Exactly.Kiwias wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:08 am Feelings expressed best with this gif from the previous page, because we know there will be no concrete steps taken to reduce the insanity.
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Another mass shooting in the US
Blah blah blah Second Amendment blah blah blah... as if nothing's changed in the last 230 years.
Oh well, I guess thoughts and prayers will have to do.So far in 2022, there have been at least 212 mass shootings in the US, according to the nonprofit organisational Gun Violence Archive, which CNN reported. This means there have been more mass shootings this year than there have been days this year.

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Manchin and Sinema are Republican in all but name.EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 5:58 am 21 dead. Significantly less than Sandy Hook so the guns lobby will be somewhat relieved this morning. Republicans had the house in 2012 and will again in a few months. Not that Democrats can get fuck all done with a majority either way. The lobby will always turn a few red neck Democrats until it all dies down
Fuck me. Just read that the parents are being dna swabbed to help with identification due to the damage done.
I'm getting my boy ready for school right now, this is just sickening.
I'm getting my boy ready for school right now, this is just sickening.
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
They have police officers stationed in schools so that the kids are 'safe'. You get all the trappings of a repressive police state and excessive violence at the same time.EnergiseR2 wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 9:33 pm Who'd raise or willingly bring kids there all the same. The violence is too random and frequent. Even if you could block that you have fucking scanners in schools. My kids are scaredy cats as it is so that would just tip them over the edge
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They should release the crime scene photos. Those poor kids can't be identified by sight because of what an AR15 does to someone. Release the pictures, even the nutjobs can't see something like that and stay the course of the guns aren't the problem.
Did it make any difference to the nutjobs that shared the live stream of the ChCh mosque massacres?I like neeps wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 7:59 am They should release the crime scene photos. Those poor kids can't be identified by sight because of what an AR15 does to someone. Release the pictures, even the nutjobs can't see something like that and stay the course of the guns aren't the problem.
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They took that down pretty quickly with minimal views though. You'd need to know where to look to find it nowadays.Gumboot wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 8:03 amDid it make any difference to the nutjobs that shared the live stream of the ChCh mosque massacres?I like neeps wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 7:59 am They should release the crime scene photos. Those poor kids can't be identified by sight because of what an AR15 does to someone. Release the pictures, even the nutjobs can't see something like that and stay the course of the guns aren't the problem.
Not about the nutjobs. They are a small minority. The issue remains that America loves guns. I think you would reach a tipping point at about 25% of households having guns. From the link below it is about 1/3. More households have guns in Oregon than Texas which surprised me.Gumboot wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 8:03 amDid it make any difference to the nutjobs that shared the live stream of the ChCh mosque massacres?I like neeps wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 7:59 am They should release the crime scene photos. Those poor kids can't be identified by sight because of what an AR15 does to someone. Release the pictures, even the nutjobs can't see something like that and stay the course of the guns aren't the problem.
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In the UK I think we were surprised at how a single issue, Brexit in our case, could totally dominate politics and become tribal like supporting a football team. People who had never took a strong position on anything political before took sides on their emotional feeling and nothing could convince them otherwise.
In the states it is like that but magnified 10 times on guns. Powerful people know that and use it cleverly. Can’t ever see it changing.
In the states it is like that but magnified 10 times on guns. Powerful people know that and use it cleverly. Can’t ever see it changing.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
The gun lobby would just claim the images had been faked, like they tried to claim Sandyhook had been faked.I like neeps wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 7:59 am They should release the crime scene photos. Those poor kids can't be identified by sight because of what an AR15 does to someone. Release the pictures, even the nutjobs can't see something like that and stay the course of the guns aren't the problem.
Beto O'Rouke is running for Governor of Texas in November, but he has fuckall chance because he wants to legislate against guns.
Clicked on a few USA news sites ti gauge the mood. Tried the Denver Post for a kind of middle America, non real partisan feel. In the comments section after the main lead on the shooting a whole bunch of replies were stating how suspicious it was that these shootings are near an election time and would it be just like the lefties to do this on purpose.
They’re basically fvckd.
They’re basically fvckd.

