fishfoodie wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:48 pm
Dogbert wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:57 pm
...and in the end Westminster having to grant a section 30 for a second indy ref , Truss , as PM, would hold all the cards.
Is it arrogant ,
maybe, is it stupid , probably not
It really is !
It's been obvious for years that you guys aren't used to having Referendums.
The result is much more about how the public feels about the different sides, than the argument being voted upon !
This shit just incrementally shifts everyone closer to voting for Independence, because it validates the SNP position that Westminster doesn't care what happens in Scotland, & that it doesn't really matter who's in power there, because its all the same. The Tories aren't popular in Scotland at the best of times, & their current Leader seems to be despised,, & their current Scottish Leader is an embarrassment, & now their new Leader is showing contempt for someone who at least voted into office by her Countrymen. Everything they do is just incrementally pushing people towards voting against whatever the Tories are for, & that right now means pushing for Scottish Independence.
With Brexit , and Bojo , we have barely seen the polls for Scottish independence move , there is no sign of any increasing of movement.People have become entrenched in their views, and I don't see any of that changing substantially
Liz Truss could announce a proposal of the killing of every Scottish newborn child , a a chunk of Sottish voters would roll behind it as a great idea.
Scotland , and to an extent Northern Ireland are just a political football for both the Tories & Labour.
The result of the next general Election will be interesting , we may well see a resurgence in the Labour party in Scotland. Not that the Labour party are any better than any of the current options ( i don't believe they are ), but simply that the current administration has a long record to defend , and with all administrations , they simply run out of steam , and people vote for a change , just for changes stake - the old " let some else have a shot."
Truss knows she will not win anything in Scotland , she has nothing to lose by she is saying , and the consequences that whatever she says will push people towards Indy ref 2 is probably fairly remote, but it does seem to be popular in the vote in England she is courting.
Any chance of a hung parliament, and that is entirely possible , and we have the image of Starmer in Sturgeons pocket , similar to Milliband / Salmond and that plays well to the Tories