The Mighty Italians and the refs vs the World Champion Springboks match thread

[Sards]

Lets save the rest of the world our ref whinging

[Sards]

Interesting....this is the anniversary of the last time the Italians beat us.......

[OomStruisbaai]

Vok why are you like your spoiled brat kids?

[Sards]

Springbok team to face Italy in Genoa:

15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 81 caps, 65 pts (13t)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon) – 22 caps, 61 pts (10t, 1c, 3p)
13 – Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 68 caps, 45 pts (9t)
12 – Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins) – 10 caps, 0pts
11 – Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls) – 5 caps, 20 pts (4t)
10 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 25 caps, 25 pts (1t, 4c, 4p)
9 – Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles) – 44 caps, 30 pts (5t, 1c, 1p)

8 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 19 caps, 5 pts (1t)
7 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 61 caps, 15 pts (3t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 73 caps, 45 pts (9t)
5 – Marvin Orie (DHL Stormers) – 8 caps, 0 pts
4 – Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers) – 2 caps, 0 pts
3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 56 caps, 5 pts (1t)
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (Cell C Sharks) – 53 caps, 55 pts (11t)
1 – Ox Nche (Cell C Sharks) – 17 caps, 0 pts

Replacements:

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 57 caps, 65 pts (13t)
17 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 69 caps, 5 pts (1t)
18 – Vincent Koch (Stade Francais) – 40 caps, 0 pts
19 – Eben Etzebeth (Cell C Sharks) – 108 caps, 15 pts (3t)
20 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 29 caps, 15 pts (3t)
21 – Evan Roos (DHL Stormers) – 1 cap, 0 pts
22 – Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 22 caps, 40 pts (8t)
23 – Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers) – 1 cap, 0 pts

[Sards]

Manie Libbok is still window dressing..........

These coaches have completely lost the plot

Andre Esterhuizen gets a game

[assfly]

I suppose this is the sort of game to give the likes of Orie, Moerat and Libbok a chance. But we need to be careful, this Italy team are no push-overs.

[Torquemada 1420]

Point of order, the Eyeties are at home.

[ASMO]

Thats a helluva Saffer bench

[Sandstorm]

Italian backs love to run the ball and are very good at it. Rush defence with a brand new 12 in there is going to be tested.

[sturginho]

I look forward to Italy being the beneficiaries of the anti-bok refereeing consipracy

[Raggs]

Clearly the only way Italy could do it is if the ref is biased, therefore if they win it's clearly not Rassie's fault. In fact I'm surprised we've not already had some videos of previous games the ref has done where he dared penalised SA.

I'll stop now.

Boks strong favourites but Italy are improving all the time now. A few beautiful tries and it could be a close run thing.

[OomStruisbaai]

Mismatch loose trio. Willemse and Willie to put AE in space. No chance the ball will get to our dangerous wings.

Hope Libbok and Roos get a decent run

[Tichtheid]

Thats a helluva Saffer bench

They're going 6/2 in case they are getting monstered up front!

[laurent]

I look forward to Italy being the beneficiaries of the anti-bok refereeing consipracy

CAPUOZZO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sturginho]

Pierre Bruno is from Genoa and is a Sampdoria supporter, so he will be in his "home" ground on Saturday. He says he's looking forward to some high balls coming his way.

They know the three of us aren't very tall and will try to take advantage. Challenge accepted.

He also is a fan of his opposite number

Mapimpi and Arendse are world class and I could be lining up opposite them. I need to focus on my job and not get star struck

[OomStruisbaai]

Dunno why he'll get star struck. Mapimpi isn't playing. We have midgets on the wing

[sturginho]

Dunno why he'll get star struck. Mapimpi isn't playing. We have midgets on the wing

Interview in today's La Republica, so before the bok team was announced

[OomStruisbaai]

Bruno has been brilliant all season. The Springboks rush defense has been the best by far. They'll need to be on their best on Saturday. Luckily the URC players experience will help them.

I think the Boks will play more running like last week.

[Chilli]

Willemse and Willie to put AE in space.

So that he can drop it? Or lose it in contact?

[OomStruisbaai]

Willemse and Willie to put AE in space.

So that he can drop it? Or lose it in contact?

According to the Sharks supporters he play excellent rugby, so let's keep our hope high.


I prefer 12s with brains.

[Sards]

Willemse and Willie to put AE in space.

So that he can drop it? Or lose it in contact?

According to the Sharks supporters he play excellent rugby, so let's keep our hope high.


I prefer 12s with brains.

I prefer a 10 with brains too

But beggars can't be chosers

[assfly]

According to the Sharks supporters he play excellent rugby, so let's keep our hope high.
I prefer 12s with brains.

watch some English premiership rugby and you'll see what I mean.

[Chilli]

According to the Sharks supporters he play excellent rugby, so let's keep our hope high.
I prefer 12s with brains.

watch some English premiership rugby and you'll see what I mean.

The thing is that he doesn't replicate his Premiership form at the Boks.

Remember the 2nd Welsh Test? His hands were complete crap.

[OomStruisbaai]

According to the Sharks supporters he play excellent rugby, so let's keep our hope high.
I prefer 12s with brains.

watch some English premiership rugby and you'll see what I mean.

