This. Though I quite Enjoy him playing 10 are the Moment for the boks, His kicking will stand in his way to become the incumbent no 10. I still think his best position is 12, though with DDA and Esterhuizen he has quite the competition.Cartman wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:42 pm Is Willemse definitely out?
I guess he can still pass that second HIA thing, like Sexton did
He looked all right when he walked off
He certainly brings more energy to the backline but needs to improve his kicking if he wants to keep Pollard out in the future
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Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
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He was knocked out like a boxer. Can't see him pass that test. His defense was also outstanding like when we were 13 men.boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:43 amThis. Though I quite Enjoy him playing 10 are the Moment for the boks, His kicking will stand in his way to become the incumbent no 10. I still think his best position is 12, though with DDA and Esterhuizen he has quite the competition.Cartman wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:42 pm Is Willemse definitely out?
I guess he can still pass that second HIA thing, like Sexton did
He looked all right when he walked off
He certainly brings more energy to the backline but needs to improve his kicking if he wants to keep Pollard out in the future
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Tyrone Green? What are you smoking? Think KL Arendse is back this weekendia801310 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:00 pmFrancois Steyn, and call up Tyrone GreenOomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:40 pm Great win. Boks show real character to pinch that bonus point. Hats off to Louw and Fourie poaching in the end.
I The last round is going to be a rat race for the trophy.
We need to find a 10 real quick.
Also, thisYmx wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:41 am 78.25: Penalty.
78.50: Raynal – “Play on please”.
78.55: Raynal – “Quick play”.
78.56: Raynal blows time off. “Time off.
7 seconds elapses. “You play now. Time on.”
Three seconds.
78.59: Raynal “Ten?” – Foley looks back, begins kick.
79.04: Blows freekick
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I doubt if the TAB would agree. The ABs are (i) in front and (ii) at Eden Park, so the odds must surely favour them. Last year it was 57-22 to the ABs at Auckland, which if repeated this year would require SA to beat Argentina by 49 points!Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:59 am Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
Basically, everything needs to go well for the Boks while it only needs to go as expected for the ABs. Which obviously doesn't mean the Boks won't win, but the balance of probabilities don't favour them.
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Will be a bonus if the Bokke win the trophy.
More important is that if we play well , we look in far better prepared for the WC then any of the TRC team.
More important is that if we play well , we look in far better prepared for the WC then any of the TRC team.
Boks v Pumas is the last match. If the All Blacks win with a bonus point, the Boks will know what they need to do. Could be worth a winning margin bet, we've seen teams get improbably high scores before when they know they're required.Certain Navigator wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:17 amI doubt if the TAB would agree. The ABs are (i) in front and (ii) at Eden Park, so the odds must surely favour them. Last year it was 57-22 to the ABs at Auckland, which if repeated this year would require SA to beat Argentina by 49 points!Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:59 am Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
Basically, everything needs to go well for the Boks while it only needs to go as expected for the ABs. Which obviously doesn't mean the Boks won't win, but the balance of probabilities don't favour them.
Exactly._Os_ wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:03 amBoks v Pumas is the last match. If the All Blacks win with a bonus point, the Boks will know what they need to do. Could be worth a winning margin bet, we've seen teams get improbably high scores before when they know they're required.Certain Navigator wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:17 amI doubt if the TAB would agree. The ABs are (i) in front and (ii) at Eden Park, so the odds must surely favour them. Last year it was 57-22 to the ABs at Auckland, which if repeated this year would require SA to beat Argentina by 49 points!Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:59 am Ah, of course, I was wondering why they didn’t take the 3. They were gunning for the BP to keep RC in check.
So both NZ and SA at the top with 14 points.
Aus back with 10.
Arg on 9, who are out.
Aus needs to win with BP, and need Puma to beat the boks.
Between NZ and SA
SA are 13 points behind in for and against. So if they beat the pumas with BP and NZ don’t beat Aus with BP, then SA wins.
Or if only one of the two win they win the RC.
So, it will all come down to last match. Massive advantage here in playing second.
Got to say Boks are favourites to take the title now.
Basically, everything needs to go well for the Boks while it only needs to go as expected for the ABs. Which obviously doesn't mean the Boks won't win, but the balance of probabilities don't favour them.
It’s a great grandstand finale for the RC.
Seen the clip of Raynal explaining hid decision to White rather than "running away" as was reported. Fair play to him for that.
Based on the footage and him clearly telling Oz to get on with it I no longer think it is that harsh even if it was unusual.
Based on the footage and him clearly telling Oz to get on with it I no longer think it is that harsh even if it was unusual.
To be fair they should be raging. The ref was wrong... should have been a free kick not a scrum.Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
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The All Blacks opt the scrum after the free kick was given.
WaitingSards wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:00 pmNowLoveOfTheGame wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 amSo, you would be quite happy to fly in an uncapped player that has not been involved in the Bok camp at all during the RC or the Wales tests? A player whose form can be quite hot or cold on his day? In a must win game for the Boks?Sards wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:11 pm
Libbok. Most definitely. You must understand. Libbok has played at the Bulls, Sharks and Stormers. He knows everyone
Right... Nienaber and co must rather fly you in to Arg and start mining your obviously vast rugby intellect.
