God bless you M’am
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RIP to probably one of the best Monarchs of all time.
Just making the period 2020 to 2022 shittier than it already was.
First Betty White, now HRM Elizabeth....
Add Dolly Parton to that list and 2020/21/22 can claim the ultimate triumvirate of ladies who are just 'nice and decent'.
Just making the period 2020 to 2022 shittier than it already was.
First Betty White, now HRM Elizabeth....
Add Dolly Parton to that list and 2020/21/22 can claim the ultimate triumvirate of ladies who are just 'nice and decent'.
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I just realised it's my brother's birthday today. This gives me a reason to blame the doos for Lizzie's death and dislike him even more.
My wife just saw a photo on the FB page of our little town, taken in 1947, when she drove through our CBD sitting at the back of a convertible.
They probably had to drive much faster than usual due to the Springs types (SA's version of rednecks).
My wife just saw a photo on the FB page of our little town, taken in 1947, when she drove through our CBD sitting at the back of a convertible.
They probably had to drive much faster than usual due to the Springs types (SA's version of rednecks).
Been confirmed as Charles III by Clarence House.
Of course the interesting bit will be whether the Pope welcomes Charles III or IV….
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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So many questions....
Will the size of the banknotes of England increase to make space for Charles' ears?
Will the size of the banknotes of England increase to make space for Charles' ears?
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The Queen sees Diana in heaven and says "Nice halo!".
Diana replies "Fuck off, you of all people should know that's a steering wheel"
To soon?
Diana replies "Fuck off, you of all people should know that's a steering wheel"
To soon?
Pretty amazing all the tributes from all around the world, wouldn’t happen for many people.
Not much to add regarding her being a remarkable woman and obviously much loved by her family, so quite sad.
Energise, you got your bite earlier, you can stop trying so hard now
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Was that Oliver Cromwell?
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Interesting wee quirk of our fucking stupid constitution by convention. Tomorrow, the Accession Council is meant to sit, to confirm Charles as King. It should be chaired by the Lord President. Penny Mordaunt was appointed Lord President by new PM Truss on Tuesday, and was meant to be sworn in by the Queen at the Privy Council meeting last night. Which didn’t happen. The Lord President also then swears in the cabinet ministers. So no one, apart from Truss, is in post, officially, in the new government. So who chairs the accession council tomorrow?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:23 pm Interesting wee quirk of our fucking stupid constitution by convention. Tomorrow, the Accession Council is meant to sit, to confirm Charles as King. It should be chaired by the Lord President. Penny Mordaunt was appointed Lord President by new PM Truss on Tuesday, and was meant to be sworn in by the Queen at the Privy Council meeting last night. Which didn’t happen. The Lord President also then swears in the cabinet ministers. So no one, apart from Truss, is in post, officially, in the new government. So who chairs the accession council tomorrow?

ooops... there must be some convention written into Law that covers a situation like that.
Sad day today. She was a remarkable lady. Having lost my Gran recently it has stirred up a few emotions, particularly as like Harry, and maybe William I never got a chance to say my farewells. She felt like the nations Gran over the last few years.
Some wee things we've all become accustomed to will change life, at least or my lifetime.
QC's now officially KC'S, "King's English", who appears on money etc.
Apparently she will travel down the east coast and be in Edinburgh for a day. Would think it will be a busy day at St Gikes cathedral.
Some wee things we've all become accustomed to will change life, at least or my lifetime.
QC's now officially KC'S, "King's English", who appears on money etc.
Apparently she will travel down the east coast and be in Edinburgh for a day. Would think it will be a busy day at St Gikes cathedral.
Does that mean that Charles can’t be sworn in as King?Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:32 pmBiffer wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:23 pm Interesting wee quirk of our fucking stupid constitution by convention. Tomorrow, the Accession Council is meant to sit, to confirm Charles as King. It should be chaired by the Lord President. Penny Mordaunt was appointed Lord President by new PM Truss on Tuesday, and was meant to be sworn in by the Queen at the Privy Council meeting last night. Which didn’t happen. The Lord President also then swears in the cabinet ministers. So no one, apart from Truss, is in post, officially, in the new government. So who chairs the accession council tomorrow?![]()
ooops... there must be some convention written into Law that covers a situation like that.
Assume it reverts to whoever was last Lord President was?
Or perhaps the Queen has done her homework.
