Stop voting for fucking Tories

[fishfoodie]

That's a theme throughout the entire program.

A Privacy Bill that will reduce your right to Privacy.
A Planning/Housing Bill that will reduce your chances of ever having a home.
A Cost of Living strategy that doesn't actually involve any actual Government spending,
Talking about boosting the economy, while planning a Trade war with your largest market


There's no positives, unless your talking about cost of living rises, tax rises, extra red tape.

[Tichtheid]

Under that George Peretz QC tweet was this

Dan Hodges writes for the Mail

I just have to repeat the quote wrt Starmer, "If he gets away with not breaking the law"

[salanya]

So how does Boris envisage stimulating the economy when a vast percentage of the population has a much lower or no disposable income?

Is he going to find all these people 'high wage' jobs in the next 3 months??!

[robmatic]

Under that George Peretz QC tweet was this

Dan Hodges writes for the Mail

I just have to repeat the quote wrt Starmer, "If he gets away with not breaking the law"

Dan Hodges AKA "the right's useful idiot".

I've just learned that he is actually Glenda Jackson's son, so another great example of the meritocracy at the heart of British political life.

[I like neeps]

Under that George Peretz QC tweet was this

Dan Hodges writes for the Mail

I just have to repeat the quote wrt Starmer, "If he gets away with not breaking the law"

It's a totally ridiculous thing to say in that context. But he means e.g. Johnson's garden party - no fines for it (yet) so currently has "got away with not breaking the law" but it was slightly damaging politically. See also Dominic Cummings drive to Barnard Castle - he got away with not breaking the law but it was the beginning of the end.

Currygate's ideal ending for the Tory press is that Sir Beers is politically damaged, loses some moral authority. But not fined so doesn't resign.

So Hodges actually has a point in that no finding of breaking the law is still damaging. Tory wind up that he is.

[petej]

Under that George Peretz QC tweet was this

Dan Hodges writes for the Mail

I just have to repeat the quote wrt Starmer, "If he gets away with not breaking the law"

It's a totally ridiculous thing to say in that context. But he means e.g. Johnson's garden party - no fines for it (yet) so currently has "got away with not breaking the law" but it was slightly damaging politically. See also Dominic Cummings drive to Barnard Castle - he got away with not breaking the law but it was the beginning of the end.

Currygate's ideal ending for the Tory press is that Sir Beers is politically damaged, loses some moral authority. But not fined so doesn't resign.

So Hodges actually has a point in that no finding of breaking the law is still damaging. Tory wind up that he is.

Doesn't matter what the ending is to a press which has no scruples at all about brown nosing their mate.

[I like neeps]

Under that George Peretz QC tweet was this

Dan Hodges writes for the Mail

I just have to repeat the quote wrt Starmer, "If he gets away with not breaking the law"

It's a totally ridiculous thing to say in that context. But he means e.g. Johnson's garden party - no fines for it (yet) so currently has "got away with not breaking the law" but it was slightly damaging politically. See also Dominic Cummings drive to Barnard Castle - he got away with not breaking the law but it was the beginning of the end.

Currygate's ideal ending for the Tory press is that Sir Beers is politically damaged, loses some moral authority. But not fined so doesn't resign.

So Hodges actually has a point in that no finding of breaking the law is still damaging. Tory wind up that he is.

Doesn't matter what the ending is to a press which has no scruples at all about brown nosing their mate.

No true they'll attack him regardless. But it's slightly awkward if he does resign over a FPN.

Fwiw this episode shows how stupid he is writing comments pages in The Sun. They'll never support you Keir. Doesn't have good political instincts at all.

[Hal Jordan]

So how does Boris envisage stimulating the economy when a vast percentage of the population has a much lower or no disposable income?

Is he going to find all these people 'high wage' jobs in the next 3 months??!

Gut human rights.

Gut employment rights.

Fuck the environment.

Stop the right to protest.

Neuter the Courts.

Sorry, did anyone think he meant stimulating the economy for those outside the chums and donors?

[fishfoodie]

So how does Boris envisage stimulating the economy when a vast percentage of the population has a much lower or no disposable income?

Is he going to find all these people 'high wage' jobs in the next 3 months??!

Gut human rights.

Gut employment rights.

Fuck the environment.

Stop the right to protest.

Neuter the Courts.

