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Watching Super Rugby I am getting deja vu... looks like last year.. and the year before that... still a lack of intensity at the breakdown. Unless this changes I can't see the All Blacks getting any better at it either. And we won't have the SA'n super sides to come in and mix it up with us...

Watching France v Wales tonight.. and it's like a different sport.
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Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:25 pm Watching Super Rugby I am getting deja vu... looks like last year.. and the year before that... still a lack of intensity at the breakdown. Unless this changes I can't see the All Blacks getting any better at it either. And we won't have the SA'n super sides to come in and mix it up with us...

Watching France v Wales tonight.. and it's like a different sport.
If France win by 16 or more points they'll leapfrog (sorry) the ABs into 2nd place in the rankings.

Obviously they've been a better team than the ABs for some time, anyway.
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:53 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:25 pm Watching Super Rugby I am getting deja vu... looks like last year.. and the year before that... still a lack of intensity at the breakdown. Unless this changes I can't see the All Blacks getting any better at it either. And we won't have the SA'n super sides to come in and mix it up with us...

Watching France v Wales tonight.. and it's like a different sport.
If France win by 16 or more points they'll leapfrog (sorry) the ABs into 2nd place in the rankings.

Obviously they've been a better team than the ABs for some time, anyway.
Likely deserve it...

I've just had an uncomfortable thought... imagine if the All Blacks win the world cup... it could happen.. they get a good draw... and defy Foster to play some proper rugby to win the semi and final...

Then Foster is rewarded with 4 more years... :shock:
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I forgot about the Test...

nervously checks Tribe for score.

C'mon the LeapFrogs :thumbup:
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Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:25 pm Watching Super Rugby I am getting deja vu... looks like last year.. and the year before that... still a lack of intensity at the breakdown. Unless this changes I can't see the All Blacks getting any better at it either. And we won't have the SA'n super sides to come in and mix it up with us...

Watching France v Wales tonight.. and it's like a different sport.
I agree Grandpa, I think our super teams are nowhere near as good in intensity,or skill level as a few years back, and have doesn't help we only play Aussie teams aprt from each other. I have thought Premiership etc up North has surpassed super in standards, will make it awful hard when we trying to get ABs ready for test rugby.
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Dan54 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:39 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:25 pm Watching Super Rugby I am getting deja vu... looks like last year.. and the year before that... still a lack of intensity at the breakdown. Unless this changes I can't see the All Blacks getting any better at it either. And we won't have the SA'n super sides to come in and mix it up with us...

Watching France v Wales tonight.. and it's like a different sport.
I agree Grandpa, I think our super teams are nowhere near as good in intensity,or skill level as a few years back, and have doesn't help we only play Aussie teams aprt from each other. I have thought Premiership etc up North has surpassed super in standards, will make it awful hard when we trying to get ABs ready for test rugby.
Shall we start a petition on Change.org?

NZ Super Rugby must have at least 3 people at all rucks!
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Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:57 pm
Dan54 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:39 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:25 pm Watching Super Rugby I am getting deja vu... looks like last year.. and the year before that... still a lack of intensity at the breakdown. Unless this changes I can't see the All Blacks getting any better at it either. And we won't have the SA'n super sides to come in and mix it up with us...

Watching France v Wales tonight.. and it's like a different sport.
I agree Grandpa, I think our super teams are nowhere near as good in intensity,or skill level as a few years back, and have doesn't help we only play Aussie teams aprt from each other. I have thought Premiership etc up North has surpassed super in standards, will make it awful hard when we trying to get ABs ready for test rugby.
Shall we start a petition on Change.org?

NZ Super Rugby must have at least 3 people at all rucks!

Guys, it's only 3 weeks in. Calm yourselves.
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Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:57 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:53 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:25 pm Watching Super Rugby I am getting deja vu... looks like last year.. and the year before that... still a lack of intensity at the breakdown. Unless this changes I can't see the All Blacks getting any better at it either. And we won't have the SA'n super sides to come in and mix it up with us...

Watching France v Wales tonight.. and it's like a different sport.
If France win by 16 or more points they'll leapfrog (sorry) the ABs into 2nd place in the rankings.

Obviously they've been a better team than the ABs for some time, anyway.
Likely deserve it...

I've just had an uncomfortable thought... imagine if the All Blacks win the world cup... it could happen.. they get a good draw... and defy Foster to play some proper rugby to win the semi and final...

Then Foster is rewarded with 4 more years... :shock:
I'm not sure that first part is a bad thing.
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Saders hosting the Chiefs tonight. Reckon this could be quite a spicy battle up front.


