Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Biffer]

The worst thing about this is that these Tory fuckers don’t actually understand what productivity is.

[fishfoodie]

The worst thing about this is that these Tory fuckers don’t actually understand what productivity is.

Sure they do !

It's other people working harder, for less money (relatively), while those same MPs, get paid more, for less work.

How many days work did those Tory MPs do, while they were fucking about to elect a new Leader who lasted as long as an Election promise ?

[Biffer]

The worst thing about this is that these Tory fuckers don’t actually understand what productivity is.

Sure they do !

It's other people working harder, for less money (relatively), while those same MPs, get paid more, for less work.

How many days work did those Tory MPs do, while they were fucking about to elect a new Leader who lasted as long as an Election promise ?

That’s my point. That’s not productivity, in economic terms.

[Insane_Homer]

The Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen has been suspended from the House of Commons for five days after being found to have breached rules on paid lobbying and declaring interests.

The MP for north-west Leicestershire was found to have repeatedly broken the MPs’ code of conduct by a cross-party committee, which endorsed findings from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards.

[dpedin]

The Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen has been suspended from the House of Commons for five days after being found to have breached rules on paid lobbying and declaring interests.

The MP for north-west Leicestershire was found to have repeatedly broken the MPs’ code of conduct by a cross-party committee, which endorsed findings from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards.

This will be the same Bridgen MP who lost a recent court case against his family business, when the judge said he clearly lied under oath when giving evidence, asked police to falsely investigate his brother and who has to pay substantive fine? The same Bridgen MP who is going full on anti-vaxer who believes that Invermectin would have saved thousands but was blocked by Big Pharma and that mNRA vaccines are killing people? I wonder what his Serbian Opera singer 2nd wife thinks of him?

[SaintK]

Slimey Shapps in photoshopped photograph, shock horror. Or was it Michael Green?

[Biffer]

That is truly beautiful on so many levels.

[tabascoboy]

[SaintK]

Lest we forget!

Several sources reveal the incredulity inside Number 10 at his initial absolute denials to Parliament on December 8 2021, the day after the mock press conference was aired, when he said: “I am sure that whatever happened, the guidance was followed and the rules were followed at all times.”
One source recalls: “We all watched it live and we were just gobsmacked. We all looked at each other and thought ‘why the hell is he saying this?’ We all know it had happened, he knew it happened - he was there.
“We were all just shocked that he would even deny it. He was there. We were there. We were all there together. And suddenly he’s denying it.”

[SaintK]

Oh and while we're at it. He must have some seriously bad stuff on the Bamfords for them to forgo £30k a month rental on the property. Of course he's only registering the "gift value" at £10k on the MP's gift register

[Hal Jordan]

Which goes done way to explain the Tory love for the hydrogen hopium bullshit.

[SaintK]

The Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen has been suspended from the House of Commons for five days after being found to have breached rules on paid lobbying and declaring interests.

The MP for north-west Leicestershire was found to have repeatedly broken the MPs’ code of conduct by a cross-party committee, which endorsed findings from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards.

This will be the same Bridgen MP who lost a recent court case against his family business, when the judge said he clearly lied under oath when giving evidence, asked police to falsely investigate his brother and who has to pay substantive fine? The same Bridgen MP who is going full on anti-vaxer who believes that Invermectin would have saved thousands but was blocked by Big Pharma and that mNRA vaccines are killing people? I wonder what his Serbian Opera singer 2nd wife thinks of him?

Breaking news on Bridgen!!!

MP Andrew Bridgen suspended by Conservative party for spreading misinformation about Covid vaccine, chief whip says

[tabascoboy]

This will be the same Bridgen MP who lost a recent court case against his family business, when the judge said he clearly lied under oath when giving evidence, asked police to falsely investigate his brother and who has to pay substantive fine? The same Bridgen MP who is going full on anti-vaxer who believes that Invermectin would have saved thousands but was blocked by Big Pharma and that mNRA vaccines are killing people? I wonder what his Serbian Opera singer 2nd wife thinks of him?

Breaking news on Bridgen!!!

MP Andrew Bridgen suspended by Conservative party for spreading misinformation about Covid vaccine, chief whip says

So it took until now? His earlier, very well publicised misdemeanours somehow weren't enough?