Sorry, did anyone think he meant stimulating the economy for those outside the chums and donors?

The Pawn shops, Food banks, & bankruptcy specialists will be booming !

[Uncle fester]

ffs the Mail and Tory MPs are quite scummy

She can uncross her legs at me anytime.

[fishfoodie]

You pig. She is not here for you to ogle and if you search 'Bikini' and 'Labour' you just get some women giving birth in a pool and who the fuck wants to watch that bar me

Could be worse .... you could start out googling "Dominator", & end up with a bunch of tractors

[C69]

Sexist swines

[Tichtheid]

Under that George Peretz QC tweet was this

Dan Hodges writes for the Mail

I just have to repeat the quote wrt Starmer, "If he gets away with not breaking the law"

It's a totally ridiculous thing to say in that context. But he means e.g. Johnson's garden party - no fines for it (yet) so currently has "got away with not breaking the law" but it was slightly damaging politically. See also Dominic Cummings drive to Barnard Castle - he got away with not breaking the law but it was the beginning of the end.

Currygate's ideal ending for the Tory press is that Sir Beers is politically damaged, loses some moral authority. But not fined so doesn't resign.

So Hodges actually has a point in that no finding of breaking the law is still damaging. Tory wind up that he is.

Any professional journalist who needs to have whatever he has written spun favourably is not very good at his job.

Apparently there is a paper trail of work messages and WhatsApp posts going on to nearly two in the morning after they had the food and a beer. That's probably why Starmer was confident enough to offer his resignation if he was issued with a FPN.

I hear that the guy who filmed the people having food through a window is the son of co founder of Breitbart UK James Delingpole, and we know that Hodges is pushing this story hard in the Mail.


Really anyone who thinks Starmer is damaged by this is a bit desperate, hanging on to the Mail's and Breibart's coat tails is not a good look.

[SaintK]

Gove has been at his drugs stash early today

[I like neeps]

Under that George Peretz QC tweet was this

Dan Hodges writes for the Mail

I just have to repeat the quote wrt Starmer, "If he gets away with not breaking the law"

It's a totally ridiculous thing to say in that context. But he means e.g. Johnson's garden party - no fines for it (yet) so currently has "got away with not breaking the law" but it was slightly damaging politically. See also Dominic Cummings drive to Barnard Castle - he got away with not breaking the law but it was the beginning of the end.

Currygate's ideal ending for the Tory press is that Sir Beers is politically damaged, loses some moral authority. But not fined so doesn't resign.

So Hodges actually has a point in that no finding of breaking the law is still damaging. Tory wind up that he is.

Any professional journalist who needs to have whatever he has written spun favourably is not very good at his job.

Apparently there is a paper trail of work messages and WhatsApp posts going on to nearly two in the morning after they had the food and a beer. That's probably why Starmer was confident enough to offer his resignation if he was issued with a FPN.

I hear that the guy who filmed the people having food through a window is the son of co founder of Breitbart UK James Delingpole, and we know that Hodges is pushing this story hard in the Mail.


Really anyone who thinks Starmer is damaged by this is a bit desperate, hanging on to the Mail's and Breibart's coat tails is not a good look.

He later clarified that point on his twitter so that's not spinning I'm afraid. It's also quite obvious what he means when you see what he's replying to.

We'll see when the latest polls come out. I expect a dip for Starmer. Say what you want about the Mail & the Sun (right wing campaign tools) but they get readers. I can't imagine many had a favourable view of Starmer to begin with so he might be fine.

[petej]

Gove has been at his drugs stash early today

That is bad.

[dpedin]

It's a totally ridiculous thing to say in that context. But he means e.g. Johnson's garden party - no fines for it (yet) so currently has "got away with not breaking the law" but it was slightly damaging politically. See also Dominic Cummings drive to Barnard Castle - he got away with not breaking the law but it was the beginning of the end.

Currygate's ideal ending for the Tory press is that Sir Beers is politically damaged, loses some moral authority. But not fined so doesn't resign.

So Hodges actually has a point in that no finding of breaking the law is still damaging. Tory wind up that he is.

Any professional journalist who needs to have whatever he has written spun favourably is not very good at his job.

Apparently there is a paper trail of work messages and WhatsApp posts going on to nearly two in the morning after they had the food and a beer. That's probably why Starmer was confident enough to offer his resignation if he was issued with a FPN.

