6 Nations. But not as we know it

[Margin__Walker]

Possibly

[GogLais]

Well they can get stuffed. The 6N is effectively the European championship. This is like introducing some random African or whatever team into the football European Cup, or whatever they call it now.

[Kawazaki]

That would be an absolute disgrace.

I'd hope fans world boycott the South Africa matches if true.

It would destroy the tournament.

[Grandpa]

Haven't SA already committed to the RC till 2030?

[tc27]

Fucking awful idea.

Please fuck of with this shit.

[Hugo]

That would be an absolute disgrace.

I'd hope fans world boycott the South Africa matches if true.

It would destroy the tournament.

+1.

[sockwithaticket]

Sadly, I think the audience of largely casual rugby fans probably won't care. Some might grumble a bit, but it'll pass.

I would certainly boycott any SA games.

[JM2K6]

So much for player welfare.

[Slick]

Haven't SA already committed to the RC till 2030?

Only the next 3 years, apparently.

I genuinely think that would be it for me and rugby, at least pro rugby. As a Scotland supporter what's the point in being in a tournament we realistically will never win. I'm not that interested in pro club rugby, not that interested in Autumn internationals or summer tours, and not really that interested in the World Cup, but the 6N is, and always has been, a huge part of my life. Fuck them all.

[OomStruisbaai]

No need to start a new thread. I told you this a looooonnnnggg time ago.

https://www.notplanetrugby.com/viewtopi ... &start=600

[clydecloggie]

Ah, but this thread doesn't have the Saffer bullshit in it, making it a much better place.

Just like the 6 Nations, really.

Absolutely terrible idea. I've largely stopped watching cricket because of its closed-shop nature - honestly don't care about the Ashes etc. as it seems to come around every few months. Would be a shame if rugby went down the same road.

[average joe]

Haven't SA already committed to the RC till 2030?

Only the next 3 years, apparently.

I genuinely think that would be it for me and rugby, at least pro rugby. As a Scotland supporter what's the point in being in a tournament we realistically will never win. I'm not that interested in pro club rugby, not that interested in Autumn internationals or summer tours, and not really that interested in the World Cup, but the 6N is, and always has been, a huge part of my life. Fuck them all.

Good riddance, we don't need negative nancies and fair weather fans in our new comp.

[assfly]

To be fair, I think it's a terrible idea. I'd much rather we maintain the current setup and play Australia and New Zealand every year and we do our traditional EOYT to Europe.

[SaintK]

Haven't SA already committed to the RC till 2030?

Only the next 3 years, apparently.

I genuinely think that would be it for me and rugby, at least pro rugby. As a Scotland supporter what's the point in being in a tournament we realistically will never win. I'm not that interested in pro club rugby, not that interested in Autumn internationals or summer tours, and not really that interested in the World Cup, but the 6N is, and always has been, a huge part of my life. Fuck them all.

Good riddance, we don't need negative nancies and fair weather fans in our new comp.

A fine example of why we don't want you in our comp

[sockwithaticket]

Only the next 3 years, apparently.

I genuinely think that would be it for me and rugby, at least pro rugby. As a Scotland supporter what's the point in being in a tournament we realistically will never win. I'm not that interested in pro club rugby, not that interested in Autumn internationals or summer tours, and not really that interested in the World Cup, but the 6N is, and always has been, a huge part of my life. Fuck them all.

Good riddance, we don't need negative nancies and fair weather fans in our new comp.

A fine example of why we don't want you in our comp

I believe that may be the famed South African humour at work. At least I hope it is, otherwise

[Paddington Bear]

Sad but probably inevitable that it would get floated at some point, money talks. Would say that there's a long way from this to it being implemented - see the Super League in football.

[westport]

Good riddance, we don't need negative nancies and fair weather fans in our new comp.

A fine example of why we don't want you in our comp

I believe that may be the famed South African humour at work. At least I hope it is, otherwise

Humour and South African in the same sentence, now that is a first.

[Begbie]

What a shite idea, no thanks.

[handyman]

If it happens, it will hurt NZ badly.

[Grandpa]

If it happens, it will hurt NZ badly.

Very badly.. along with Australia and Argentina. They'd be forced into embracing Japan to survive... and while it may work economically, the rugby will be as loose as a scared goose...

