France v Ireland 6N Thread

[Uncle fester]

About a metre forward as we suspected at the time.

[JM2K6]

About a metre forward as we suspected at the time.

Looks flat to me, and he's clearly trying to pass backwards. "A metre forward" doesn't make any sense with the forward pass law anyway.

[Uncle fester]

Nah it's forward leaving his hands.

[TheFrog]

Nah it's forward leaving his hands.

So you think Guiness Six Nations posted this with the cynical purpose of undermining the French win, while pretending to be in awe at the move?

[JM2K6]

Nah it's forward leaving his hands.

Even with momentum it barely travels forward across the pitch. Really nothing wrong with it.

[fishfoodie]

Nah it's forward leaving his hands.

Even with momentum it barely travels forward across the pitch. Really nothing wrong with it.

Quoted, for later re-use

[Slick]

Nah it's forward leaving his hands.

So you think Guiness Six Nations posted this with the cynical purpose of undermining the French win, while pretending to be in awe at the move?

Not sure you fully understand “Irish”

[fishfoodie]

Nah it's forward leaving his hands.

So you think Guiness Six Nations posted this with the cynical purpose of undermining the French win, while pretending to be in awe at the move?

Not sure you fully understand “Irish”

One thing the Scots & Irish share, is the ability to nurse a grievance; real or imagined !

If we meet the French again in the RWC, I'd expect this one to make a re-appearance then.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

So you think Guiness Six Nations posted this with the cynical purpose of undermining the French win, while pretending to be in awe at the move?

Not sure you fully understand “Irish”

One thing the Scots & Irish share, is the ability to nurse a grievance; real or imagined !

If we meet the French again in the RWC, I'd expect this one to make a re-appearance then.

Now that's forward looking

[Slick]

So you think Guiness Six Nations posted this with the cynical purpose of undermining the French win, while pretending to be in awe at the move?

Not sure you fully understand “Irish”

One thing the Scots & Irish share, is the ability to nurse a grievance; real or imagined !

If we meet the French again in the RWC, I'd expect this one to make a re-appearance then.

not sure we come close to you on that one really.

Although sadly not at rugby either at the moment

[fishfoodie]

Not sure you fully understand “Irish”

One thing the Scots & Irish share, is the ability to nurse a grievance; real or imagined !

If we meet the French again in the RWC, I'd expect this one to make a re-appearance then.

not sure we come close to you on that one really.

Although sadly not at rugby either at the moment

Years ago I heard a colleague say; "Never Trust a Campbell !". I hadn't heard it before, so did some research, & it rang a lot of familiar bells.

Scotland has structural issues that aren't easy to solve; but at least you're heading on the right trajectory; unlike the Welsh, who are on the opposite track.

[JM2K6]

Nah it's forward leaving his hands.

Even with momentum it barely travels forward across the pitch. Really nothing wrong with it.

Quoted, for later re-use

Good idea. If I ever change my mind and say that pass was forward, you can quote that comment back to me.

[Uncle fester]

Or if England happen to lose a key match with a "barely forward" pass being the difference between the teams.

[JM2K6]

Oh - so you'd use my opinion on this pass to argue against my opinion on a totally different one?

That's a little weird. Take each event on its own merits. No such thing as two identical events on a rugby field.

Also I'm not saying it's barely forward. I'm saying it's not obviously a forward pass under the laws of the game. The fact that it drifts forward with momentum is irrelevant - a huge percentage of passes do that in every game.

[ASMO]

Was a totally flat pass, nothing to see here, move on

[Torquemada 1420]

Why am I not surprised.

Torque would tell you Ntamack had no idea what he was doing. It was lucky Dupont was inside.

You are hopeless. I had already covered this.... and the AB try. One swallow does not a Summer make. These are pro rugby players so you should expect them to get most things right most of the time. Plus this was clearly a rehearsed move. The issue I have with Ntamack is his decision making when stuff is not clearly pre-ordained.

[Torquemada 1420]

Interesting because many pundits expressed their admiration for Ntamack's management of the game again after the Irish match.


As far as I am concerned however, the current weak link is Jalibert. Thankfully, his kicking off the tee is world class, but so far, I am still not convinced he is at the right level for an international fullback. We were lucky that the ref decided to wrap him in wool and penalised an Irish player for something that wasn't really a fault in my view. It made life easier under the high ball for Jalibert who had been wobbly.

I assume you mean Jaminet and not Jalibert? In which case, yes, he does look vulnerable under a high ball. However, name me one French FB since Sadourny who did not? Only Dulin for a short period a year plus back suddenly looked like he could catch a ball.......... before reverting to type this season. The irony here is that if Jaminet was not in the side, there is NO way Ntamack could be selected because his dead ball kicking simply isn't good enough (France would have lost on Saturday if Ntamack was the kicker). Which is why Ramos does it for Toulouse. And that's another irony, with Jaminet going to ST, Ramos looks like he will be spending much time riding the pine.

FWIW, Jaminet is only 22/23, was playing Pro2 until last season and is in one of the weakest sides in T14. To have got to where he is is miraculous**. He has time to improve. Lots. And anyway, there is no better option.

** I have to concede kudos to the coaching staff for having the nous/guts to select him at all. I certainly did not see that coming even after his stellar performances in Pro2.

Yes I meant Jaminet sorry.

1 try against Italy, 1 try against Ireland
4 high kicks not fielded safely
2/3 players on his outside forgotten when he tried to score his try in the dying minutes of his game.
Running ahead of Dupont against New Zealand, after the Ntamack counter-attack from our own in-goal when he should have been in support to help finish the move...


I think he still needs to progress a lot. Happy that we stick with him but he is the weak link in the team today.

You haven't stated what you think the alternative is. And if you dare to say Ramos......

[TheFrog]

You haven't stated what you think the alternative is. And if you dare to say Ramos......

I wrote that I am happy to stick with him for now, to give him time to learn.

But I start to doubt his rugby IQ.