I hear that the guy who filmed the people having food through a window is the son of co founder of Breitbart UK James Delingpole, and we know that Hodges is pushing this story hard in the Mail.


Really anyone who thinks Starmer is damaged by this is a bit desperate, hanging on to the Mail's and Breibart's coat tails is not a good look.

He later clarified that point on his twitter so that's not spinning I'm afraid. It's also quite obvious what he means when you see what he's replying to.

We'll see when the latest polls come out. I expect a dip for Starmer. Say what you want about the Mail & the Sun (right wing campaign tools) but they get readers. I can't imagine many had a favourable view of Starmer to begin with so he might be fine.

I think the whole 'Beergate' episode is a classical example of what is wrong with this country and its media at the moment. It is a complete non-story, Stammer did nothing wrong and that will be the police findings. He is not stupid as an ex-DPP and if nothing else is meticulous and will have checked the law and all the details before declaring he would resign if in receipt of a FPN. However the Gov need a story to deflect from their actual law-breaking and FPNs, the Blonde Bumblecunts disastrous GMB interview, JRM declaring Brexit is about imposition of self harm to the UK, Tory Peer Mone being investigated for PPE contracts with Gove implicated and not forgetting the horrendous loss of nearly 500 local council seats. So up steps the Tory press, desperate to avoid a Labour Gov that will strip their owners of Non-Dom status, with a dodgy non story ' man eats curry at work' attacking the Labour leader. It is then picked up by the complaint BBC and other media and they reinforce the false equivalence in order to appear 'neutral' in the 'partygate/beergate' issue instead of looking at the facts and reporting objectively.

It now looks like the whole beergate story, driven by Tory HQ, is going to backfire on them and leave the Blonde Bumblecunt, Dishy Rishi and others in an even worse situation to protect once they get further FPNs and still refuse to resign. It is a bit of a misstep, they now have an Opposition Leader who has managed to take the moral high ground and exhibit a set of standards higher than the current Gov can even dream of. It will be difficult to protect this position going forward, however as usual they will avoid it by throwing in another 'dead cat' to deflect.

[I like neeps]

Any professional journalist who needs to have whatever he has written spun favourably is not very good at his job.

Apparently there is a paper trail of work messages and WhatsApp posts going on to nearly two in the morning after they had the food and a beer. That's probably why Starmer was confident enough to offer his resignation if he was issued with a FPN.

I hear that the guy who filmed the people having food through a window is the son of co founder of Breitbart UK James Delingpole, and we know that Hodges is pushing this story hard in the Mail.


Really anyone who thinks Starmer is damaged by this is a bit desperate, hanging on to the Mail's and Breibart's coat tails is not a good look.

He later clarified that point on his twitter so that's not spinning I'm afraid. It's also quite obvious what he means when you see what he's replying to.

We'll see when the latest polls come out. I expect a dip for Starmer. Say what you want about the Mail & the Sun (right wing campaign tools) but they get readers. I can't imagine many had a favourable view of Starmer to begin with so he might be fine.

I think the whole 'Beergate' episode is a classical example of what is wrong with this country and its media at the moment. It is a complete non-story, Stammer did nothing wrong and that will be the police findings. He is not stupid as an ex-DPP and if nothing else is meticulous and will have checked the law and all the details before declaring he would resign if in receipt of a FPN. However the Gov need a story to deflect from their actual law-breaking and FPNs, the Blonde Bumblecunts disastrous GMB interview, JRM declaring Brexit is about imposition of self harm to the UK, Tory Peer Mone being investigated for PPE contracts with Gove implicated and not forgetting the horrendous loss of nearly 500 local council seats. So up steps the Tory press, desperate to avoid a Labour Gov that will strip their owners of Non-Dom status, with a dodgy non story ' man eats curry at work' attacking the Labour leader. It is then picked up by the complaint BBC and other media and they reinforce the false equivalence in order to appear 'neutral' in the 'partygate/beergate' issue instead of looking at the facts and reporting objectively.