That’s actually a very good point.
Looked to me like he awarded the scrum without indicating a free kick 1st.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:13 pm The All Blacks opt the scrum after the free kick was given.
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Maybe Sanzar should allow a final for the two top teams. Springbokke vs All Blacks final will be nice.
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Raynal appears to be pissed off at the end of the conversation, with the aussies or nic white. From the way he tells him "if you didnt think i'm capable...". Was there more to it?Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
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yeah, the way he tells him that, there seems to have happend something earlier in the game. he seems pissed offYmx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:05 pm “If you think I’m not capable (to give a str… ) you make a mistake. Now you know it (finger pointed at chest)!”
Not quite sure the word he used. Perhaps an acronym.
I think I agree. Would be nice to have it played in a neutral stadium like twickenham. (Just up the road.)OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:50 pm Maybe Sanzar should allow a final for the two top teams. Springbokke vs All Blacks final will be nice.
Though it might just prove too many matches between the same teams, and feel a little tedious.
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Always worth remembering this is his second language and he is far from fluent.Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:05 pm “If you think I’m not capable (to give a str… ) you make a mistake. Now you know it (finger pointed at chest)!”
Not quite sure the word he used. Perhaps an acronym.
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Nobody would be surprised if the Springbok doctor is treating the players for a persecution complex but when they land in Durban on Monday morning it is to the good news that Hollywoodbets Kings Park is sold out for the return fixture against Argentina, and the Boks won’t find a doomsayer amongst the festive 46 000.
I doubt wheter there were very many posters who actually saw the Meads thing on field ot TV, I have never seen a clip of it as games weren't even televised then.Gumboot wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:01 amIs it just... in that case I'm sure you're able to provide plenty of examples of Kiwi posters vociferously defending Loe and Meads.Deepsouth wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:28 amRichard Lowe and Colin Meads send their regards.
The hypocrisy is quite something to see.....
Can't wait...![]()
I saw the Loe thing and thought at time as a one eyed AB supporter it was a dog act! Ref couldn't do much as I doubt he saw and ARs etc weren't part of game, so felt for him.
I've been told by some older Aussie mates that Meads actually ripped Catchpole's leg off and threw it into the stands, so that's good enough for me.Dan54 wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:11 pmI doubt wheter there were very many posters who actually saw the Meads thing on field ot TV, I have never seen a clip of it as games weren't even televised then.
I saw the Loe thing and thought at time as a one eyed AB supporter it was a dog act! Ref couldn't do much as I doubt he saw and ARs etc weren't part of game, so felt for him.
Loe was an equal opportunities thug - his favourite victims were Aussies, but his Kiwi opponents weren't safe either. Hard to forget the sickening sight of Greg Copper getting eye-gouged in the NPC Final.
FFS, do your fucking homework!! It did not cost the Aussies the Bledisloe Cup. Raynal's decision did not even mean that the ABs won the match, they still had to score a try, something the Wobblies should have been able to defend.Ymx wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:19 pm This is the best footage of it. And the chat afterwards.
Ironically followed by a parochial whine fest by the Aussies.
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I vaguely recall the commentators mentioning toward the close of the first half, with two Aussies sitting in the sin bin, that the ref was giving Foley a hurry up on a penalty kick to touch. The commentators noted something to the effect that Foley was trying to crib seconds off play while two men down.
And I've just been reminded by a comment in the NZ Herald that of course it was Foley himself who threw the blatant forward pass that led to an Aussie try. He was then twice told to hold on the conversion for a TMO check but knowing the try would consequently be rubbed out Foley ignored that instruction and converted, at which stage the try had to stand.
And I've just been reminded by a comment in the NZ Herald that of course it was Foley himself who threw the blatant forward pass that led to an Aussie try. He was then twice told to hold on the conversion for a TMO check but knowing the try would consequently be rubbed out Foley ignored that instruction and converted, at which stage the try had to stand.
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The hearing is tonight.
I had assumed it was in the daytime. Thanks
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There. That explains why Reynal was so pissed off at the end with white and foleyconvoluted wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:31 am I vaguely recall the commentators mentioning toward the close of the first half, with two Aussies sitting in the sin bin, that the ref was giving Foley a hurry up on a penalty kick to touch. The commentators noted something to the effect that Foley was trying to crib seconds off play while two men down.
And I've just been reminded by a comment in the NZ Herald that of course it was Foley himself who threw the blatant forward pass that led to an Aussie try. He was then twice told to hold on the conversion for a TMO check but knowing the try would consequently be rubbed out Foley ignored that instruction and converted, at which stage the try had to stand.
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YThe past 20 years it has usually been NZ dominating. Not amy more, so suddenly we have a proper tournament.assfly wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:47 am This has actually been the most entertaining RC I have watched in years. It's great that it comes down to the last weekend.