Whole point of convention is it isn’t written down, and it’s not law.Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:32 pmBiffer wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:23 pm Interesting wee quirk of our fucking stupid constitution by convention. Tomorrow, the Accession Council is meant to sit, to confirm Charles as King. It should be chaired by the Lord President. Penny Mordaunt was appointed Lord President by new PM Truss on Tuesday, and was meant to be sworn in by the Queen at the Privy Council meeting last night. Which didn’t happen. The Lord President also then swears in the cabinet ministers. So no one, apart from Truss, is in post, officially, in the new government. So who chairs the accession council tomorrow?![]()
ooops... there must be some convention written into Law that covers a situation like that.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
It’s weird - he’s king already but the accession council formalises it, or something. It’s all convention rather than anything else so there’ll be some kind of workaround. The previous guy is still a minister of state, just depends if there ends up being some behind the scenes pissing match between him and Penny Mordaunt.Ymx wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:42 amDoes that mean that Charles can’t be sworn in as King?Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:32 pmBiffer wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:23 pm Interesting wee quirk of our fucking stupid constitution by convention. Tomorrow, the Accession Council is meant to sit, to confirm Charles as King. It should be chaired by the Lord President. Penny Mordaunt was appointed Lord President by new PM Truss on Tuesday, and was meant to be sworn in by the Queen at the Privy Council meeting last night. Which didn’t happen. The Lord President also then swears in the cabinet ministers. So no one, apart from Truss, is in post, officially, in the new government. So who chairs the accession council tomorrow?![]()
ooops... there must be some convention written into Law that covers a situation like that.
Assume it reverts to whoever was last Lord President was?
Or perhaps the Queen has done her homework.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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It’s fascinating how despite being a Republican nation the French just get the idea of a monarchy better than anyone else outside the Commonwealth. I suppose the Fifth Republic is something of an elected monarchy.
As mentioned by others, the tributes are quite something and pretty much everyone who has met her seems to have admired her. Corbyn’s tribute was lovely
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
I was born in 1956, the Queen has been a fixture my entire life. I am quite surprised at how her death has affected me. It will be odd having someone else in the role. Personally I think she was a tad too conservative. She did not make many mistakes largely because she took no chances. But them can you blame her for that given the uproar that would ensue.
My position is that if we are going to have a ceremonial head of state, we may as well stick with the ones we have. I think Charles will be a good king. He has already indicated he will slim down the monarchy, and there will be other changes. Some will be popular, others not. I suspect he will make more mistakes than his mother simply because he will change things more.
The King gets a lot of flack, but he has probably done more direct good for more people than any royal in history. The Prince's Trust is the most successful charity of its kind in the UK and has now gone international. Through it nearly a million young people have been helped. That alone is an achievement to proud of, but there are other, smaller and less well known initiatives to which Charles has lent his weight and position to ensure success.
He is not perfect, but the focus seems to be always on his failings rather than his successes. He could have spent his life in idleness and luxury, but at least he has used his position for good.
My position is that if we are going to have a ceremonial head of state, we may as well stick with the ones we have. I think Charles will be a good king. He has already indicated he will slim down the monarchy, and there will be other changes. Some will be popular, others not. I suspect he will make more mistakes than his mother simply because he will change things more.
The King gets a lot of flack, but he has probably done more direct good for more people than any royal in history. The Prince's Trust is the most successful charity of its kind in the UK and has now gone international. Through it nearly a million young people have been helped. That alone is an achievement to proud of, but there are other, smaller and less well known initiatives to which Charles has lent his weight and position to ensure success.
He is not perfect, but the focus seems to be always on his failings rather than his successes. He could have spent his life in idleness and luxury, but at least he has used his position for good.
Yes, that's pretty much where I am.weegie01 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:51 am I was born in 1956, the Queen has been a fixture my entire life. I am quite surprised at how her death has affected me. It will be odd having someone else in the role. Personally I think she was a tad too conservative. She did not make many mistakes largely because she took no chances. But them can you blame her for that given the uproar that would ensue.
My position is that if we are going to have a ceremonial head of state, we may as well stick with the ones we have. I think Charles will be a good king. He has already indicated he will slim down the monarchy, and there will be other changes. Some will be popular, others not. I suspect he will make more mistakes than his mother simply because he will change things more.
The King gets a lot of flack, but he has probably done more direct good for more people than any royal in history. The Prince's Trust is the most successful charity of its kind in the UK and has now gone international. Through it nearly a million young people have been helped. That alone is an achievement to proud of, but there are other, smaller and less well known initiatives to which Charles has lent his weight and position to ensure success.
He is not perfect, but the focus seems to be always on his failings rather than his successes. He could have spent his life in idleness and luxury, but at least he has used his position for good.
One area I think he will not be silenced over is environment and climate, I have a feeling he will do his best to be a thorn in the side of successive governments, which is great. I also agree, I think he will be a good King and too many have written him off already.
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Yes indeed, we are: a) turning into North Korea style cult of personality; b) glorifying the life of an evil colonial oppressor...
Thank goodness the free minded Twatterati are teaching us the truth

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One of the nicest anecdotes I've read this morning:
She was in Kenya when she learned of her father's death. British hunter Jim Corbett, who stayed at the same lodge at the time, wrote in the visitor's guide book:
“For the first time in the history of the world, a young girl climbed into a tree one day a Princess and after having what she described as her most thrilling experience she climbed down from the tree next day a Queen.”
The "thrilling experience" referred to was her watching elephants from a treetop.