It now looks like the whole beergate story, driven by Tory HQ, is going to backfire on them and leave the Blonde Bumblecunt, Dishy Rishi and others in an even worse situation to protect once they get further FPNs and still refuse to resign. It is a bit of a misstep, they now have an Opposition Leader who has managed to take the moral high ground and exhibit a set of standards higher than the current Gov can even dream of. It will be difficult to protect this position going forward, however as usual they will avoid it by throwing in another 'dead cat' to deflect.

You won't find me arguing that the right wing press is not all that wrong with the country.

Pretty much all of the problems we have in politics comes from about 5 billionaires who live off-shore controlling the debate.

And whilst Hodges is a complete moron he has a point on this one. Even if politicians don't get charged, police investigations are rarely harmless. No matter how confected. Starmer should learn his lesson and get out of bed with The Sun and Murdoch.

[Tichtheid]

It's a totally ridiculous thing to say in that context. But he means e.g. Johnson's garden party - no fines for it (yet) so currently has "got away with not breaking the law" but it was slightly damaging politically. See also Dominic Cummings drive to Barnard Castle - he got away with not breaking the law but it was the beginning of the end.

Currygate's ideal ending for the Tory press is that Sir Beers is politically damaged, loses some moral authority. But not fined so doesn't resign.

So Hodges actually has a point in that no finding of breaking the law is still damaging. Tory wind up that he is.

Any professional journalist who needs to have whatever he has written spun favourably is not very good at his job.

Apparently there is a paper trail of work messages and WhatsApp posts going on to nearly two in the morning after they had the food and a beer. That's probably why Starmer was confident enough to offer his resignation if he was issued with a FPN.

I hear that the guy who filmed the people having food through a window is the son of co founder of Breitbart UK James Delingpole, and we know that Hodges is pushing this story hard in the Mail.


Really anyone who thinks Starmer is damaged by this is a bit desperate, hanging on to the Mail's and Breibart's coat tails is not a good look.

He later clarified that point on his twitter so that's not spinning I'm afraid. It's also quite obvious what he means when you see what he's replying to.

The tweet he was replying to was one from Steve Madeley, who is a sports journalist from what I can gather.

Hodges initially said "it's not about the technical breach of the law, it's about the perception of hypocrisy and lack of openness. He can't get off on a technicality on this"

To which Madeley replied "I do get that the optics are poor, but breaking the law versus not breaking the law is a bit more than a technicality, isn't it?"

Hodges response that one about Starmer getting away with not breaking the law. I repeat, "getting away with not breaking the law", ffs.

The perception of wrong doing is being fuelled by Hodges almost on his own. The event has already been looked at by the police, unlike the Tory events in County Durham and unlike the garden party with cheese and wine at Downing St.

As someone said elsewhere if Starmer donated a kidney Hodges would be wailing that Starmer had kept one for himself.

There is a desperate attempt to draw equivalence between this and the multiple events the Tories were having, all fifteen that we know about so far. The win here for the Tories is that the mud sticks and "they are all the same, them politicians, so lets forget about it all", the Tory party are again taking the voters for mugs

[dpedin]

Any professional journalist who needs to have whatever he has written spun favourably is not very good at his job.

Apparently there is a paper trail of work messages and WhatsApp posts going on to nearly two in the morning after they had the food and a beer. That's probably why Starmer was confident enough to offer his resignation if he was issued with a FPN.

I hear that the guy who filmed the people having food through a window is the son of co founder of Breitbart UK James Delingpole, and we know that Hodges is pushing this story hard in the Mail.


Really anyone who thinks Starmer is damaged by this is a bit desperate, hanging on to the Mail's and Breibart's coat tails is not a good look.

He later clarified that point on his twitter so that's not spinning I'm afraid. It's also quite obvious what he means when you see what he's replying to.

The tweet he was replying to was one from Steve Madeley, who is a sports journalist from what I can gather.

Hodges initially said "it's not about the technical breach of the law, it's about the perception of hypocrisy and lack of openness. He can't get off on a technicality on this"

To which Madeley replied "I do get that the optics are poor, but breaking the law versus not breaking the law is a bit more than a technicality, isn't it?"

Hodges response that one about Starmer getting away with not breaking the law. I repeat, "getting away with not breaking the law", ffs.

The perception of wrong doing is being fuelled by Hodges almost on his own. The event has already been looked at by the police, unlike the Tory events in County Durham and unlike the garden party with cheese and wine at Downing St.