Crusaders: 1-Joe Moody, 2-Codie Taylor, 3-Fletcher Newell, 4-Scott Barrett, 5-Samuel Whitelock, 6-Ethan Blackadder, 7-Tom Christie, 8-Pablo Matera, 9-Bryn Hall, 10-Richie Mo’unga, 11-Leicester Fainga’anuku, 12-David Havili, 13-Braydon Ennor, 14-Sevu Reece, 15-Will Jordan

Reserves: 16-Brodie McAlister, 17-George Bower, 18-Tamaiti Williams, 19-Mitch Dunshea, 20-Cullen Grace, 21-Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, 22-Fergus Burke, 23-George Bridge

Chiefs: 1-Aidan Ross, 2-Samisoni Taukei’aho, 3-Angus Ta’avao, 4-Tupou Vaa'i, 5-Brodie Retallick, 6-Kaylum Boshier, 7-Sam Cane, 8-Pita Gus Sowakula, 9-Xavier Roe, 10-Bryn Gatland, 11-Etene Nanai-Seturo, 12-Quinn Tupaea, 13-Anton Lienert-Brown, 14-Shaun Stevenson, 15-Emoni Narawa

Reserves: 16-Bradley Slater, 17-Ollie Norris, 18-George Dyer, 19-Naitoa Ah Kuoi, 20-Tom Florence/Laghlan McWhannell, 21-Cortez Ratima, 22-Rivez Reihana, 23-Rameka Pohipi
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There have been late changes to both sides.
The Crusaders and Chiefs have made late changes to their teams ahead of the Super Rugby Pacific match in Christchurch on Saturday night.

The Crusaders have lost captain and lock Scott Barrett from the starting line-up. Brodie McAlister, Tamaiti Williams and Mitch Dunshea have also been removed from the reserves.

All been forced to withdraw on “medical grounds’’, a Crusaders spokesperson said.

Hooker Codie Taylor has been named skipper in the absence of Barrett, who has been replaced by Quinten Strange in the starting XV.

On the bench Shilo Klein has replaced hooker McAlister and prop Abrahan Pole has been recruited to fill the vacancy created by Williams’ departure. George Bower has been listed in the No 18 jersey, with Pole taking Bower's No 17.

Dominic Gardiner will provide cover at lock following the promotion of Strange to the run-on team.

The Chiefs have replaced left wing Etene Nanai-Seturo with Alex Nankivell for an undisclosed reason.

Tom Florence has been confirmed to be on the bench in the No 20 jersey.
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Nice try to Shaun Stevenson following 2 quick penalties.

7 to 3 - 15 minutes gone
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Decent move.

8-7 to the Crusaders.
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Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:28 am Decent move.

8-7 to the Crusaders.
A very welcome bit of innovative play
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Who is this lead commentator? Must be based in CHCH, he does a lot of Southland games.
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Reece’s lid. What a fucking bellend.
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11-10. That last passage was some play.
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Chiefs keeping the Saders outside backs pretty quiet so far.
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Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:50 am 11-10. That last passage was some play.
It was although ruined for both sides by bad handling at the end. Very poor from Blackadder.
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Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:50 am 11-10. That last passage was some play.
Who to?
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:57 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:50 am 11-10. That last passage was some play.
It was although ruined for both sides by bad handling at the end. Very poor from Blackadder.
He was under a fair bit of pressure from defenders.
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Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:57 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:50 am 11-10. That last passage was some play.
Who to?
The good guys.
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Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:57 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:57 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:50 am 11-10. That last passage was some play.
It was although ruined for both sides by bad handling at the end. Very poor from Blackadder.
He was under a fair bit of pressure from defenders.
Sowakula did brilliantly to get back and get his hand in to dislodge the ball
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I’m at my Chiefs supporting mates place for this.

There’s been quite a few Tuis. Sledging game is strong.

Goldie is getting to be as bad as Marshall.

Oh… entertaining game. Decent match up between these two teams. Saders probably shade it but I dunno… hard to pick a winner.
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Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:58 am
Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:57 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:50 am 11-10. That last passage was some play.
Who to?
The good guys.
To be fair, they usually are the good guys in terms of playing the game.
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95% picks for the Saders in the FR seems overly certain. Average pick is Saders to win by 10+.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:59 am I’m at my Chiefs supporting mates place for this.

There’s been quite a few Tuis. Sledging game is strong.

Goldie is getting to be as bad as Marshall.

Oh… entertaining game. Decent match up between these two teams. Saders probably shade it but I dunno… hard to pick a winner.
Tui would be a huge impetus to be a no show.
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Just woke up. Switched on. Sounds like a close one.
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Ymx wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:01 am Just woke up. Switched on. Sounds like a close one.
Stay with it, the second half could be really exciting
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Blackadder is covering a phenomenal amount of ground
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Brilliant. Just proves that you don't have to be perfect but patience and keeping the ball alive will break the defence in the end.
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Another very good shift from Moody. He's looking in fine form.
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Great start to the half. This is a step up from last nights game.
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Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:12 am Blackadder is covering a phenomenal amount of ground
And runs hard into everything. I’m liking more and more about him as a long-term AB prospect.
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How was Saders' player not offside at that turnover in front of the posts?
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Ahhh. And there is the opposite from what I said earlier. Lost patience and kicked it away.
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Maybe Chiefs should have taken the pens after all?
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There has been some outstanding defence from the Crusaders to withstand the Chiefs so far.

Edit: they are in, but it took some doing.
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Finally! Saders should have had yellow by now too.
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Fuck we deserved that one. And with so many players out - and away from home.

Chuffed
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Yup. Thought all these big win margin predictions for the Saders were fanciful. Had Saders by 1.
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