England in Australia

[FalseBayFC]

Nice!

[Paddington Bear]

That’s a truly dismal performance. Smith running out of excuses with front foot ball and his preferred 9, but far from the only issue.

[Kiwias]

3 mins of reset coming up to kill off this game. How do refs allow this every week?

Hooper says “Hold my beer”

[Hal Jordan]

Absolutely bummed.

Are we playing 15, because we look like we are the way we're desperately scrambling I defence.

[Biffer]

This is an utter embarrassment for England given the circumstances.

Eddie will keep his job though, he’s nailed on until the RWC. Which is nice.

[Lobby]

Arundel scores with his first touch.

[PCPhil]

So why wasn’t he given more time Jones? Cvnt.

[Margin__Walker]

Seriously Eddie. Just start the kid next week

[Biffer]

That’ll be Arundell dropped from the 23 for next week.

[Tichtheid]

Wow, Arudell had no right to score that, brilliant

[FalseBayFC]

Arundel doing a Kolbe.

[petej]

Thick captain selected due to his obedience to the coach who has lost it = thick team. I can see why Nowell is in front of Arundell.

[sockwithaticket]

Arundell capped and making a mockery of being tossed on with the game almost done and already lost is about the best thing to come out of this game for us.

[Torquemada 1420]

That’ll be Arundell dropped from the 23 for next week.

Needs more Sarries.

[Kiwias]

Amazing try

[Ymx]

That kid is brilliant

[Torquemada 1420]

LMAO.

ASMO was right. Eng hammered by 14 men.

Correction. 13 men.

[dpedin]

Yet again Marcus Smith fails to live up the hype. Farrell should play 10.

Problem has been having Smith and Farrell on the pitch at the same time. I would let Smith play 10 and give him a proper 12 outside. Too many cooks ...

England defence has been awful coupled with complete lack of imagination in their back play. Going back to the Vunipolas is a big mistake, they are both pretty one dimensional now, they might be the big bully boys in the league but they're not good enough now at international level.

[Tichtheid]

Well well

Appetites whetted for next week at least

[petej]

Couldn't put the subs on as not trusted by Eddie until we had definitely lost.

[Tichtheid]

Yet again Marcus Smith fails to live up the hype. Farrell should play 10.

Problem has been having Smith and Farrell on the pitch at the same time. I would let Smith play 10 and give him a proper 12 outside. Too many cooks ...

England defence has been awful coupled with complete lack of imagination in their back play. Going back to the Vunipolas is a big mistake, they are both pretty one dimensional now, they might be the big bully boys in the league but they're not good enough now at international level.

England never really got on the front foot, not to any degree of dominance, no fly half is going to shine under those circumstances. I get the feeling people want Smith to fail

[PCPhil]

It’s an English thing.

[Gumboot]

Good second half.

[Torquemada 1420]

Sky trying to give Eng a draw

[ASMO]

Score absolutly flattered England happy for Arundell and VP, but they are wasted in this utter garbage team. It is still going to be 3-0 to Australia.

[Lobby]

Arundell touched the ball twice in his 5 minutes on the field, scored once and had a major hand in another.

[sockwithaticket]

Yet again Marcus Smith fails to live up the hype. Farrell should play 10.

Problem has been having Smith and Farrell on the pitch at the same time. I would let Smith play 10 and give him a proper 12 outside. Too many cooks ...

England defence has been awful coupled with complete lack of imagination in their back play. Going back to the Vunipolas is a big mistake, they are both pretty one dimensional now, they might be the big bully boys in the league but they're not good enough now at international level.

England never really got on the front foot, not to any degree of dominance, no fly half is going to shine under those circumstances. I get the feeling people want Smith to fail

Some people legitimately think Farrell should be 10

[sockwithaticket]

Arundell touched the ball twice in his 5 minutes on the field, scored once and had a major hand in another.

Made a mockery of being left on the bench so long, great to see.

[Torquemada 1420]

Some people legitimately think Farrell should be 10

Even after how many years of proof that it doesn't work.

[Biffer]

Don’t know what game Will Greenwood was watching.

[Kawazaki]

Problem has been having Smith and Farrell on the pitch at the same time. I would let Smith play 10 and give him a proper 12 outside. Too many cooks ...

England defence has been awful coupled with complete lack of imagination in their back play. Going back to the Vunipolas is a big mistake, they are both pretty one dimensional now, they might be the big bully boys in the league but they're not good enough now at international level.

England never really got on the front foot, not to any degree of dominance, no fly half is going to shine under those circumstances. I get the feeling people want Smith to fail

Some people legitimately think Farrell should be 10

Why not? It's his best position.

[notfatcat]

Yet again Marcus Smith fails to live up the hype. Farrell should play 10.

Problem has been having Smith and Farrell on the pitch at the same time. I would let Smith play 10 and give him a proper 12 outside. Too many cooks ...

England defence has been awful coupled with complete lack of imagination in their back play. Going back to the Vunipolas is a big mistake, they are both pretty one dimensional now, they might be the big bully boys in the league but they're not good enough now at international level.

We don't have a proper 12. I think we should either play Smith with a 12 who's actually a 12, or play Ford and Farrell. I think the latter is preferable.

England just looked clueless. At least Ludlum brought a bit of dog and Arundell a slice of magic.

[Ymx]

Farrell clearly still thinks he’s captain in that huddle

[Torquemada 1420]

Some people legitimately think Farrell should be 10

Why not? It's his best position.

Are you genuinely that blinkered? It may be his best position but he's so far from being an intl FH, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that he should not even be in the Eng squad.

[ASMO]

The main issue is in the midfield in that we don't have one, there is zero threat, zero penetration, zero creativity. If Farrell is not playing at 10, he should not be in the team. If England are looking to play a fast wide game, Smith is the answer Farrell on the bench at best.

[Kawazaki]

Some people legitimately think Farrell should be 10

Why not? It's his best position.

Are you genuinely that blinkered? It may be his best position but he's so far from being an intl FH, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that he should not even be in the Eng squad.

Your opinion carries a heavy caveat.

[Tichtheid]

Dingwall at 12?

Or is he usually a 13?

[sockwithaticket]

England never really got on the front foot, not to any degree of dominance, no fly half is going to shine under those circumstances. I get the feeling people want Smith to fail

Some people legitimately think Farrell should be 10

Why not? It's his best position.

The win rate with him at 10 and Ford at 10 is starkly different, it's statistical confirmation of what's seemed apparent when watching him down the years - can't get us firing. Now, some of that is England generally being crap all too often, but I don't think sticking him at 10 solves any of the problems we have, so why do it?

Even when he's been doing the business there for Sarries, he hasn't for England when given the opportunity.

[Kawazaki]

The main issue is in the midfield in that we don't have one, there is zero threat, zero penetration, zero creativity. If Farrell is not playing at 10, he should not be in the team. If England are looking to play a fast wide game, Smith is the answer Farrell on the bench at best.

England need to use pace in midfield instead of heft. They can't do that with Eddie Jones as head coach because he's not a good enough coach to select and prepare a side like that.

[Torquemada 1420]

The main issue is in the midfield in that we don't have one, there is zero threat, zero penetration, zero creativity.

All of that and you can throw in zero pace in the absence of May.