OK.Fangle wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:51 pmThere is enough wrong about Trump that you don’t need to find extras like this
The same with locking kids in cages, which was fine when Obama was president.
Don’t assume what isn’t stated. It’s a bad habit of yours.Rinkals wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:15 pmOK.Fangle wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:51 pmThere is enough wrong about Trump that you don’t need to find extras like thisYer Man wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:24 pm
Isn't the rumour that her citizenship will be revoked if she divorces him?
The same with locking kids in cages, which was fine when Obama was president.
So the reason you're supporting Trump (or withholding your support for Biden, which basically amounts to the same thing) is because "Everybody does it, so why should it be an issue when it's Trump"?
Possibly expose the corruption that enabled her to obtain it in the first place.
Acquisition of U.S. citizenship
Knauss came to the United States from Slovenia in 1996. She resided in the U.S. briefly on a visitor's visa and then obtained H-1B work visas. In 2000 she petitioned for a right to permanent residency under the EB-1 program, a program designed for people with "extraordinary abilities."[46] According to information from the Migration Policy Institute, only two percent of people in their field would be expected to qualify.[47] The Washington Post reports that at that time Knauss's credentials included "runway shows in Europe, a Camel cigarette billboard ad in Times Square and — in her biggest job at the time — a spot in the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated, which featured her on the beach in a string bikini, hugging a six-foot inflatable whale."[46][47][48] In the analysis of Joel Gunter of the BBC, "[Melania Trump] does not appear at the time to have excelled in a niche area of modelling, nor won awards or had her work written about in significant publications"; Gunter reports a conjecture that "she may have been boosted by high-profile testimonial letters, said Nita Upadhye, a US immigration specialist at NNU Immigration Law. Testimonials form part of the application, and the more high-profile the reference the more weight it carries. If Mrs Trump, already dating Mr Trump at the time she applied, secured letters from luminaries in fashion, that would be significant, Ms Upadhye said."[46]
During the months that she campaigned with her husband prior to his successful bid for presidency, Melania Trump defended his hard-line on immigration practices and laws by stating that her own path and achievement of citizenship had been legal, unlike those of the individuals Donald Trump was campaigning against. However, investigative reporting done by the Associated Press revealed that she had been paid for 10 modeling jobs she had done before she had obtained her H1-B work visa and was still living in the U.S using her visitor visa. The Associated Press commented that "Foreigners are not allowed to use a visitor visa to work for pay in the U.S. for American companies. Doing so would violate the terms of that visa and could prohibit a foreigner from later changing his or her immigration status in the U.S. or bar the foreigner from the United States again without special permission to come back."[6]
Melania Trump obtained her citizenship in 2006. According to media reports she sponsored her parents, Viktor and Amalija Knavs, who went through the immigration process using "chain migration", a route that the president has repeatedly criticized.[49][50]
The H-1B is a visa in the United States under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H) that allows U.S. employers to temporarily employ foreign workers in specialty occupations. A specialty occupation requires the application of specialized knowledge and a bachelor's degree or the equivalent of work experience. The duration of stay is three years, extendable to six years; after which the visa holder may need to reapply. Laws limit the number of H-1B visas that are issued each year: 188,100 new and initial H-1B visas were issued in 2019.[1] Employers must generally withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes from the wages paid to employees in H-1B status.
The EB-1 is a preference category for United States employment-based permanent residency. It is intended for "priority workers". Those are foreign nationals who either have "extraordinary abilities", or are "outstanding professors or researchers", and also includes "some executives and managers of foreign companies who are transferred to the US".[1] It allows them to remain permanently in the US.
Therefore, applicants who can demonstrate their extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics through sustained national or international acclaim are not required to have a permanent offer of employment in the US and are eligible to self-petition, however, they must intend to work in the US in their field of expertise.[2]
The only rumors i heard a few weeks or so back is that she was renegotiating her prenup with Trump. So maybe she told him that she will praise him to high heaven if he increase her prenup terms. Looking at any public images of her and Trump together over the last 3 years does not seem to show much true love between those 2. Anyway, she is just a sideshow, Trump has enough going on himself that should be enough to keep him away from getting elected again in any sane democracy. Unfortunately I think this might be a lot closer than what people would want. I think democracy in the USA is completely broken, there are to many "legal" ways to stay in power there, without being the most popular.Fangle wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:51 pmThere is enough wrong about Trump that you don’t need to find extras like this
The same with locking kids in cages, which was fine when Obama was president.
ticketlessinseattle wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:31 pmyeah, if Trump loses it'll be another sideshow with plenty of angry fcuking morons but I dont see a military coup unfolding and I wouldn't fancy the chances of any knuckle dragging militia taking on the US federal forcesFangle wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm Whoever wins the election, I honestly see nothing serious happening. There might be a bunch making some noise, but not even a fraction of the size of the recent marches and damage caused in say Portland or Seattle.
