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Slick wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:21 pm They are absolutely terrified of Saka
Imagine with a ref that didn't let them repeatedly foul him. Then again this is very much the fault of english prem refs who let teams kick him all over the place in week in week out- it is weird stuff that it is a foul on gabriel jesus, odegaard, martinelli etc... just isn't on Saka.
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Surprised Saliba can't make the french team. Upemecano has been very lucky.
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petej wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:32 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:21 pm They are absolutely terrified of Saka
Imagine with a ref that didn't let them repeatedly foul him. Then again this is very much the fault of english prem refs who let teams kick him all over the place in week in week out- it is weird stuff that it is a foul on gabriel jesus, odegaard, martinelli etc... just isn't on Saka.
You can see why basketball has the notion of a team foul. Smart sides just kick the biggest threat off the park by cynical, systematic rotation of offenders. Pele suffered it his entire career.
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Oof. Great cross.
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Totally against the run of play.
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Luke Shaws crosses are so crap. They hang in the air too long and are always overhit.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:37 pm Oof. Great cross.
Only thing he's done all night!
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Hugo wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:38 pm Luke Shaws crosses are so crap. They hang in the air too long and are always overhit.
Losing both James and Chilwell before the tournament was a big blow.
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Did they really just take Saka off? I switched over for a moment, was he injured
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You can't do that in rugby FFS!
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Slick wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:40 pm Did they really just take Saka off? I switched over for a moment, was he injured
Probably a little injured and very tired. He's done a huge amount of running.
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what is the french defender doing on that.
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I don’t fancy him getting this…
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Should've made him take longer.
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What TF is it with Eng and pens? :crazy:
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Oh dear
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Fuuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Slick wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:43 pm I don’t fancy him getting this…
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:44 pm What TF is it with Eng and pens? :crazy:
Wtf is with le French giving away obvious pens?
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Looks even worse side on. Leaning back :wtf:
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More annoyed that upset.

Suppose the difference is France better at finishing
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:46 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:44 pm What TF is it with Eng and pens? :crazy:
Wtf is with le French giving away obvious pens?
Like I've been saying all tournie, this is a very lazy Fre side. Reminds me of Fre rugby for so many, many years. Some ability but lazy, no brains and no composure. Some of this defending would have been embarrassing at the Riverside this afternoon.
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8 minutes :lol:
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Since the pen it's been constant whistle. Not sure England will get going here. 8 minutes though, whew.
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Shaw really is awful at crosses
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"Can he get a good cross in??"

No of course not
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Please god let Morocco win this comp.
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tc27 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:47 pm More annoyed that upset.

Suppose the difference is France better at finishing
Same. Removal of Saka and Foden lowers the quality of the front 3. Sterling and Rashford are different players and i would argue not as good. French defence have done well with the crossing threat.
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tc27 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:47 pm More annoyed that upset.

Suppose the difference is France better at finishing
100% this. See all my posts re Brazil. It's not chances carved out, shots or shots on target that matter but goals. Regardless of the ref, Eng had enough chances to win this and Fra created f**k all.
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Well I can't help but feel slightly responsible. It's the first match that I've watched in this world cup and it all goes to shit
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Cometh the Rashford
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Another dumb free kick conceded by Fra.
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Well, defo the best side (by some margin) lost but also only themselves to blame for not at least making extra time.
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Congrats France 🇫🇷 👏

England better for big periods but could not make it count
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Small margins, hey. Well done France. Well done England, honestly - pretty good performance.

Won't say I told you so because I thought England would be outclassed but that didn't happen, could easily have come out winners on the night.
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England keep their average up, out in the quarters as usual.
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Oh dear, poor old England. Unlucky again.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:02 pm England keep their average up, out in the quarters as usual.
Best chance they had to be world champions in decades.
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Right. Might as well start packing the rugby shirts into the loft for a few years. :|
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