GogLais wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:34 pm
If you add health care and state pensions you get to about 40%.

GogLais wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:34 pm
If you add health care and state pensions you get to about 40%.
FFS JM. This is caveat emptor. The "game", like it or not, when you go down the path of public sector procuring from the private is no different to any other large organisation business transaction. It's called capitalism: each one is trying to max out what it strips from the other. The duty of those entrusted with the public purse is to ensure that we get the best value for money. By being staffed at all levels with half wits, instead, every single public sector contract runs n x over budget and, all too often, ends up being canned.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:25 pmI assume those noted public sector organisations Accenture, BT, Fujitsu et al share none of the blame here...Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:16 pmThe patient record system were somewhere between £10bn and £12bn was toileted. And that was a decade ago and makes the PPE numbers look a little dull..
It was one of those projects where a shit-ton of blame is to be had - the NHS, the cabinet, the private companies they outsourced to, pretty much everything was a fuckup. But you can point to shit-tons of big projects in the private sector that end up exactly the same way.
Another adviser to Boris Johnson has reportedly quit after a day of departures dubbed the “meltdown in Downing Street”.
Elena Narozanski, a special adviser to the prime minister on women and equalities, Department for Culture, Media and Sport, and extremism, has resigned, according to Paul Goodman, the editor of Conservative Home.
This appears to be a case of the ships leaving the sinking rat.SaintK wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:13 am Just the one senior aide resigned so far this morningAnother adviser to Boris Johnson has reportedly quit after a day of departures dubbed the “meltdown in Downing Street”.
Elena Narozanski, a special adviser to the prime minister on women and equalities, Department for Culture, Media and Sport, and extremism, has resigned, according to Paul Goodman, the editor of Conservative Home.
Unless you credit the Tory spin that it's all part of Boris's clear out - all according to plan.Lobby wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:21 amThis appears to be a case of the ships leaving the sinking rat.SaintK wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:13 am Just the one senior aide resigned so far this morningAnother adviser to Boris Johnson has reportedly quit after a day of departures dubbed the “meltdown in Downing Street”.
Elena Narozanski, a special adviser to the prime minister on women and equalities, Department for Culture, Media and Sport, and extremism, has resigned, according to Paul Goodman, the editor of Conservative Home.
So much for not making any hasty decisions, until we see the full Sue Gray report .....tabascoboy wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:26 amUnless you credit the Tory spin that it's all part of Boris's clear out - all according to plan.
I think only his hardcore supporters are going to be taken in by that now.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:26 amUnless you credit the Tory spin that it's all part of Boris's clear out - all according to plan.
Speaker of the house will be really, really cross about that. I see a stern telling off in his most kindly school master voice at a time when no one will be listening ore viewing proceedings and no-one who matters from Con office will be arsed to turn up.
Anna Firth wins Southend West by-election held after David Amess' killing
Tory candidate paid tribute to Labour and the Lib Dems who chose not to contest the seat out of respect for Amess
Well since the "L" word seems to be verboten, can they just make pointed reference to "false claims"?PCPhil wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 pm Speaker of the house will be really, really cross about that. I see a stern telling off in his most kindly school master voice at a time when no one will be listening ore viewing proceedings and no-one who matters from Con office will be arsed to turn up.
Now look, Alexander, what have you done to upset people this time? It really does reflect poorly on your character. I suggest you have a good, long think about it and we'll see how things are tomorrow, eh?PCPhil wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 pmSpeaker of the house will be really, really cross about that. I see a stern telling off in his most kindly school master voice at a time when no one will be listening ore viewing proceedings and no-one who matters from Con office will be arsed to turn up.
It's a clear play to move from Boris to Sunak, who was her husband's best man. She's a snake just like him. Vile, dangerous person.I like neeps wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:18 pmIt's hard to believe she didn't realise he was always a power hungry, immoral, pos. She jumped before she was pushed to salvage some dignity.Lobby wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:15 pmI suspect that, when you’ve worked for someone for 14 years, it might be difficult to admit that that person is a despicable shit and always has been.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:43 pm
Clearly he's not a better man than she pretends to think. Even now they're prostrating themselves in the face of his "extraordinary abilities" while he does his level best to prove himself a worse man than even his detractors claim.
Presumably as a supplement.Lobby wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week
Wonder if this will become a regular feature?
@russinchesire does an amusing, if depressing weekly round up of tory lies over on twitterGogLais wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:43 pmPresumably as a supplement.Lobby wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week
Wonder if this will become a regular feature?