Natural selection in action...Blackmac wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:35 pmticketlessinseattle wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:31 pmyeah, if Trump loses it'll be another sideshow with plenty of angry fcuking morons but I dont see a military coup unfolding and I wouldn't fancy the chances of any knuckle dragging militia taking on the US federal forcesFangle wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm Whoever wins the election, I honestly see nothing serious happening. There might be a bunch making some noise, but not even a fraction of the size of the recent marches and damage caused in say Portland or Seattle.
It would be fun to see them try though. A sort of live fire excercise for the real military.
In fairness, only Eric there is "nepotism." Melania is the first lady (whether she wants to be or not) and Tiffany doesn't have any sort of role in the administration that anyone, including her dad, is aware of.
And Jared/Ivanka have never been employed as advisors
If that's the kid that was getting chased by the mob and fell over, I would imagine it will be a pretty solid test of their "stand your ground" law.
Does Wisconsin have a stand your ground law? Transport of a weapon across state lines may also be an issue.Blackmac wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:44 pmIf that's the kid that was getting chased by the mob and fell over, I would imagine it will be a pretty solid test of their "stand your ground" law.
It looks like they have the Castle Doctrine, rather than Stand Your Ground. So you're allowed shoot a trespasser on your property (or in your car, etc) but not necessarily just any random threat on the street.Ata Rangi wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:57 pmDoes Wisconsin have a stand your ground law? Transport of a weapon across state lines may also be an issue.
dob wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:53 pmIt looks like they have the Castle Doctrine, rather than Stand Your Ground. So you're allowed shoot a trespasser on your property (or in your car, etc) but not necessarily just any random threat on the street.Ata Rangi wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:57 pmDoes Wisconsin have a stand your ground law? Transport of a weapon across state lines may also be an issue.Blackmac wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:44 pm
If that's the kid that was getting chased by the mob and fell over, I would imagine it will be a pretty solid test of their "stand your ground" law.
Also, Stand Your Ground apparently presupposes that the ground-stander was not themselves in the process of committing a crime, so yeah, transporting a firearm across state lines may be that.
https://milwaukee-criminal-lawyer.com/c ... ur-ground/
It may just be as simple as it's illegal to bring an undeclared weapon into Wisconsin, in which case, no. I don't know if there even is a federal law against transporting weapons..OverThere wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:58 pm If the border crossing is an issue does that change the jurisdiction of the murder from state law to federal law?
dob wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:09 pmIt may just be as simple as it's illegal to bring an undeclared weapon into Wisconsin, in which case, no. I don't know if there even is a federal law against transporting weapons..OverThere wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:58 pm If the border crossing is an issue does that change the jurisdiction of the murder from state law to federal law?
That can make sense.Got to love America. Quite happy to let a kid roam the streets with a lethal automatic weapon but hell mend him if he takes it to far from home..OverThere wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:58 pmdob wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:53 pmIt looks like they have the Castle Doctrine, rather than Stand Your Ground. So you're allowed shoot a trespasser on your property (or in your car, etc) but not necessarily just any random threat on the street.Ata Rangi wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:57 pm Does Wisconsin have a stand your ground law? Transport of a weapon across state lines may also be an issue.
Also, Stand Your Ground apparently presupposes that the ground-stander was not themselves in the process of committing a crime, so yeah, transporting a firearm across state lines may be that.
https://milwaukee-criminal-lawyer.com/c ... ur-ground/
If the border crossing is an issue does that change the jurisdiction of the murder from state law to federal law?
Too young to drink. Too young to vote. The cops just let him walk past. Bonkers.Blackmac wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:06 amGot to love America. Quite happy to let a kid roam the streets with a lethal automatic weapon but hell mend him if he takes it to far from home.
its not like Jared was given anything important to deal with though like the Palestinian/Israel "issue"....in fairness he does have some business interests there so that did give him some experience.OverThere wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:14 pmAnd Jared/Ivanka have never been employed as advisors
...Oh hang on.