[JM2K6]

If it happens, it'll hurt the players badly. Player welfare be damned, eh.

It'll also massively devalue South African players in England, which is good and bad.

[handyman]

If it happens, it will hurt NZ badly.

Very badly.. along with Australia and Argentina. They'd be forced into embracing Japan to survive... and while it may work economically, the rugby will be as loose as a scared goose...

Exactly.

[Slick]

Sad but probably inevitable that it would get floated at some point, money talks. Would say that there's a long way from this to it being implemented - see the Super League in football.

Yeah. Underneath the headline of the report I read it decided to mention the fact that the 6N pretty much said no 3 months ago and reiterated that stance at the start of the 6N

[FalseBayFC]

Howdie fellow Europeans!

[Happyhooker]

Howdie fellow Europeans!

Fuck off, we're full

[inactionman]

Can we have Argentina instead please? I quite fancy an away trip to Buenos Aires.

In all seriousness, no, this is what autumn internationals are for.

[Tichtheid]

If it's all about the money, how long until the money starts whispering, "Why don't we have New Zealand in this competition? Surely everyone wants to see the best teams playing?"

Who gets the boot then, Scotland?

[inactionman]

If it's all about the money, how long until the money starts whispering, "Why don't we have New Zealand in this competition? Surely everyone wants to see the best teams playing?"

Who gets the boot then, Scotland?

Let's not be too hasty, it might be Wales.

[Slick]

If it's all about the money, how long until the money starts whispering, "Why don't we have New Zealand in this competition? Surely everyone wants to see the best teams playing?"

Who gets the boot then, Scotland?

Let's not be too hasty, it might be Wales.

I'd be quite happy for England to go off and form a league with those big boys and leave the rest of us to enjoy some quality weekends.

[Begbie]

I wish Germany would hurry up and become competitive. A rugby weekend in Munich would be braw.

[inactionman]

If it's all about the money, how long until the money starts whispering, "Why don't we have New Zealand in this competition? Surely everyone wants to see the best teams playing?"

Who gets the boot then, Scotland?

Let's not be too hasty, it might be Wales.

I'd be quite happy for England to go off and form a league with those big boys and leave the rest of us to enjoy some quality weekends.

Curious reply. I can only assume you've been stung by the £6.50 pints at HQ?

[FalseBayFC]

Awful idea when you see the type of rugby SA offers plus the money they won’t bring .

Doesn’t World Rugby want to add a world clubs championship also or some like that?

The 5 Nations will be better, with a duration of 4 weeks with one team resting each weekend.

Well then why do world clubs import South Africans in such huge numbers? I'd love to stay in the Rugby Championship with NZ and Aus. But big money has decided and it looks inevitable that we'll be joining Scotland as the second African team in the 6N.

[Slick]

Let's not be too hasty, it might be Wales.

I'd be quite happy for England to go off and form a league with those big boys and leave the rest of us to enjoy some quality weekends.

Curious reply. I can only assume you've been stung by the £6.50 pints at HQ?

It's that and the thunderous braying.

Nah, I have had some of my best rugby days at Twickers when I lived down there in all seriousness, but it is my least favourite of the 6N fixtures to travel too as an away supporter.

[inactionman]

I'd be quite happy for England to go off and form a league with those big boys and leave the rest of us to enjoy some quality weekends.

Curious reply. I can only assume you've been stung by the £6.50 pints at HQ?

It's that and the thunderous braying.

Nah, I have had some of my best rugby days at Twickers when I lived down there in all seriousness, but it is my least favourite of the 6N fixtures to travel too as an away supporter.

I'm a bit surprised by that, it's not really a game that's attracted the sneering dickheads in the way football tends to. Appreciate the location, if nothing else, is painful for anyone who has to travel any significant way.

I've not actually had many awaydays - mostly got my England home games through old club which took up bulk of my day passes - but on England-Wales matchdays we got an influx of Welsh clowns in Bath who just seemed hell-bent on jeering and starting fights. Unsurprisingly I never enjoyed that, took all the fun and - as you can imagine - bonhomie right out of it. Sad part was there would be a bunch of lads from south Wales who just came for nice day out in a rugby-focused town and were very good value, leaving me wondering why they all couldn't be like that. Never had any trouble with Welsh fans at Twickenham, boisterous but very good natured. It's all context, I suppose.