As someone said elsewhere if Starmer donated a kidney Hodges would be wailing that Starmer had kept one for himself.

There is a desperate attempt to draw equivalence between this and the multiple events the Tories were having, all fifteen that we know about so far. The win here for the Tories is that the mud sticks and "they are all the same, them politicians, so lets forget about it all", the Tory party are again taking the voters for mugs

Exactly this. The Tories recognise that they can't defend the law breaking of their own party and PM so their only hope is to try and drag everyone down to their level and make the public believe that all politicians are the same. So their desperate attempt to try and throw muck at Stammer and hope some of it sticks with the help of their right wing press buddies - don't forget Dacre is furious about not getting the Ofcom job and blames the left - is all they have left. If ever there was a desperate attempt to try and drag everyone down to their level in the murky pit of Tory corruption then this is it! There is no equivalence between what Starmer did - have a curry and beer whilst working late - and 15 pre arranged parties with karaoke and suitcases of booze of No10 whilst going to the room next door and telling the public to stick to the covid rules. Our politicians are not all the same - whilst Labour, LD, Greens and SNP all have their faults none compare to the depths of depravity and law breaking our current Tory Gov have sunk to.

[robmatic]

There is a desperate attempt to draw equivalence between this and the multiple events the Tories were having, all fifteen that we know about so far. The win here for the Tories is that the mud sticks and "they are all the same, them politicians, so lets forget about it all", the Tory party are again taking the voters for mugs

Sadly, I think they are right about the voters.

[JM2K6]

He later clarified that point on his twitter so that's not spinning I'm afraid. It's also quite obvious what he means when you see what he's replying to.

We'll see when the latest polls come out. I expect a dip for Starmer. Say what you want about the Mail & the Sun (right wing campaign tools) but they get readers. I can't imagine many had a favourable view of Starmer to begin with so he might be fine.

I think the whole 'Beergate' episode is a classical example of what is wrong with this country and its media at the moment. It is a complete non-story, Stammer did nothing wrong and that will be the police findings. He is not stupid as an ex-DPP and if nothing else is meticulous and will have checked the law and all the details before declaring he would resign if in receipt of a FPN. However the Gov need a story to deflect from their actual law-breaking and FPNs, the Blonde Bumblecunts disastrous GMB interview, JRM declaring Brexit is about imposition of self harm to the UK, Tory Peer Mone being investigated for PPE contracts with Gove implicated and not forgetting the horrendous loss of nearly 500 local council seats. So up steps the Tory press, desperate to avoid a Labour Gov that will strip their owners of Non-Dom status, with a dodgy non story ' man eats curry at work' attacking the Labour leader. It is then picked up by the complaint BBC and other media and they reinforce the false equivalence in order to appear 'neutral' in the 'partygate/beergate' issue instead of looking at the facts and reporting objectively.

It now looks like the whole beergate story, driven by Tory HQ, is going to backfire on them and leave the Blonde Bumblecunt, Dishy Rishi and others in an even worse situation to protect once they get further FPNs and still refuse to resign. It is a bit of a misstep, they now have an Opposition Leader who has managed to take the moral high ground and exhibit a set of standards higher than the current Gov can even dream of. It will be difficult to protect this position going forward, however as usual they will avoid it by throwing in another 'dead cat' to deflect.

You won't find me arguing that the right wing press is not all that wrong with the country.

Pretty much all of the problems we have in politics comes from about 5 billionaires who live off-shore controlling the debate.

And whilst Hodges is a complete moron he has a point on this one. Even if politicians don't get charged, police investigations are rarely harmless. No matter how confected. Starmer should learn his lesson and get out of bed with The Sun and Murdoch.

Starmer writing in the Sun isn't because he wants to get the Sun on-side, it's because he wants to reach Sun readers and the best way to do so is on their home turf. I don't think anyone in Labour is thinking that the Sun is suddenly going to support them.