“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
Just watch them raise the definition of "mass"Tichtheid wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 8:26 am I wondered how many mass shootings there had been in the US this year, I knew it was a high number, but I was amazed that this is the 49th, not this year but this month, and we've still got another week to go
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I was thinking along similar lines - acting at Federal level would go some way in restraining organisations from practices such as claiming bankruptcy and reforming elsewhere to avoid liability or moving corporate HQs to avoid state-mandated gun control measures.fishfoodie wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 11:09 pm Biden needs to come in & announce a plan to take the GOP template for allowing individual citizens to sue abortion providers, & make it a Federal law to allow individuals to sue gun brokers, makers, licensees (i.e. States), for punitive damages, if they supply, or authorize a gun in a mass shooting.
There are 15 bereaved families today, that should be able to sue the, Great State Of Texas for a billion dollars each, & for whatever bunch of death merchants put the gun in his hands,
It would also change the cost-benefit calculation for senators who seem far too beholden to the gun lobby.
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This is the 27th school shooting of the year. Not all of those will have been mass incidents, but even still. I don't know how parents send their kids out the door in the morning knowing there's a non-negligible chance they could be shot in a place of learning.Tichtheid wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 8:26 am I wondered how many mass shootings there had been in the US this year, I knew it was a high number, but I was amazed that this is the 49th, not this year but this month, and we've still got another week to go
I know a lot of people are numb to it, but America's relationship with guns and the violence that stems from it continues to floor me.
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Not praying hard enough, clearly.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:24 am All the people sending prayers are aware that those prayers are supposedly going to the god that just allowed this to happen right?
I'm thinking they should have been praying before it, so that he'd listen and not let it happen, rather than after to make sure he looks after the little kids he's just had brutally murdered.inactionman wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:26 amNot praying hard enough, clearly.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:24 am All the people sending prayers are aware that those prayers are supposedly going to the god that just allowed this to happen right?
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Good point.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:29 amI'm thinking they should have been praying before it, so that he'd listen and not let it happen, rather than after to make sure he looks after the little kids he's just had brutally murdered.inactionman wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:26 amNot praying hard enough, clearly.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:24 am All the people sending prayers are aware that those prayers are supposedly going to the god that just allowed this to happen right?
Perhaps parents of schoolkids could ask those lovely republican senators to start praying now for an unforeseen upcoming massacre to be avoided. Does God respond to non-specific prayers?
Does he respond to specific ones?inactionman wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:35 amGood point.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:29 amI'm thinking they should have been praying before it, so that he'd listen and not let it happen, rather than after to make sure he looks after the little kids he's just had brutally murdered.
Perhaps parents of schoolkids could ask those lovely republican senators to start praying now for an unforeseen upcoming massacre to be avoided. Does God respond to non-specific prayers?
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:57 amDoes he respond to specific ones?inactionman wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:35 amGood point.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:29 amI'm thinking they should have been praying before it, so that he'd listen and not let it happen, rather than after to make sure he looks after the little kids he's just had brutally murdered.
Perhaps parents of schoolkids could ask those lovely republican senators to start praying now for an unforeseen upcoming massacre to be avoided. Does God respond to non-specific prayers?
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If you're referring to requests for a night with Scarlett Johansen, not yet.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:57 amDoes he respond to specific ones?inactionman wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:35 amGood point.Raggs wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:29 am
I'm thinking they should have been praying before it, so that he'd listen and not let it happen, rather than after to make sure he looks after the little kids he's just had brutally murdered.
Perhaps parents of schoolkids could ask those lovely republican senators to start praying now for an unforeseen upcoming massacre to be avoided. Does God respond to non-specific prayers?
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The fringe ones. But most senators and voters aren't the it's a conspiracy fringe.Lobby wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 8:51 amThe gun lobby would just claim the images had been faked, like they tried to claim Sandyhook had been faked.I like neeps wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 7:59 am They should release the crime scene photos. Those poor kids can't be identified by sight because of what an AR15 does to someone. Release the pictures, even the nutjobs can't see something like that and stay the course of the guns aren't the problem.
The US is past statistics, it's passed common sense, it's used to X number of people died, it's even used to schools being shot up. Time to show what a school shooting looks like and if those pro gun can look at what an AR15 does to a child and sleep at night they're totally past humanity. I don't think they will though. I think people seeing the images is the only way to introduce legislation.
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Apart from fully automatic rifles, there's plenty of 'better than military' weaponry available on the open market.Sinkers wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 11:13 am I saw somewhere that the US Army’s new/replacement standard war-fighting rifle with it’s longer reach and bigger punch is already available in the stores in its “civilian” format.
Mental!!
Of course they will. They have no conscience and no shame.Kawazaki wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 12:33 pm The NRA have a big convention in Houston starting on Friday with all of their big political stooges scheduled to talk.
I wonder if they'll all show up?
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Bat shit crazy country:

guns have overtaken car crashes as the leading cause of death for children and teenagers

Young school children routinely rehearse what to do if a gunman enters their classroom.

Are young children told to think and pray? At which point if they get shot logic would imply that God has clearly decided they deserved to die.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 12:49 pm Bat shit crazy country:guns have overtaken car crashes as the leading cause of death for children and teenagers
Young school children routinely rehearse what to do if a gunman enters their classroom.![]()