The Official English Rugby Thread

[Brazil]

Foley is absolute shit.

[Oxbow]

How is that not a try?

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

Why did they not check that???

[Kawazaki]

How well Is Spencer playing?

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

How well Is Spencer playing?

Kicking well. Targeting Ugo Monye at fullback

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

Sorry, Tyrone Green. His handling confused me.

[sockwithaticket]

That was good. Lovely pass from Allen to set Green away.

[sockwithaticket]

Not sure that final scrum pen should've gone Bath's way, but fair play they've gutsed one out in a low quality game.

[Raggs]

Not sure that final scrum pen should've gone Bath's way, but fair play they've gutsed one out in a low quality game.

Replay did seem to back the refs call to me.

[Brazil]

BT officially entered Barnes and Harrison territory tonight. "A famous win" FFS, it was two second strings playing like people with bells palsy for most of the match, refereed by the bloke who had to do geography when the proper teacher was poorly.

[notfatcat]

BT officially entered Barnes and Harrison territory tonight. "A famous win" FFS, it was two second strings playing like people with bells palsy for most of the match, refereed by the bloke who had to do geography when the proper teacher was poorly.

[JM2K6]

BT genuinely could not be more partisan tonight, they were cheering Bath on.

Shit performance by Quins, Green needs a proper break. Told you our back row would be a problem - not helped by Foley thinking a tackler being on the floor with the tackled player lying on top of him holding the ball to his chest is a fucking penalty, but I'm not sure anyone is surprised that White/Wallace/Taulani is not a good back row. Losing Lamb and Colier so early on hurt us badly.

BT need to understand that Quins are not "so clinical" - Quins make a bucket load of chances but bomb a load too. Same again today, but didn't have the quality to back it up at the end. Add in some piss-weak tackling - David's a flapper, but I'm surprised by Green - and this peformance is exactly what Quins fans feared after the last month or so.

Would be nice to get some players back, mind. Looks very threadbare in the pack now.

[inactionman]

I'm lost for words.

[Lady P]

Well, that was shit. Luckily I had to work through most of it.

[Lady P]

BT genuinely could not be more partisan tonight, they were cheering Bath on.

Shit performance by Quins, Green needs a proper break. Told you our back row would be a problem - not helped by Foley thinking a tackler being on the floor with the tackled player lying on top of him holding the ball to his chest is a fucking penalty, but I'm not sure anyone is surprised that White/Wallace/Taulani is not a good back row. Losing Lamb and Colier so early on hurt us badly.

BT need to understand that Quins are not "so clinical" - Quins make a bucket load of chances but bomb a load too. Same again today, but didn't have the quality to back it up at the end. Add in some piss-weak tackling - David's a flapper, but I'm surprised by Green - and this peformance is exactly what Quins fans feared after the last month or so.

Would be nice to get some players back, mind. Looks very threadbare in the pack now.

Absolutely chronic commentary.

[Raggs]

You've got to cheer on an underdog!

[JM2K6]

You've got to cheer on an underdog!

Not when you're the commentary team.

[Glaston]

Look on the bright side, Nathan Hughes might be an over-payed, out of form, 120kg peaheart who's been dialling it in for years but at least he's only been exposed to a few sessions of Bath's coaches showing him how to play.

Gosh I wonder who got MoM ?

[Raggs]

You've got to cheer on an underdog!

Not when you're the commentary team.

Oh come on, it happens all the time. Just the same that they blow smoke up the arse of a team that have had a good winning run (like Quins were, or Tigers before them, or Exeter, or Sarries etc).

[Kawazaki]

You've got to cheer on an underdog!

Not when you're the commentary team.

Oh come on, it happens all the time. Just the same that they blow smoke up the arse of a team that have had a good winning run (like Quins were, or Tigers before them, or Exeter, or Sarries etc).

JM is embarrassed that his team lost to the worst team in Premiership history.

[duke]

Not when you're the commentary team.

Oh come on, it happens all the time. Just the same that they blow smoke up the arse of a team that have had a good winning run (like Quins were, or Tigers before them, or Exeter, or Sarries etc).

JM is embarrassed that his team lost to the worst team in Premiership history.

I know we’re having a desperate year but that’s a bold statement when there’s the likes of London Welsh in years gone by

[sockwithaticket]

Not when you're the commentary team.

Oh come on, it happens all the time. Just the same that they blow smoke up the arse of a team that have had a good winning run (like Quins were, or Tigers before them, or Exeter, or Sarries etc).

JM is embarrassed that his team lost to the worst team in Premiership history.

As much as we all enjoy Bath being shit I don't think any team will ever sink to a lower level of performance than London Welsh the last time they got promoted.

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

I went to watch Newcastle Gosforth v Quins in the old Courage Div 1 (now the Premiership) sometime in about 1993 or 1994. Gosforth were dire. During the warm-up they spent most of the time in the 22 with the coach saying "get used to this area boys, you're going to be spending a lot of time in here"

Bath are nowhere near that level of crapness

[Kawazaki]

Oh come on, it happens all the time. Just the same that they blow smoke up the arse of a team that have had a good winning run (like Quins were, or Tigers before them, or Exeter, or Sarries etc).

JM is embarrassed that his team lost to the worst team in Premiership history.

I know we’re having a desperate year but that’s a bold statement when there’s the likes of London Welsh in years gone by

I think it's very marginal to be honest. Given the resources available, Bath are the worst in relation to London Welsh imho.

Maybe this result will be the catalyst to kick on?