[I like neeps]

I think the whole 'Beergate' episode is a classical example of what is wrong with this country and its media at the moment. It is a complete non-story, Stammer did nothing wrong and that will be the police findings. He is not stupid as an ex-DPP and if nothing else is meticulous and will have checked the law and all the details before declaring he would resign if in receipt of a FPN. However the Gov need a story to deflect from their actual law-breaking and FPNs, the Blonde Bumblecunts disastrous GMB interview, JRM declaring Brexit is about imposition of self harm to the UK, Tory Peer Mone being investigated for PPE contracts with Gove implicated and not forgetting the horrendous loss of nearly 500 local council seats. So up steps the Tory press, desperate to avoid a Labour Gov that will strip their owners of Non-Dom status, with a dodgy non story ' man eats curry at work' attacking the Labour leader. It is then picked up by the complaint BBC and other media and they reinforce the false equivalence in order to appear 'neutral' in the 'partygate/beergate' issue instead of looking at the facts and reporting objectively.

It now looks like the whole beergate story, driven by Tory HQ, is going to backfire on them and leave the Blonde Bumblecunt, Dishy Rishi and others in an even worse situation to protect once they get further FPNs and still refuse to resign. It is a bit of a misstep, they now have an Opposition Leader who has managed to take the moral high ground and exhibit a set of standards higher than the current Gov can even dream of. It will be difficult to protect this position going forward, however as usual they will avoid it by throwing in another 'dead cat' to deflect.

You won't find me arguing that the right wing press is not all that wrong with the country.

Pretty much all of the problems we have in politics comes from about 5 billionaires who live off-shore controlling the debate.

And whilst Hodges is a complete moron he has a point on this one. Even if politicians don't get charged, police investigations are rarely harmless. No matter how confected. Starmer should learn his lesson and get out of bed with The Sun and Murdoch.

Starmer writing in the Sun isn't because he wants to get the Sun on-side, it's because he wants to reach Sun readers and the best way to do so is on their home turf. I don't think anyone in Labour is thinking that the Sun is suddenly going to support them.

Still a highly flawed way of thinking. I bet Starmer's one column in The Sun on page 30 will make up for the relentless negative press they'll give him in the preceding 29 pages by which time the reader's mind is made up.

The Labour leader has to ignore The Sun and DM readers. It's about 2 million people who won't vote for you anyway.

[ASMO]

There is an assumption that most Sun readers can actually read and digest words of more than 4 letters.

[Hal Jordan]

Gove has been at his drugs stash early today

That is bad.

If "cocaine" is trending on Twitter immediately after your interview on breakfast television, you have fucked up.

[SaintK]

A true Tory scumbag and no mistake

[sockwithaticket]

A true Tory scumbag and no mistake

They really are fucking evil. Any of this sort of thing should result in them having to actually attempt it.

We'll even be generous and say he can have £1 a day. Give him that and see how he's getting on after a week.

You simply cannot eat the amount a human being is supposed to, let alone healthily, for so little.

[fishfoodie]

A true Tory scumbag and no mistake

They really are fucking evil. Any of this sort of thing should result in them having to actually attempt it.

We'll even be generous and say he can have £1 a day. Give him that and see how he's getting on after a week.

You simply cannot eat the amount a human being is supposed to, let alone healthily, for so little.

Can't we just check his expenses & see what he thinks is a reasonable amount to spend daily ?

[Tichtheid]

Jack Monroe has already showed that to be the absolute lie that it is, yet here they are

[Rhubarb & Custard]

If people cannot budget and/or cook, and actually both of those are issues, would Lee Anderson care to take a swing at who we speak to about failures around investment and education in such areas?

Also 30p a day? I mean maybe you could buy a giant bag of smashed cheap biscuits that could possibly get you near a survival calorie intake over 1-2 weeks that averages to that. But even if you could get near a survival level of calories, and I have my doubts in advance, the malnutrition would be so alarming only Skynet should be making suggestions like Anderson's

[fishfoodie]

If people cannot budget and/or cook, and actually both of those are issues, would Lee Anderson care to take a swing at who we speak to about failures around investment and education in such areas?

Also 30p a day? I mean maybe you could buy a giant bag of smashed cheap biscuits that could possibly get you near a survival calorie intake over 1-2 weeks that averages to that. But even if you could get near a survival level of calories, and I have my doubts in advance, the malnutrition would be so alarming only Skynet should be making suggestions like Anderson's

You're obviously supposed to supplement the smashed biscuits, with the occasional piece of roadkill, or pizza you nicked out of your neighbours dustbin

[SaintK]

Can't we just check his expenses & see what he thinks is a reasonable amount to spend daily ?

