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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:25 am
Gumboot wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:20 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:17 amZAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRNNNN


was on fire. Everything he touched turned to gold.
He's a very good fullback, but he looks to me like he could be an exceptional 10.
He moves into a closer receiving role nicely... but my gut says that would be a robbing Peter to pay Paul scenario. I like him at 15.
He took most of the clearing kicks, from flat and deeper. Pretty much everything else he did was class as well. Hope he, er, kicks on from here.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:18 am
Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:08 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:59 am What's with the bloody music?
It's a device used to drive all the oldies away from the crowd
You want to be able to chat about play during the game... but that would drown everything out.
Actually to be quite honest, wasn't that bad, I was at game, and wasn't loud by any means, I suspect TV mikes must of been bloody close to speakers, as I dislike it usually, but never had to raise voice or anything when chatting to people next seats.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:44 am 32 points against that team is a disgrace
Irish Rugby :lol: :lol:
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Bollocks. I completely forgot about this game until just now.

Have to track down the highlights somewhere
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Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:25 pm Bollocks. I completely forgot about this game until just now.

Have to track down the highlights somewhere
I think there are repeats on Sky Sports UK?
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Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:30 pm
Huge crowd. Rugby's really taking off in New Zealand
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They show up for the top teams like the Crusaders or Blues.
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Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:25 pm Bollocks. I completely forgot about this game until just now.

Have to track down the highlights somewhere
Try this...

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Cheers mate 👍👍
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A really nice touch was Bundee Aki presenting an Irish #11 jersey in the pre match. Sean Wainui's partner and kids walked out to collect it...

almost got a bit dusty in here at that stage.
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Reading ER's posts I was expecting this to be a bunch of no-hopers but it's largely up and coming players who've mostly been capped by Ireland already plus those total unknowns Earls, Aki, Healy, O'Brien, Larmour, Scannell...
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:12 pm A really nice touch was Bundee Aki presenting an Irish #11 jersey in the pre match. Sean Wainui's partner and kids walked out to collect it...

almost got a bit dusty in here at that stage.
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Mark Telea brought in to cover for Jordan on the wing…

I think that’s a fair call, he’s been performing on the wing and trying to fit another FB who can play wing type in isn’t necessary IMHO. The only real candidate for that role would be Bridge I think, and he hasn’t been demanding a place through form.

I’m assuming they had Jordie starting and probably BB as well. If they need to they can swing BB back and bring Mo’unga on. Not my preferred lineup but it’s probably how they’ll go.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:55 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:22 pm Reading ER's posts I was expecting this to be a bunch of no-hopers but it's largely up and coming players who've mostly been capped by Ireland already plus those total unknowns Earls, Aki, Healy, O'Brien, Larmour, Scannell...
Nice try. It was a shit team and god did they live up to their billing. Think Coombes was given a 6 by some journo here and that was the height of it. Happy enough to see a few lads get a go like Frawley and O'Brien. The latter is the messiah but today he was a very naughty boy
Leinster superstar Jimmy O'Brien?
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All Blacks to play Ireland:

15. Jordie Barrett
14. Sevu Reece
13. Rieko Ioane
12. Quinn Tupaea
11. Leicester Fainga'anuku
10. Beauden Barrett
9. Aaron Smith
8. Ardie Savea
7. Sam Cane (c)
6. Scott Barrett
5. Sam Whitelock
4. Brodie Retallick
3. Ofa Tuungafasi
2. Codie Taylor
1. George Bower

Reserves: Samisoni Taukei'aho, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Angus Ta'avao, Pita Gus Sowakula, Dalton Papalii, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Braydon Ennor.
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Scott Barrett at blindside is interesting. Glad it's not Akira, but was hoping for Vaa'i.
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What

The

Fuck.

That back row… I just,

Nah.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:51 pm What

The

Fuck.

That back row… I just,

Nah.
What combo would you have preferred?
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ABs scrum coach Greg Feek is out with covid. Mike Cron called in as cover.
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Gumboot wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:08 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:51 pm What

The

Fuck.

That back row… I just,

Nah.
What combo would you have preferred?
Papaili to start at 7 for my money, he's the best this year in that position.
That puts Cane in at 6 because god forbid we drop a captain and he goes alright there, whereas I don't like Scott Barrett anywhere near the back row...
and Sotutu should be in at 8. Ardie's not suited to playing 8 in my view, he's better at 7 or off the bench to cover.

Where's Sotutu?
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Possibly had Sotutu and Sowakula vying for the one spot, and they wanted to have a look at the relatively unknown quantity.
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That’s a raw looking mid field. But covid hasn’t helped.

And Scooter at 6?? That’s going to last max 10 minutes until he’s red carded for a tackle. Especially if he even brushes near Sextons face.
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Gumboot wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:32 am Possibly had Sotutu and Sowakula vying for the one spot, and they wanted to have a look at the relatively unknown quantity.
They'll never please me.

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Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:34 am That’s a raw looking mid field. But covid hasn’t helped.

And Scooter at 6?? That’s going to last max 10 minutes until he’s red carded for a tackle. Especially if he even brushes near Sextons face.
All part of Foster's nefarious scheme to shoehorn as many Barretts into the starting team as possible.
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Gumboot wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:39 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:34 am That’s a raw looking mid field. But covid hasn’t helped.