[Kawazaki]

I went to watch Newcastle Gosforth v Quins in the old Courage Div 1 (now the Premiership) sometime in about 1993 or 1994. Gosforth were dire. During the warm-up they spent most of the time in the 22 with the coach saying "get used to this area boys, you're going to be spending a lot of time in here"

Bath are nowhere near that level of crapness

No they're not. I never said they were.

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

I went to watch Newcastle Gosforth v Quins in the old Courage Div 1 (now the Premiership) sometime in about 1993 or 1994. Gosforth were dire. During the warm-up they spent most of the time in the 22 with the coach saying "get used to this area boys, you're going to be spending a lot of time in here"

Bath are nowhere near that level of crapness

No they're not. I never said they were.

Erm

JM is embarrassed that his team lost to the worst team in Premiership history.

[Kawazaki]

Jesus wept

[SaintK]

I went to watch Newcastle Gosforth v Quins in the old Courage Div 1 (now the Premiership) sometime in about 1993 or 1994. Gosforth were dire. During the warm-up they spent most of the time in the 22 with the coach saying "get used to this area boys, you're going to be spending a lot of time in here"

Bath are nowhere near that level of crapness

No they're not. I never said they were.

Erm

JM is embarrassed that his team lost to the worst team in Premiership history.

Not sure they are the worst anyway
Possibly L Irish and Newcastle when they were yo-yoing. Saints were dreadful when the were relegated some years back

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

Jesus wept

Indeed

[Kawazaki]

Bath would be relegated normally.

I actually thought Spencer looked very good last night, he was the real MoM. His kicking was exceptional, the hang time was ridiculous. Great accurate passing, he's so much better than Youngs.

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

Bath would be relegated normally.

I actually thought Spencer looked very good last night, he was the real MoM. His kicking was exceptional, the hang time was ridiculous. Great accurate passing, he's so much better than Youngs.

Should he be in the England squad in your opinion?

[Kawazaki]

Bath would be relegated normally.

I actually thought Spencer looked very good last night, he was the real MoM. His kicking was exceptional, the hang time was ridiculous. Great accurate passing, he's so much better than Youngs.

Should he be in the England squad in your opinion?

Well he's better than Youngs so on that rationale I'd answer yes. But then I reckon with a few months conditioning and rack pulls to strengthen my lower back, even I'd be able to get the ball away quicker from rucks than Youngs does so it's all moot really.

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

Is that a yes or no?

[Kawazaki]

Is that a yes or no?

Read the fucking words.

[Oh fuck, it's Keith.]

Is that a yes or no?

Read the fucking words.

Charming. I did and they weren't clear. I'll rephrase the question for the hard of reading....

Is Ben Spencer one of the top 3 English scrum halves, yes or no?

[notfatcat]

This is like PR.

[JM2K6]

Not when you're the commentary team.

Oh come on, it happens all the time. Just the same that they blow smoke up the arse of a team that have had a good winning run (like Quins were, or Tigers before them, or Exeter, or Sarries etc).

JM is embarrassed that his team lost to the worst team in Premiership history.

Certainly explains a lot if you've only been watching premiership rugby for a few years.

Not particularly embarrassed, I warned before the game that it would be far more difficult than people were expecting given recent performances and all the missing players - add in some very disruptive injuries early on, some bad luck with the ref, and the fact that Bath have a lot more quality players than several of the relegated teams of years past and it's hardly an unthinkable result.

Quins have been getting out of jail recently and got the rub of the green last week. Bath have shown in patches they're capable of giving better teams than Quins a hard time - Leinster struggled for quite a while against them - and they hammered everything that moved yesterday and really gave it everything, so fair enough.

Raggs: I don't think that's ever extended to literally cheering them on, I.e. all the "go on!" and general Jiffy-commentating-on-Wales behaviour of Goode and co. It was quite odd.

[Raggs]

Certainly explains a lot if you've only been watching premiership rugby for a few years.

Not particularly embarrassed, I warned before the game that it would be far more difficult than people were expecting given recent performances and all the missing players - add in some very disruptive injuries early on, some bad luck with the ref, and the fact that Bath have a lot more quality players than several of the relegated teams of years past and it's hardly an unthinkable result.

Quins have been getting out of jail recently and got the rub of the green last week. Bath have shown in patches they're capable of giving better teams than Quins a hard time - Leinster struggled for quite a while against them - and they hammered everything that moved yesterday and really gave it everything, so fair enough.

Raggs: I don't think that's ever extended to literally cheering them on, I.e. all the "go on!" and general Jiffy-commentating-on-Wales behaviour of Goode and co. It was quite odd.

I think the cheering more reflects just how bad Bath have been. Quins were a million miles from full strength, and it was still close, which sort of makes it all the more "fun" for Bath to grab a win, especially given how Bath have been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and Quins doing the opposite, fairly frequently recently.

[sockwithaticket]

Bath would be relegated normally.

I actually thought Spencer looked very good last night, he was the real MoM. His kicking was exceptional, the hang time was ridiculous. Great accurate passing, he's so much better than Youngs.

Perhaps, perhaps not. We've still got enough fixtures left for them to overtake others. 2 more wins would take them past Worcester.

Now that Diamond's in charge it'll be interesting to see what happens with Worcester, whether they'll use the lack of relegation to do some personnell experimentation a la Borthwick in 2020 and write the rest of the season off or whether he'll galvanise them instantly

[Monk]

Tyrone Green seems to have been played to death. Not a shade of the player he was a while ago.