She was in Kenya when she learned of her father's death. British hunter Jim Corbett, who stayed at the same lodge at the time, wrote in the visitor's guide book:
“For the first time in the history of the world, a young girl climbed into a tree one day a Princess and after having what she described as her most thrilling experience she climbed down from the tree next day a Queen.”
The "thrilling experience" referred to was her watching elephants from a treetop.
I'm 4 years older and was born the year she became queen. Agree whole heartedly with your sentiments.weegie01 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:51 am I was born in 1956, the Queen has been a fixture my entire life. I am quite surprised at how her death has affected me. It will be odd having someone else in the role. Personally I think she was a tad too conservative. She did not make many mistakes largely because she took no chances. But them can you blame her for that given the uproar that would ensue.
My position is that if we are going to have a ceremonial head of state, we may as well stick with the ones we have. I think Charles will be a good king. He has already indicated he will slim down the monarchy, and there will be other changes. Some will be popular, others not. I suspect he will make more mistakes than his mother simply because he will change things more.
The King gets a lot of flack, but he has probably done more direct good for more people than any royal in history. The Prince's Trust is the most successful charity of its kind in the UK and has now gone international. Through it nearly a million young people have been helped. That alone is an achievement to proud of, but there are other, smaller and less well known initiatives to which Charles has lent his weight and position to ensure success.
He is not perfect, but the focus seems to be always on his failings rather than his successes. He could have spent his life in idleness and luxury, but at least he has used his position for good.
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The Cromwell Museum has Tweeted its condolences.
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Interesting from the official guidance at GOV.UK. There's really no obligation to go all out on cancelling events
MAJOR EVENTS, ENTERTAINMENT & SPORTS
There is no obligation to cancel or postpone events and sporting fixtures, or close entertainment venues during the National Mourning period. This is at the discretion of individual organisations.
As a mark of respect, organisations might wish to consider cancelling or postponing events or closing venues on the day of the State Funeral. They are under no obligation to do so and this is entirely at the
discretion of individual organisations.
If sporting fixtures or events are planned for the day of the State Funeral, organisations may want to adjust the event timings so they do not clash with the timings of the funeral service and associated processions.
As a mark of respect, and in keeping with the tone of National Mourning, organisers may wish to hold a period of silence and/or play the National Anthem at the start of events or sporting fixtures, and players
may wish to wear black armbands.
Weren't the previous two Charles from that time?Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:27 amThe Cromwell Museum has Tweeted its condolences.
I don't know what to say about this subject. I'm very definitely a republican, but I can see she was probably very good in her role.
On a personal level it's sad when anyone loses a mother, grandmother, great grandmother, but 96 is a very good long life.
RIP
I heard ten days after yesterday, so that would make in next weekend, more than likely the Monday.C69 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:34 am When is the likely funeral?
I hope that we will have a few days of national mourning/bank holidays
As an aside, we've had notification that the play we had booked tonight is going ahead, contrary to the cancelling of sporting events
tabascoboy wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:32 am Interesting from the official guidance at GOV.UK. There's really no obligation to go all out on cancelling events
MAJOR EVENTS, ENTERTAINMENT & SPORTS
There is no obligation to cancel or postpone events and sporting fixtures, or close entertainment venues during the National Mourning period. This is at the discretion of individual organisations.
As a mark of respect, organisations might wish to consider cancelling or postponing events or closing venues on the day of the State Funeral. They are under no obligation to do so and this is entirely at the
discretion of individual organisations.
If sporting fixtures or events are planned for the day of the State Funeral, organisations may want to adjust the event timings so they do not clash with the timings of the funeral service and associated processions.
As a mark of respect, and in keeping with the tone of National Mourning, organisers may wish to hold a period of silence and/or play the National Anthem at the start of events or sporting fixtures, and players
may wish to wear black armbands.
The last 2 proms concerts have been cancelled. TBF it would have been difficult to go ahead with the Last Night of the Proms as the programme for the concert, general air of celebration and the wall-to-wall flag-shaggers waving their EU flags would have been wholly inappropriate.
I was at a concert at the Wigmore Hall last night, which went ahead as planned. They had a portrait of the Queen draped in black ribbons in the foyer, and held a minutes silence before the concert began, which worked quite well.
Didn't he say that he'd want to be known as Defender of Faith rather than Defender of the Faith?C69 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:42 am I have already volunteered to take one for the team and work on the day of the funeral.
Is Charles going to known as Defender of the Faiths?
That story is being retold a lot in the local media, but there are not many sympathetic ears around Kenya. I'm keeping my royalist opinions to myself today!troglodiet wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:02 am One of the nicest anecdotes I've read this morning:
She was in Kenya when she learned of her father's death. British hunter Jim Corbett, who stayed at the same lodge at the time, wrote in the visitor's guide book:
“For the first time in the history of the world, a young girl climbed into a tree one day a Princess and after having what she described as her most thrilling experience she climbed down from the tree next day a Queen.”
The "thrilling experience" referred to was her watching elephants from a treetop.