Superb stuff. That SH looked a real find.Enzedder wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:52 am Fuck we deserved that one. And with so many players out - and away from home.
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Good win for the good guys
Isn't he a ripper. Only got in because Weber is out for a while.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:53 amSuperb stuff. That SH looked a real find.Enzedder wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:52 am Fuck we deserved that one. And with so many players out - and away from home.
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Good win for the Chiefs fans.
Lost track of the second half a bit. Nothing wrong with a few Tuis Bungle, we just moved onto Espresso Martini’s.
We’re shameless like that.
Lost track of the second half a bit. Nothing wrong with a few Tuis Bungle, we just moved onto Espresso Martini’s.
We’re shameless like that.
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Drua might have even won were it not for their very Fijian looking FB being a revolving door!
Actually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:19 pmGrandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:57 pmShall we start a petition on Change.org?Dan54 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:39 pm
I agree Grandpa, I think our super teams are nowhere near as good in intensity,or skill level as a few years back, and have doesn't help we only play Aussie teams aprt from each other. I have thought Premiership etc up North has surpassed super in standards, will make it awful hard when we trying to get ABs ready for test rugby.
NZ Super Rugby must have at least 3 people at all rucks!
Guys, it's only 3 weeks in. Calm yourselves.
Still wishy washy rugby though... just nowhere near the same intensity at the breakdown. If super sides aren't doing it, can the All Blacks switch to a more aggressive breakdown mindset when they play teams like England, Ireland, France and SA? They couldn't last year... so something has to change... and it's not changing at super rugby level... so Foster, over to you.. gulp...Dan54 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:05 pmActually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:19 pmGrandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:57 pm
Shall we start a petition on Change.org?
NZ Super Rugby must have at least 3 people at all rucks!
Guys, it's only 3 weeks in. Calm yourselves.
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It was a top-notch match that the Chiefs took by the scruff of the neck in the last 20 mins and, such was their dominance over that period, deservedly won. The Crusaders also had a number if players out — at least 6 from their usual 23: Jager, McCallister, Williams, Barrett, Dunshea and Drummond (plus Moody during the match).Enzedder wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:52 am Fuck we deserved that one. And with so many players out - and away from home.
Chuffed
Found it bloody inetersting watching Breakdown, and hearing Goldies take on things. He pointed out that SH teams are going to ground more than NH teams, ie the cleaners etc in NH drive upwards as they come into breakdon area and clear the players well past the area, leaving a space for the attcak etc following through to exploit.Grandpa wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:46 pmStill wishy washy rugby though... just nowhere near the same intensity at the breakdown. If super sides aren't doing it, can the All Blacks switch to a more aggressive breakdown mindset when they play teams like England, Ireland, France and SA? They couldn't last year... so something has to change... and it's not changing at super rugby level... so Foster, over to you.. gulp...Dan54 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:05 pmActually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.
I need to watch the Breakdown... seeing as it's the name of the show... I think they should spend more time on this area... I know the end of last year they pointed out (like us) that it was a huge area of concern for the All Blacks...Dan54 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:08 amFound it bloody inetersting watching Breakdown, and hearing Goldies take on things. He pointed out that SH teams are going to ground more than NH teams, ie the cleaners etc in NH drive upwards as they come into breakdon area and clear the players well past the area, leaving a space for the attcak etc following through to exploit.Grandpa wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:46 pmStill wishy washy rugby though... just nowhere near the same intensity at the breakdown. If super sides aren't doing it, can the All Blacks switch to a more aggressive breakdown mindset when they play teams like England, Ireland, France and SA? They couldn't last year... so something has to change... and it's not changing at super rugby level... so Foster, over to you.. gulp...Dan54 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:05 pm
Actually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.
I think it's easier to clear upwards because there are generally more players involved at the breakdown in European rugby. You really have to compete to secure your own ball... only in the last few minutes did I see any proper breakdown intensity in the Crusaders v Chiefs match... keep playing like this and it will be a rude awakening again when the All blacks play a decent side...
Edit - seen the Breakdown now. Good to see them focusing on the breakdown difference between north and south... Goldie is right, no need to target the guy lying on the ground... but I think the bad habit is lack of numbers at the breakdown is facilitating this as well... there often is only players on the ground to compete against...
Interesting O'Keefe saying the Six Nations is much faster this year even compared to last year... so it's modern breakdown warfare.. fast and target standing players.. and numbers at the breakdown... so will NZ adapt?
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Under Foster? Unlikely. He seems convinced that razzle dazzle, sevens rugby is the answer to everything.
The NH teams will be licking their chops if we keep playing like that.
The NH teams will be licking their chops if we keep playing like that.
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Which camp?
Crusaders
Shame about the timing with so many matches off... but good to finally have Super Rugby back on TV in the UK...Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:54 pm Seems Sanzaar has signed a deal with Sky Sports in the UK. Super Rugby, NPC, Currie Cup, summer tours, rugby championship. Super rugby on from this weekend.
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FFS. AFTER I had paid for the streaming service.Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:54 pm Seems Sanzaar has signed a deal with Sky Sports in the UK. Super Rugby, NPC, Currie Cup, summer tours, rugby championship. Super rugby on from this weekend.
Same here.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:12 pmFFS. AFTER I had paid for the streaming service.Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:54 pm Seems Sanzaar has signed a deal with Sky Sports in the UK. Super Rugby, NPC, Currie Cup, summer tours, rugby championship. Super rugby on from this weekend.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Fingers crossed.
Meanwhile, the Drua go ahead of the Force 18-17 with about 20 minutes to play.
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Well, I guess with the intensity the Chiefs have shown for the entire 80 the last few games, a blow out was on the cards.
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Jimmy Smallsteps
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Agreed. The two Pacific teams add a lot to the comp, even if Pacifika are a bit weaker. I feel Super Rugby is finally comfortable in its own skin. Good schedules, good sides, good code.Biffer wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am Man the Drua are a lot of fun. If they had a vaguely competent line out they would have won that game by a distance. Great to watch though, really adds to the tournament.
It is encouraging that neither Drua nor Moana have faced any embarrassingly large losses.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 amAgreed. The two Pacific teams add a lot to the comp, even if Pacifika are a bit weaker. I feel Super Rugby is finally comfortable in its own skin. Good schedules, good sides, good code.Biffer wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am Man the Drua are a lot of fun. If they had a vaguely competent line out they would have won that game by a distance. Great to watch though, really adds to the tournament.
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59-12 wasn't ideal for Pasifika tonight but the Chiefs are looking a vintage side.Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:15 amIt is encouraging that neither Drua nor Moana have faced any embarrassingly large losses.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 amAgreed. The two Pacific teams add a lot to the comp, even if Pacifika are a bit weaker. I feel Super Rugby is finally comfortable in its own skin. Good schedules, good sides, good code.Biffer wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am Man the Drua are a lot of fun. If they had a vaguely competent line out they would have won that game by a distance. Great to watch though, really adds to the tournament.
I'm worried... watching Super Rugby is like watching rugby from at least ten years ago... I remember when we used to lead the world... what we did, everyone else tried to copy... now we look stuck in a time warp... and I'm not sure what it will take to wake it up...a mediocre All Blacks team most likely...