse win last week. Seems like a lot to lose and every time we get some guys coming back from injury, more fall over. Notable exception for Umaga starting his ban.
Probably going to get beat, very few teams rock up at Thomond and win in Europe.
The sheer number of injuries overall definitely needs serious, review though.
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Their rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
This is exactly what happened to Leinster. So EPCR are hoist on their own petard.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
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This is very true.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pmA slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pmFrom what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.
We'll take the revised 0-0 score and 2 pts. in support of the Toulouse position.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:22 pmA slight difference. Leinster was arguing alone. This could be raise the hackles of entirety of Fre club rugby. Europe has no monetary value without T14 clubs. EPCR knows it. LNR knows it.The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:17 pmFrom what I can see here, there is no difference between the ST situation and the absolute disgraceful decision made against Leinster in Dec.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:36 pm Sh*t has hit the fan now.
The LNR has waded in in support of Toulouse, calling the cancellation unfounded and a scandal. Stating that Toulouse had followed all EPCR rules and therefore EPCR has violated its own regs.
This is a big deal. LNR is hinting it will support legal proceedings by Toulouse against EPCR. LNR is the governing body for the French clubs.

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It would be hilarious if Leinster won the thing by being awarded a 28-0 win in the final.Camroc2 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:39 pm We'll take the revised 0-0 score and 2 pts. in support of the Toulouse position.![]()
Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Bollox.Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.
Camroc2 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pmBollox.Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.
It's just too many games. Needs to be elite again or just don't bother.
This. It has to be short and high quality which go hand in hand. The best players simply can't do a work load that includes extended leagues, extended cup comps and internationals. If you want true quality the competitions have to be focused.Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:15 pmCamroc2 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:58 pmBollox.Kawazaki wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:56 pm Europe needs a total rethink. Make it elite again for starters. Just 12 teams in 4x seeded pools of 3. Pool stage; 2x home 2x away matches. Pool winners straight to semi-finals. 6 games maximum. 4 games minimum.
Qualification
England - top 4
France - top 4
URC - top 4
Play in single block after domestic league ends.
Go back to the old 20 team format headed by a competent organisation based in Dublin.
It's just too many games. Needs to be elite again or just don't bother.
Today’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pmTheir rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
That is truly direNeilOJism wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pmToday’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pmTheir rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!
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Kockett's arm is still all fucked up.
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Don't say I didn't warn!
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Stop it, Dommers. That was a naughty little chip for a forward.
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Looks like a try to me.
The best kind of shithouse try.
The best kind of shithouse try.
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It's okay; Castres are reverting to type
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Well that's bollox.
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Marler being a tw*t. Red.
{EDIT} Got of light.
{EDIT} Got of light.
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Needless & stupid ... classic Marler
When carded he just said, "Fair"
He knew all about it.
On a Quins related note ex Stoop player Glen Young has scored two for Edinburgh, running one in from half way. Edinburgh lead Brive 33-3 at HT
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It's all part of his preparation to play as a center, for EnglandC69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:07 pm The new slimmer Dombrant is slowly becoming the new seagulling Tom Croft.

But at least they spelled his name right...NeilOJism wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:39 pmToday’s preview of Quims Castres has a pic of Tommy Allen, with the caption “Tommy Allen starts at fly-half for Saracens”...sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:36 pmTheir rugby coverage hasn't been great for a while, it's breadth and depth read like a couple of interns drew the short straw to do it.duke wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 pm Just seen a reference to Sam Underhill coming back from injury against Leinster on Saturday. The BBC article says he’s coming back after more than a month out. He was injured on 26 December against Gloucester…….
Effing Beeb is getting worse I swear!