Akker van der Merwe seemingly badly injured last night in the Sale v LI game after getting croc rolled whilst in low attempting to jackal. Similar sort of incident to what did for Jack Willis and a few others.
Technically legal as it was round the torso, rather than the head and the limbs weren't directly targeted etc.
Just seems so high risk as a clearout in terms of the risk of serious injury. Is it something that need to be completely outlawed (so you need to just go north/south in any clearout with no lateral movement)? Could you outlaw it without having to change directives for the player attempting the jackal? Be even stricter on supporting your weight etc forcing the player to be more upright, as it's almost impossible to get a short squat player off the ball without running the risk of a clearout hitting the neck/head?
Just can't see it not being banned at some point.
Time to ban the croc roll?
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Margin__Walker
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It's definitely a problem as every law you tinker with around the ruck has unintended consequences.
You also want attacking teams to be able to secure their ball in most cases, but really don't think this kind of clear out can stay in the game.
You also want attacking teams to be able to secure their ball in most cases, but really don't think this kind of clear out can stay in the game.
Not if you’re first to the tackle. It’s still legal for the defender to grab at the ball.Mahoney wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:38 pm There’s already a law that says you cannot collapse a ruck, and a ruck is formed as soon as a player from each team is in contact over the ball. So I think it’s technically illegal already.
I was saying to remove that. Only player behind his own ruck and not connected to the ruck can use hands.
It'd be easier to say that if it was an unfortunate result of an accepted part of the game, like someone doing a knee ligament when tackled from the side.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:22 pm People get injured. You can't keep banning stuff before it's actually officially really tuddlywunks
But the croc roll is not only (I think most would agree) contrary to the laws, but allowed because they can't sort out other laws (jackaler often not supporting weight or trapping the ball in for a penalty OR not immediately blowing a legitimate attempt at a steal for not-releasing).
As YMX says... no hands... no jackals... you have to win the push...EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:02 pm You can't Bundee them, you can't grapple them. As noted and promoted let's just give the ball to the lads going forward and get used to 68-56 scores week in week out