TheFrog wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:50 am
Torque and your myopic rabid rants.
1. Macalou - I did not answer because it is obvious. Despite average to poor performances in blue, he is a freak when he is focused and Galthie wants him in the squad because he is the only player he can play in the backrow or on the wing in a 6-2 bench configuration.
Re: Cros. Let me quote the Irish Time, in an article where they summarized the "defining moments" of the 2022 6N tournament.
Trailing by six points, Ireland had a much-needed lineout 10m from the French line. The opportunity didn't last long. Francois Cros beat Iain Henderson to the throw and France cleared.
Re: Jelonch - granted he didn't have his most shining 6N but his work in defense (64 tackles, best French performance) and his physicality in combat is one of the reasons why we did not give up ground against the likes of Ireland. This is what he brings. Muscle to balance Cros lighter profile and be available as a gain line option. He can play 8 as well, and just like Macalou, this plays in his favor to be a member of the squad. And for a big lump, he is fairly mobile, scoring 2 tries in the tournament- i know your view on that, these were just luck and you can't judge a player by the tries he scored. But I think he scored tries because he was well positioned in the right timing- and this is a skill when you have been moving meat just a minute before. I played backrow, I know what it means.
As for Leroux, he is far from his best now and despite being invited to the French training camp, he failed to impress the coaches.
1) So the answer then is, in that tactical formation, yes, Macalou has to start? Okay. Glad we finally cleared that up.
2) Re your comment on Cros. You've unwittingly aided my point, albeit using a sample size of one in 400 minutes of play. I clearly stated that he was not a lineout target for France i.e. on France's own throw. You offer us this which shows Cros winning a ball on Ireland's throw. Which tells us what? Think about it........... Yes....... opposition do not tend to throw where your best lineout jumpers are.
3) I'll keep returning to the point of a backrow when on defence these days. EVERY player (no more Garbajosas) is expected to make his tackles. The backrow's job is more than to fulfil that most basic requirement. At the very least, it is to attempt to slow down opposition ruck ball and, occasionally, turn it over. The French backrow does not do that. Except Aldritt......... who was Fra's leading turnover winner. And the next best?............... Danty (which is why he is ahead of Vakatawa), Fickou and then Villiere FFS. Anyway, the difference in tackles made between any of the backrow for France is negligible in terms of total and % missed, as one would expect. PS: Ntamack's missed tackle rate was 19% which makes him a revolving door in modern terms at twice the acceptable rate.
4) Just to remind you the team which conceded BY FAR the most turnovers in Europe this season was............. Toulouse........... who Aldritt does not play for.......... but Jelonch and Cros do. Oh. Talking of conceding turnovers, who were amongst the worst players for turning over ball during the 6N? Answer..... Jaminet and Ntamack. And the reason why is because when either of them actually runs with the ball, all too often it's into a dead end........ which is made worse where it's Ntamack because France's backrow is too poor at securing own ball. Note that Jaminet has some excuse because it's not unusual for 15s to concede the most turnovers because sometimes it happens when being the last defender: Hogg and Keenan were worse.
5) Agree on Le Roux. Like most of Racing, not playing at best at end of the season. But Jelonch hasn't had a good season ALL season.