And Scooter at 6?? That’s going to last max 10 minutes until he’s red carded for a tackle. Especially if he even brushes near Sextons face.
All part of Foster's nefarious scheme to shoehorn as many Barretts into the starting team as possible.
He's Hansen's Puppet
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Ireland:

Hugo Keenan, Keith Earls, Gary Ringrose, Robbie Henshaw, James Lowe, Johnny Sexton (c), Jamison Gibson-Park, Caelan Doris, Josh van der Flier, Peter O’Mahony, James Ryan, Tadhg Beirne, Tadhg Furlong, Dan Sheehan, Andrew Porter.

Reserves: Dan Heffernan, Finlay Bealham, Cian Healy, Kieran Treadwell, Jack Conan, Conor Murray, Joey Carbery, Bundee Aki
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:40 am Would rather a few lads weren't on that team but we are bare bones. I don't think we are making it to the next world Cup intact. Where is NZ at? Shite? Getting shite? Very shite?


By NZ standards or compared to Ireland?

They are quite different scales.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:40 am Where is NZ at? Shite? Getting shite? Very shite?
Relying on sparks of individual brilliance to overcome a yawning gulf where coaching ability normally sits.
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Gumboot wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:39 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:34 am That’s a raw looking mid field. But covid hasn’t helped.

And Scooter at 6?? That’s going to last max 10 minutes until he’s red carded for a tackle. Especially if he even brushes near Sextons face.
All part of Foster's nefarious scheme to shoehorn as many Barretts into the starting team as possible.
We’ve gone full Barrett. You never go full Barrett
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Absent Blackadder I thought they'd play it safe and pick Akira at 6, so the Scooter call is a very positive sign imho.
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That AB team will beat Ireland 2/3 times. I reckon it'll be a blackwash with home advantage.
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Relatively weak looking AB side and a pretty strong looking Ireland. NZ by only 15.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:41 am That AB team will beat Ireland 2/3 times. I reckon it'll be a blackwash with home advantage.
You have to go back many years when the All Blacks have lost at home to any NH team. Think it was England when Johnston still played.

Wont happen in Fosters time anyway.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:41 am That AB team will beat Ireland 2/3 times. I reckon it'll be a blackwash with home advantage.
It'll be close in one game and that'll be it.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:28 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:08 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:51 pm What

The

Fuck.

That back row… I just,

Nah.
What combo would you have preferred?
Papaili to start at 7 for my money, he's the best this year in that position.
That puts Cane in at 6 because god forbid we drop a captain and he goes alright there, whereas I don't like Scott Barrett anywhere near the back row...
and Sotutu should be in at 8. Ardie's not suited to playing 8 in my view, he's better at 7 or off the bench to cover.

Where's Sotutu?
This 'ere post by GS is pretty much exactly what I think. I nearly dropped my fucking beer last night when I saw who was at 6 (thank god I didn't though). Before team selection I was 60% sure we got this. Now I'd be lucky to get near 40%. Foster you twat.
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This isn’t good…

https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-even ... ssessment/
New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has conducted a review of the Head Injury Assessment (HIA) process followed for Ireland prop Jeremy Loughman during the match between the Māori All Blacks and Ireland at FMG Stadium Waikato on Wednesday 29 June.

The following statement is from NZR Medical Manager Karen Rassmussen, who led the review.

“New Zealand Rugby has conducted a review of the HIA process during the Māori All Blacks match against Ireland at FMG Stadium Waikato in Hamilton on Wednesday 29 June. As a result of this review NZR believes Ireland prop Jeremy Loughman should not have been allowed back on to the field during the first half. While NZR stands by the HIA processes in place and is satisfied that player welfare is the number one priority for medical staff at the match, we have identified a gap in communications, which meant critical video evidence was not fully accounted for as part of the Head Injury Assessment (HIA) process undertaken by the independent match day medical team. We will be reinforcing the full HIA process and protocols for the remainder of the Steinlager Series to ensure video evidence is communicated more accurately between independent match day medical staff to enable them to make the right call with regards to player safety.” – NZR Medical Manager Karen Rasmussen
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:51 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:41 am That AB team will beat Ireland 2/3 times. I reckon it'll be a blackwash with home advantage.
It'll be close in one game and that'll be it.
If Ireland win game 1 then all bets are off I reckon. They need to go hard early and dent the ABs confidence.
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NZ Rugby’s casual approach to head injuries coming out again?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62007519
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:08 am This isn’t good…

https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-even ... ssessment/
New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has conducted a review of the Head Injury Assessment (HIA) process followed for Ireland prop Jeremy Loughman during the match between the Māori All Blacks and Ireland at FMG Stadium Waikato on Wednesday 29 June.

The following statement is from NZR Medical Manager Karen Rassmussen, who led the review.

“New Zealand Rugby has conducted a review of the HIA process during the Māori All Blacks match against Ireland at FMG Stadium Waikato in Hamilton on Wednesday 29 June. As a result of this review NZR believes Ireland prop Jeremy Loughman should not have been allowed back on to the field during the first half. While NZR stands by the HIA processes in place and is satisfied that player welfare is the number one priority for medical staff at the match, we have identified a gap in communications, which meant critical video evidence was not fully accounted for as part of the Head Injury Assessment (HIA) process undertaken by the independent match day medical team. We will be reinforcing the full HIA process and protocols for the remainder of the Steinlager Series to ensure video evidence is communicated more accurately between independent match day medical staff to enable them to make the right call with regards to player safety.” – NZR Medical Manager Karen Rasmussen
Strange that something is obvious to everyone except the Irish medical team? And presumably the coaches who put him back on? And the independent Dr missed it too?
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