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Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:52 am I agree with your comment on Burke and wonder why Reece did not go for the line there.
Who was inside him that he tried to pass to? Was it Fainga'anuku? Reece trying to help him get another try and go for a third hat trick for the season? Thanks Nisbo for yet another piece of fucking annoying commentary with a random stat buried in it for that, by the way.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:56 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:52 am I agree with your comment on Burke and wonder why Reece did not go for the line there.
Who was inside him that he tried to pass to? Was it Fainga'anuku? Reece trying to help him get another try and go for a third hat trick for the season? Thanks Nisbo for yet another piece of fucking annoying commentary with a random stat buried in it for that, by the way.
That was my first thought. Commentators can be complete arses.
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There has been a clear improvement in the Crusaders discipline in the last couple of weeks, very encouraging to see.
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I have a theory you might be interested in Kiwias…

I was thinking how impressive the consistency and cohesion has been from the Saders with so many players either rested or out of position… coming on the back of two games where they finally seemed to gel and play with a more familiar level of skills and performance…

And it struck me that all of this coincides with the return of Jack Goodhue.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:19 am I have a theory you might be interested in Kiwias…

I was thinking how impressive the consistency and cohesion has been from the Saders with so many players either rested or out of position… coming on the back of two games where they finally seemed to gel and play with a more familiar level of skills and performance…

And it struck me that all of this coincides with the return of Jack Goodhue.
He is the Conrad Smith of our back line.
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Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:24 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:19 am I have a theory you might be interested in Kiwias…

I was thinking how impressive the consistency and cohesion has been from the Saders with so many players either rested or out of position… coming on the back of two games where they finally seemed to gel and play with a more familiar level of skills and performance…

And it struck me that all of this coincides with the return of Jack Goodhue.
He is the Conrad Smith of our back line.
Yet he still runs like has two broken legs... imagine what he could be like!
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What this starkly highlights is that rugby is a complex team game where systems and fitness far outweigh individual ability. In football, one player really can make a team (witness Maradonna). Flash never consistently decides rugby. Fiji and Samoa need to focus on that reality.
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Saders replacement hooker wins an excellent turnover under pressure and Bozo Barrett gives away a penalty.
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Grandpa wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:29 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:24 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:19 am I have a theory you might be interested in Kiwias…

I was thinking how impressive the consistency and cohesion has been from the Saders with so many players either rested or out of position… coming on the back of two games where they finally seemed to gel and play with a more familiar level of skills and performance…

And it struck me that all of this coincides with the return of Jack Goodhue.
He is the Conrad Smith of our back line.
Yet he still runs like has two broken legs... imagine what he could be like!
That running of his took him around the Drua backline earlier. Smoked them.
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Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:15 am There has been a clear improvement in the Crusaders discipline in the last couple of weeks, very encouraging to see.
Hmmm. Maybe that's because most of the opponents have been weaker than in the inter-kewee matches and so they've not needed to cheat quite as much? Just a thought.
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It is a yellow but when are some of these stupid c**ts going to learn to get lower in the tackle?
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:39 am It is a yellow but when are some of these stupid c**ts going to learn to get lower in the tackle?
Yeah.

Shall we discuss the commentary?
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:37 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:15 am There has been a clear improvement in the Crusaders discipline in the last couple of weeks, very encouraging to see.
Hmmm. Maybe that's because most of the opponents have been weaker than in the inter-kewee matches and so they've not needed to cheat quite as much? Just a thought.
Nah.

They’ve clearly stepped up their overall cohesion and cut the error rate.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:40 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:39 am It is a yellow but when are some of these stupid c**ts going to learn to get lower in the tackle?
Yeah.

Shall we discuss the commentary?
Marshall? :problem:

Going back to the incident, there is no way the Fijian was every going to make an effective tackle in the manner he approached that contact.
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Agreed, Torq.

By my reckoning Bourke has 29 of the 61 points scored so far.

Not bad. Not bad at all. 8 from 9 conversions and all from out wide.

Did he kick a penalty as well? I may have missed that.
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Naa mate, no penalty, he looked quite competent didn't he?
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Pretty happy with that. I had worried this could be a banana peel type game but the cohesion is really building and they look to be peaking nicely at the right time. I reckon Scott Robertson might have a bit about him as coach.
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Dan54 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 9:01 am Naa mate, no penalty, he looked quite competent didn't he?
Yeah, he did. He looked very comfortable... the whole game.

I was impressed with all of the second stringers actually, and my pre game misgivings came to nuthin'. Fuk u Raiser Robertson.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:37 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:15 am There has been a clear improvement in the Crusaders discipline in the last couple of weeks, very encouraging to see.
Hmmm. Maybe that's because most of the opponents have been weaker than in the inter-kewee matches and so they've not needed to cheat quite as much? Just a thought.
Are you calling the Brumbies weak?
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Grandpa wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:29 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:24 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:19 am I have a theory you might be interested in Kiwias…

I was thinking how impressive the consistency and cohesion has been from the Saders with so many players either rested or out of position… coming on the back of two games where they finally seemed to gel and play with a more familiar level of skills and performance…

And it struck me that all of this coincides with the return of Jack Goodhue.
He is the Conrad Smith of our back line.
Yet he still runs like has two broken legs... imagine what he could be like!
Conrad or Jack? It probably applies to both of them, to be honest.
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Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:37 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:37 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:15 am There has been a clear improvement in the Crusaders discipline in the last couple of weeks, very encouraging to see.
Hmmm. Maybe that's because most of the opponents have been weaker than in the inter-kewee matches and so they've not needed to cheat quite as much? Just a thought.
Are you calling the Brumbies weak?
Just for your reference, "most" is a qualitative rather than an absolute. :grin:
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Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:39 am
Grandpa wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:29 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:24 am