Jared/Ivanka have never given advice...
No, not quite there yet
Jared/Ivanka have never given good advice...
Definitely not nepotism.
Look at Chelsea Clinton. She was employed as the Clintons daughter, twice..
That is the definition of nep.... something!
“How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?
the fact that its being debated whether a kid behaved lawfully while wandering the streets during a riot with a machine gun and kills 2 people tells you everything you need to know about US gun law or lack thereof. The fact that cops drove past and basically ignored him during a protest about a cop literally sticking a gun in a black mans's back and shooting him 7 times as he tries to get in a car with his kids in the backseat tells you everything you need to know about US race "relations".dob wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:09 pmIt may just be as simple as it's illegal to bring an undeclared weapon into Wisconsin, in which case, no. I don't know if there even is a federal law against transporting weapons..OverThere wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:58 pm If the border crossing is an issue does that change the jurisdiction of the murder from state law to federal law?
fcuk me - if only we had some good samaritans with assault rifles there to maintain the law while Jacob Blake was literally being shot in the backpenguin wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:08 am Christ. Just saw Tucker Carlson's latest mind-shart about the 17 year old who killed a couple of protesters...I've stayed off the political threads for a while, but I'd be interested to know if anyone thinks that Tucker is in any way justified in defending this?
“How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?
Strange times.ticketlessinseattle wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:15 amfcuk me - if only we had some good samaritans with assault rifles there to maintain the law while Jacob Blake was literally being shot in the backpenguin wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:08 am Christ. Just saw Tucker Carlson's latest mind-shart about the 17 year old who killed a couple of protesters...I've stayed off the political threads for a while, but I'd be interested to know if anyone thinks that Tucker is in any way justified in defending this?
“How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?
Good point. It's not that the cops are badly trained. They already have the mindset to harm people of colour.Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:15 am If only he'd waited a few years, then he could have been a cop.
who is fatter - Trump or Henry VIII?
I dont know what went down with the first shooting but in the video I saw there's a mob of people chasing him, one guy swinging a skateboard at his head and another armed with a handgun. Honestly I'm not surprised he shot them.Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:56 pm The video I saw of him being chased in the street and shooting, there's clearly someone saying that he's shot someone. He's an active threat basically.
You mean like the guys who shot Ahmaud Arbery?ticketlessinseattle wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:15 amfcuk me - if only we had some good samaritans with assault rifles there to maintain the law while Jacob Blake was literally being shot in the backpenguin wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:08 am Christ. Just saw Tucker Carlson's latest mind-shart about the 17 year old who killed a couple of protesters...I've stayed off the political threads for a while, but I'd be interested to know if anyone thinks that Tucker is in any way justified in defending this?
“How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?
From all accounts they are appallingly trained. About one fifth of the average law enforcement training that cops in Europe, Australia and Canada get.CrazyIslander wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:22 amGood point. It's not that the cops are badly trained. They already have the mindset to harm people of colour.Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:15 am If only he'd waited a few years, then he could have been a cop.
guy goes to a protest with an assault rifle and 2 people are now dead ;I'm trying to figure out who's fault that isNew guy wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:47 pmI dont know what went down with the first shooting but in the video I saw there's a mob of people chasing him, one guy swinging a skateboard at his head and another armed with a handgun. Honestly I'm not surprised he shot them.Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:56 pm The video I saw of him being chased in the street and shooting, there's clearly someone saying that he's shot someone. He's an active threat basically.
Cant comment on the first shooting though. Maybe he's in the wrong there, I dunno.
He went to the protest with the idea that the police needed help with the protesters right? Along with all his far right wing stuff.ticketlessinseattle wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:22 pmguy goes to a protest with an assault rifle and 2 people are now dead ;I'm trying to figure out who's fault that isNew guy wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:47 pmI dont know what went down with the first shooting but in the video I saw there's a mob of people chasing him, one guy swinging a skateboard at his head and another armed with a handgun. Honestly I'm not surprised he shot them.Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:56 pm The video I saw of him being chased in the street and shooting, there's clearly someone saying that he's shot someone. He's an active threat basically.
Cant comment on the first shooting though. Maybe he's in the wrong there, I dunno.