The Rt Hon member for Ashfield claimed over £220k in staffing and business costs in his first full year as an MP
https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing ... cations
This is a breakdown
https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/ ... nses/type

[SaintK]

Mind you, these local Tory officials in Dartford appear delighted to be opening yet another food bank

[Rhubarb & Custard]

If people cannot budget and/or cook, and actually both of those are issues, would Lee Anderson care to take a swing at who we speak to about failures around investment and education in such areas?

Also 30p a day? I mean maybe you could buy a giant bag of smashed cheap biscuits that could possibly get you near a survival calorie intake over 1-2 weeks that averages to that. But even if you could get near a survival level of calories, and I have my doubts in advance, the malnutrition would be so alarming only Skynet should be making suggestions like Anderson's

You're obviously supposed to supplement the smashed biscuits, with the occasional piece of roadkill, or pizza you nicked out of your neighbours dustbin

There is some good in this. The rise in NI to backfill ongoing spending in the NHS palpably isn't going to address issues in social care. But, if the population or at least a reasonable percentage are going to try and survive now on 30p, or even £2 a day on food, then we can be reasonably sure life expectancy for a good number of people will be significantly reduced. And thus finally the Tory party are addressing in some meaningful manner how social care, pension and health costs will be met

[fishfoodie]

If people cannot budget and/or cook, and actually both of those are issues, would Lee Anderson care to take a swing at who we speak to about failures around investment and education in such areas?

Also 30p a day? I mean maybe you could buy a giant bag of smashed cheap biscuits that could possibly get you near a survival calorie intake over 1-2 weeks that averages to that. But even if you could get near a survival level of calories, and I have my doubts in advance, the malnutrition would be so alarming only Skynet should be making suggestions like Anderson's

You're obviously supposed to supplement the smashed biscuits, with the occasional piece of roadkill, or pizza you nicked out of your neighbours dustbin

There is some good in this. The rise in NI to backfill ongoing spending in the NHS palpably isn't going to address issues in social care. But, if the population or at least a reasonable percentage are going to try and survive now on 30p, or even £2 a day on food, then we can be reasonably sure life expectancy for a good number of people will be significantly reduced. And thus finally the Tory party are addressing in some meaningful manner how social care, pension and health costs will be met

Indeed !

and if you're starving to death, it's much harder to raise the energy to throw a petrol bomb (if you could afford to fill one), or to riot, or perhaps even make you way to your polling station.

[Mahoney]

I think in this context NI meant National Insurance.

[fishfoodie]

I think in this context NI meant National Insurance.

I actually realised that, but it works either way

[Tichtheid]

"NimbleFins is a personal finance website that conducts in-depth research & analysis on a variety of topics from insurance and credit cards to everyday spending and household budgets."

https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/average-uk ... udget#nogo

The short story - Average UK household spending is £30k per year, Average UK income is £38K before tax

Obviously if things are tight you are not skiing in Aspen this year, but these are averages, and there are things like car insurance, council tax, broadband, petrol, food etc that are not means-tested and people to do live according to their means. My point here is that even a good salary of £38k doesn't mean it's all roast pheasant and French wines.

For a dickhead on £80k plus (before expenses) to tell others to cut their cloth is yet another example of what the Tories think of the voters

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I think in this context NI meant National Insurance.

The DUP must love that for most Brits NI will only ever mean national insurance

[Camroc2]

If people cannot budget and/or cook, and actually both of those are issues, would Lee Anderson care to take a swing at who we speak to about failures around investment and education in such areas?

Also 30p a day? I mean maybe you could buy a giant bag of smashed cheap biscuits that could possibly get you near a survival calorie intake over 1-2 weeks that averages to that. But even if you could get near a survival level of calories, and I have my doubts in advance, the malnutrition would be so alarming only Skynet should be making suggestions like Anderson's

You're obviously supposed to supplement the smashed biscuits, with the occasional piece of roadkill, or pizza you nicked out of your neighbours dustbin

There is some good in this. The rise in NI to backfill ongoing spending in the NHS palpably isn't going to address issues in social care. But, if the population or at least a reasonable percentage are going to try and survive now on 30p, or even £2 a day on food, then we can be reasonably sure life expectancy for a good number of people will be significantly reduced. And thus finally the Tory party are addressing in some meaningful manner how social care, pension and health costs will be met

Indeed.