I watch enough rugby, have no interest in EPS. I hope he performs.

[OomStruisbaai]

Mike Adamson the ref. Rassie better gets his video camera set. The worst referee in rugby.

[assfly]

The thing is that he doesn't replicate his Premiership form at the Boks.

Remember the 2nd Welsh Test? His hands were complete crap.

And how many tests has he played since joining Harlequins? He has not been given the opportunity to do so.

We dropped several balls against France on the weekend, but the same backline is starting.

[assfly]

I watch enough rugby, have no interest in EPS.

But enough to say that he has no brains? Ffs act your age.

[OomStruisbaai]

I watch enough rugby, have no interest in EPS.

But enough to say that he has no brains? Ffs act your age.

No man. I said I like 12s with more brains. Nothing about him having no brains.

Are you Irish?

[Sards]

According to the Sharks supporters he play excellent rugby, so let's keep our hope high.
I prefer 12s with brains.

watch some English premiership rugby and you'll see what I mean.

The thing is that he doesn't replicate his Premiership form at the Boks.

Remember the 2nd Welsh Test? His hands were complete crap.

He is still waiting for Willemse to pass the ball

Talk about a quota inclusion. Kolbe and Faf to kick for him. Willie to be his playmaker.

He is just there for the photos

Give me Libbok any day over him

[Sards]

Mike Adamson the ref. Rassie better gets his video camera set. The worst referee in rugby.

Here we go already

[Lobby]

Mike Adamson the ref. Rassie better gets his video camera set. The worst referee in rugby.

World Rugby are now trolling Rassie. SA can look forward to the worst refs officiating all their fixtures in the future, with instructions to ignore all but the most obvious infringements against the whinging Saffas.

[Sards]

Mike Adamson the ref. Rassie better gets his video camera set. The worst referee in rugby.

World Rugby are now trolling Rassie. SA can look forward to the worst refs officiating all their fixtures in the future, with instructions to ignore all but the most obvious infringements against the whinging Saffas.

I am surprised the refs want to officiate against the boks

[LoveOfTheGame]

Mike Adamson the ref. Rassie better gets his video camera set. The worst referee in rugby.

World Rugby are now trolling Rassie. SA can look forward to the worst refs officiating all their fixtures in the future, with instructions to ignore all but the most obvious infringements against the whinging Saffas.

That's actually funny... Give Rassie something to really moan about.

[Sandstorm]

He is still waiting for Willemse to pass the ball

Give me Libbok any day over him

If Libbok starts at 10, then Rasnaber will play 5Bar @ 12

[Sards]

He is still waiting for Willemse to pass the ball

Give me Libbok any day over him

If Libbok starts at 10, then Rasnaber will play 5Bar @ 12

I just want to see something. Libbok waa fantastic at the Stormers. His play making, kicking. He took me completely by surprise after his failings at the Bulls and Sharks. I reckon we will start getting backline tries with him at 10. Currently we are relying on Willie to make our backline work.

So I just want to see what Libbok does a full match at international level. He could be the answer we are looking for to become a more attacking side.
I just think of Mapimpi.
He was on 19 tries on 20 matches before Rassnabber took over. Now he never sees the ball.
And then Libbok might just flop. But let's see now before it's too late

This is what frustrates me about our current setup.
They are always under pressure.
For the BILS we were on the ropes from the get go so no chance to blood new players.
Then the RC....exactly the same thing.
This tour.......exactly the same thing.
It just means we are not giving worthy players a chance because we are always under pressure to produce results. So the same old team gets trundled out each time and gets results that justifies their positions based on no competition from newcomers.

[Chilli]

The thing is that he doesn't replicate his Premiership form at the Boks.

Remember the 2nd Welsh Test? His hands were complete crap.

And how many tests has he played since joining Harlequins? He has not been given the opportunity to do so.

We dropped several balls against France on the weekend, but the same backline is starting.

I never said that the current players are better.

All that I said was that AE is excellent for Quins and on his limited Bok games has never been able to play at the same standard.

[sockwithaticket]

Mike Adamson the ref. Rassie better gets his video camera set. The worst referee in rugby.

World Rugby are now trolling Rassie. SA can look forward to the worst refs officiating all their fixtures in the future, with instructions to ignore all but the most obvious infringements against the whinging Saffas.

I am surprised the refs want to officiate against the boks

I'm not sure that any do want to at this point, but someone has to draw the short straw otherwise there's no fixture.

[Sards]

World Rugby are now trolling Rassie. SA can look forward to the worst refs officiating all their fixtures in the future, with instructions to ignore all but the most obvious infringements against the whinging Saffas.

I am surprised the refs want to officiate against the boks

I'm not sure that any do want to at this point, but someone has to draw the short straw otherwise there's no fixture.

I can pretty much picture that.....

[OomStruisbaai]

I am surprised the refs want to officiate against the boks

I'm not sure that any do want to at this point, but someone has to draw the short straw otherwise there's no fixture.

I can pretty much picture that.....

[PCPhil]

Looking back at selective highlights in ultra slow mo I reckon the ref in the Ireland match liked the odd pint of Guinness, if you catch my drift.