[Sards]

I have never agreed with it. The URC is an education in what lies in store. I mean really.
Sadly there are South African franchises that have sore bums from the anal beating they have taken from New Zealand teams and that is where the most interest in this has been generated. For the rest of us who enjoy the challenge and have taken it to the New Zealand teams its going to be a huge loss. How many South African franchises have beaten the Crusaders in Christchurch. How many franchises have traveled to New Zealand and come back with a positive win ratio.
I can imagine that this is how Wales or Scotland might feel after a few years of beatings. Looking for an easier competition instead of manning the vok up and getting stuck in.
Also I am so sick and tired of playing other Saffer unions month in and month out. We have been sold out.

[JM2K6]

Awful idea when you see the type of rugby SA offers plus the money they won’t bring .

Doesn’t World Rugby want to add a world clubs championship also or some like that?

The 5 Nations will be better, with a duration of 4 weeks with one team resting each weekend.

Well then why do world clubs import South Africans in such huge numbers? I'd love to stay in the Rugby Championship with NZ and Aus. But big money has decided and it looks inevitable that we'll be joining Scotland as the second African team in the 6N.

They're cheap, they're massive, and they're available for almost the entire season.

[sockwithaticket]

Awful idea when you see the type of rugby SA offers plus the money they won’t bring .

Doesn’t World Rugby want to add a world clubs championship also or some like that?

The 5 Nations will be better, with a duration of 4 weeks with one team resting each weekend.

Well then why do world clubs import South Africans in such huge numbers? I'd love to stay in the Rugby Championship with NZ and Aus. But big money has decided and it looks inevitable that we'll be joining Scotland as the second African team in the 6N.

Because it's your coaching and national mindset about how to play that's at fault, not the raw athletic merits of your players. Get them into coaching set ups that ask them to do more than just run into people or who partner them up with other players who do more than that and rugby that isn't the equivalent of eye cancer can be played. Also bear in mind that most clubs rarely have more than a handful of South Africans, there might be a lot of them sprinkled among the leagues in total, but they're not so sought after that clubs completely overhaul their rosters (Sale being a notable exception).

Plus what the others said about relative cheapness and availability during the season.

[Paddington Bear]

Curious reply. I can only assume you've been stung by the £6.50 pints at HQ?

It's that and the thunderous braying.

Nah, I have had some of my best rugby days at Twickers when I lived down there in all seriousness, but it is my least favourite of the 6N fixtures to travel too as an away supporter.

I'm a bit surprised by that, it's not really a game that's attracted the sneering dickheads in the way football tends to. Appreciate the location, if nothing else, is painful for anyone who has to travel any significant way.

I've not actually had many awaydays - mostly got my England home games through old club which took up bulk of my day passes - but on England-Wales matchdays we got an influx of Welsh clowns in Bath who just seemed hell-bent on jeering and starting fights. Unsurprisingly I never enjoyed that, took all the fun and - as you can imagine - bonhomie right out of it. Sad part was there would be a bunch of lads from south Wales who just came for nice day out in a rugby-focused town and were very good value, leaving me wondering why they all couldn't be like that. Never had any trouble with Welsh fans at Twickenham, boisterous but very good natured. It's all context, I suppose.

The sense I always have is Twickenham is a game in a big city without novelty for Brits. Edinburgh/Cardiff are cities of a size where the matchday takes over the city. London/Paris/Rome aren't. Rome and Paris have the excitement of being 'properly' away with a very different culture and all that entails. SdF is fine but is in a crap part of town with nowhere to drink round it. Still, being away in Paris has it's own charms. Stadio Olimpico is in the middle of absolutely nowhere but who complains about going to Rome? Etc etc.

Fwiw I enjoy matchdays at Twickenham but there's no point expecting London to shut down for the rugby. There's a small area of town that does and if you stay round there you're among people who (generally) know the sport and have interest in the game.

[FalseBayFC]

Oh well, I'm looking forward to it. Be great to fly to Europe for a 6 Nations tour. We can be the pantomime villains of the tournament. It'll be great! Just you watch.

[SaintK]

Oh well, I'm looking forward to it. Be great to fly to Europe for a 6 Nations tour. We can be the pantomime villains of the tournament. It'll be great! Just you watch.

Can SA afford to buy themselves in
The 6N is owned by a limited company of which all the current members are shareholders