What made you stop voting Tory?Happyhooker wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:50 pm@russinchesire does an amusing, if depressing weekly round up of tory lies over on twitterGogLais wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:43 pmPresumably as a supplement.Lobby wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week
Wonder if this will become a regular feature?
What made you stop voting Tory?Happyhooker wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:50 pm@russinchesire does an amusing, if depressing weekly round up of tory lies over on twitterGogLais wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:43 pmPresumably as a supplement.Lobby wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm I see the Guardian have totted up this week’s lies from the PM.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -this-week
Wonder if this will become a regular feature?
Not really, it was a simple playfulHappyhooker wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:08 pm I wanted to be cool and repeat myself like the lefties??
I think you may have me mixed up with someone else.
No I have notC69 wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:51 pmNot really, it was a simple playfulHappyhooker wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:08 pm I wanted to be cool and repeat myself like the lefties??
I think you may have me mixed up with someone else.
"have you stopped beating your wife?"
type question
Christ alive, what kind of parallel universe do these types live in where that could possibly be true?Levelling Up Secretary Michael Gove is the latest minister to defend Boris Johnson, as resignations and letters of no confidence rock his premiership.
Asked if the prime minister's team is in disarray, Gove tells reporters in Sunderland that Johnson "wanted" change and that we are "seeing that change now".
When asked about the loss of support in the PM by the leader of the Conservative Group on Sunderland Council, he says "we don't ignore, we nurture the grassroots".
Gove also insists the "best thing for the country is for the PM to continue".
Also the psychedelic candidate got more votes than UKIP
Boris Johnson: Former minister joins calls for PM to resign
Another Conservative MP has called for Boris Johnson to resign as the turmoil at 10 Downing Street continues.
Former minister Nick Gibb is the latest Tory to submit a letter of no confidence in the prime minister.
He said his constituents were furious that No 10 had been "flagrantly disregarding" the Covid rules they set.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror reports a photograph of Mr Johnson holding a beer at a birthday gathering has been handed to police investigating Covid breaches.
The paper said the picture is one of 300 submitted to the Metropolitan Police investigation into 12 alleged gatherings and is thought to have been taken by the PM's official photographer, who is funded by the taxpayer.
It says it shows the prime minister holding a can of beer at an event in No 10's Cabinet Room in June 2020, alongside Chancellor Rishi Sunak, who was holding a soft drink.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60268378
Do they honestly think that sending her out to defend him does any good?Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 am my thought too, definitely shagging - he's making the coffee and she's still pretty drunk
She said:
So did he tell the truth when he quoted that? Yes, he told the truth as it was given to him.”
Dorries added: “The prime minister does tell the truth.”
I can personally tell you that the prime minister, when he stands at the despatch box and makes quotes like the one you just quoted, is because the researchers and his advisers will have given him that quote, and that’s ... and he was truthful, to the best of his knowledge, when he made that quote,” she said.
‘Charlie’ does things to your brain.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:22 pmChrist alive, what kind of parallel universe do these types live in where that could possibly be true?Levelling Up Secretary Michael Gove is the latest minister to defend Boris Johnson, as resignations and letters of no confidence rock his premiership.
Asked if the prime minister's team is in disarray, Gove tells reporters in Sunderland that Johnson "wanted" change and that we are "seeing that change now".
When asked about the loss of support in the PM by the leader of the Conservative Group on Sunderland Council, he says "we don't ignore, we nurture the grassroots".
Gove also insists the "best thing for the country is for the PM to continue".
One can read too much into things but I wondered why he said 24 hours specifically. Do we know their whereabouts at the time?Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 am my thought too, definitely shagging - he's making the coffee and she's still pretty drunk
The cabinet descended into rancour over Boris Johnson’s future last night after both Sajid Javid and Rishi Sunak rebuked the prime minister.
One cabinet minister called for Johnson to dismiss Sunak, and two others accused the chancellor of being “on manoeuvres” after he criticised the prime minister for a personal attack on Sir Keir Starmer.
I looked her up on Wiki and saw this:SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:44 amDo they honestly think that sending her out to defend him does any good?
She said:
So did he tell the truth when he quoted that? Yes, he told the truth as it was given to him.”
Dorries added: “The prime minister does tell the truth.”
I can personally tell you that the prime minister, when he stands at the despatch box and makes quotes like the one you just quoted, is because the researchers and his advisers will have given him that quote, and that’s ... and he was truthful, to the best of his knowledge, when he made that quote,” she said.
Her limited intellect has helped popularise the phrase "thick as a Boxing Day turd".