He is the Conrad Smith of our back line.
Yet he still runs like has two broken legs... imagine what he could be like!
Conrad or Jack? It probably applies to both of them, to be honest.
Nah.. Conrad looks like Usain Bolt next to Goodhue... I am sure it's misleading and he is a lot quicker than the running in quicksand style looks... if only we could have Rieko's pace and Goodhue's brain...
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 11:47 am
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:37 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:37 am

Hmmm. Maybe that's because most of the opponents have been weaker than in the inter-kewee matches and so they've not needed to cheat quite as much? Just a thought.
Are you calling the Brumbies weak?
Just for your reference, "most" is a qualitative rather than an absolute. :grin:
I was specifically referring to the last couple of weeks :crazy:
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Grandpa wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 12:37 pm
Kiwias wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:39 am
Grandpa wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:29 am

Yet he still runs like has two broken legs... imagine what he could be like!
Conrad or Jack? It probably applies to both of them, to be honest.
Nah.. Conrad looks like Usain Bolt next to Goodhue... I am sure it's misleading and he is a lot quicker than the running in quicksand style looks... if only we could have Rieko's pace and Goodhue's brain...
:clap:
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Thank God that sanity prevailed over the Kahui red card decision. He is exonerated (as any Chief or former Chief should be) and free to play against the Chiefs this weekend.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sup ... homecoming
It almost went up in red smoke, but, with a gamble at the judiciary, Richard Kahui will enjoy a happy Hamilton homecoming after all, as he counts down the final days of his rugby career.

The 17-test former All Black was contentiously sent off in the Western Force’s 61-10 loss to the Highlanders in Dunedin last Friday night, after colliding heads with Mitch Hunt.

Facing a three-game ban following initial consideration by the Sanzaar Foul Play Review Committee, and with three regular season games left in the Super Rugby Pacific season, his side struggling with injuries, feeling he wasn’t at fault, and of course with a game against his former Chiefs side looming in front of family and friends, Kahui opted to roll the dice at his hearing on Tuesday night.

“I really had nothing to lose,” he tells Stuff of an appeal which ended up proving successful and where common sense seemed to prevail, in the midst of World Rugby’s big clamp-down on head contact.

“If I had ripped his head off I certainly wouldn’t have bothered.

“I was a little bit surprised when I got the red... then I genuinely thought, watching it, I’m going to get off.
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Kahui's a fine player who would've played many more tests if his shoulders weren't so brittle.
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Chiefs vs Force kicking off in about 10 minutes.


Chiefs: 1-Aidan Ross, 2-Bradley Slater, 3-Angus Ta'avao, 4-Josh Lord, 5-Tupou Vaa'i, 6-Pita Gus Sowakula, 7-Sam Cane (cc), 8-Luke Jacobson, 9-Brad Weber (cc), 10-Bryn Gatland, 11-Chase Tiatia, 12-Quinn Tupaea, 13-Alex Nankivell, 14-Emoni Narawa, 15-Kaleb Trask
Reserves: 16-Samisoni Taukei'aho, 17-Josh Bartlett, 18-George Dyer, 19-Samipeni Finau, 20-Mitch Brown, 21-Kaylum Boshier, 22-Xavier Roe, 23-Rameka Poihipi

Western Force: 1-Tom Robertson, 2-Feleti Kaitu'u, 3-Santiago Medrano, 4-Ryan McCauley, 5-Izack Rodda, 6-Fergus Lee-Warner, 7-Tim Anstee, 8-Jackson Pugh, 9-Ian Prior, 10-Jake McIntyre, 11-Toni Pulu, 12-Reesjan Pasitoa, 13-Kyle Godwin, 14-Byron Ralston, 15-Jake Strachan
Replacements: 16-Andrew Ready, 17-Angus Wagner, 18-Bo Abra, 19-Jeremy Thrush, 20-William Sankey, 21-Michael McDonald, 22-Richard Kahui, 23-Brad Lacey
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In an heroic tribute to days gone by, I’m in a downtown Tauranga pub to watch this game.

Doors wide open and a freezing breeze. Jandals and shorts weather.
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Chiefs ahead 21-7 at HT.

Sam Cane off early with a knee injury. Hope it's not too serious.
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Gumboot wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 5:22 am Chiefs ahead 21-7 at HT.

Sam Cane off early with a knee injury. Hope it's not too serious.
Bit of a dog act to attack the leg like that - wonder where he learned that?

40 to 7 and tight five making mincemeat of the Force tighties
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Chiefs win 54-21.
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What is this sh*t on the NZ commentary? Pushing viewers to take up gambling? :problem:
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Wonder if Canes had spotted the Hodge injury: he was nowhere to be seen in defending that pretty straight fwd shuffle the ball down the line.
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Rebels get adv and go through several phases and obtain new adv......and immediately kick it away aimlessly :crazy:
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 7:14 am Rebels get adv and go through several phases and obtain new adv......and immediately kick it away aimlessly :crazy:
And again. At least that one was a contestable cross kick but with the length of advantages these days, why not back yourselves to keep the ball and attack in the 22?
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Hurricanes leading 26-8 at half time.
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Jb1981 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 7:46 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 7:14 am Rebels get adv and go through several phases and obtain new adv......and immediately kick it away aimlessly :crazy:
And again. At least that one was a contestable cross kick but with the length of advantages these days, why not back yourselves to keep the ball and attack in the 22?
I just don't get it. WTF are these guys being coached to do? You get precious few chances in oppo 22 and are handed a freebie to try building phases..... :thumbdown:
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T-S gettung whiteline fever.
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Blues allowing the Brumbies to make this into a scrap.
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