[fishfoodie]

This will be the same Bridgen MP who lost a recent court case against his family business, when the judge said he clearly lied under oath when giving evidence, asked police to falsely investigate his brother and who has to pay substantive fine? The same Bridgen MP who is going full on anti-vaxer who believes that Invermectin would have saved thousands but was blocked by Big Pharma and that mNRA vaccines are killing people? I wonder what his Serbian Opera singer 2nd wife thinks of him?

Breaking news on Bridgen!!!

MP Andrew Bridgen suspended by Conservative party for spreading misinformation about Covid vaccine, chief whip says

So it took until now? His earlier, very well publicised misdemeanours somehow weren't enough?

It would have been a dangerous precedent to suspend him for perjury, or for being a crook; but their aren't enough anti-vaxers in the Party to make that too dangerous a charge

[tabascoboy]

Breaking news on Bridgen!!!

So it took until now? His earlier, very well publicised misdemeanours somehow weren't enough?

It would have been a dangerous precedent to suspend him for perjury, or for being a crook; but their aren't enough anti-vaxers in the Party to make that too dangerous a charge

Fair point, the domino effect would have been too impactful!

[SaintK]

So it took until now? His earlier, very well publicised misdemeanours somehow weren't enough?

It would have been a dangerous precedent to suspend him for perjury, or for being a crook; but their aren't enough anti-vaxers in the Party to make that too dangerous a charge

Fair point, the domino effect would have been too impactful!

He really needs to be deselected by his constituency party, he's a ccomplete nutter as well as an absolute cunt of a man

In recent weeks, he has become increasingly vocal in his criticism of programmes to vaccinate people against Covid-19.
Posting a link to an article on vaccines earlier, he added: "As one consultant cardiologist said to me, this is the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64236687

[fishfoodie]

It would have been a dangerous precedent to suspend him for perjury, or for being a crook; but their aren't enough anti-vaxers in the Party to make that too dangerous a charge

Fair point, the domino effect would have been too impactful!

He really needs to be deselected by his constituency party, he's a ccomplete nutter as well as an absolute cunt of a man

In recent weeks, he has become increasingly vocal in his criticism of programmes to vaccinate people against Covid-19.
Posting a link to an article on vaccines earlier, he added: "As one consultant cardiologist said to me, this is the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64236687

Hence his appeal to the local Tory Party selection committee !

If they were to deselect him, I imagine he'd immediately defect to the Reform mob, & he'd cannibalize the Tory vote in the next GE.

[Tichtheid]

Not directly the Tories, but GB News, Covid conspiracies and other right wing nut-jobbery

https://www.private-eye.co.uk/media-news

[fishfoodie]

Not directly the Tories, but GB News, Covid conspiracies and other right wing nut-jobbery

https://www.private-eye.co.uk/media-news

GB News is the one funded by Qatar, is it ?

[SaintK]

Not directly the Tories, but GB News, Covid conspiracies and other right wing nut-jobbery

https://www.private-eye.co.uk/media-news

GB News is the one funded by Qatar, is it ?

Nope Dubai based

GB News is owned by All Perspectives Ltd, which is a holding company, headquartered in London. As of August 2022, All Perspectives Ltd is controlled by three significant shareholders, all of whom work for Christopher Chandler's Dubai-based investment firm Legatum.

[fishfoodie]

Seems some of his fellow Tory MPs share our opinion of him; what's interesting is to get such a comment attributed to a named MP.

On Wednesday night, Andrew Percy, a Tory MP and the vice chairman of the all-party parliamentary group on anti-Semitism, demanded Mr Bridgen be told that he cannot stand in his North West Leicestershire seat at the next election for spreading misinformation.
....
Asked on Times Radio whether Mr Bridgen should be allowed to stand as a Conservative MP at the next election, Mr Percy said: “I don’t think anybody who believes this kind of c--- should.

“The Holocaust was the state-sponsored murder of six million Jews and others. To compare that to the vaccine rollout is, frankly, sick. 

“It’s disgusting... sadly, you know it’s not unexpected amongst the anti-vaxxer movement, but for an MP to retweet that I think is just completely and utterly disgraceful.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... holocaust/

[Biffer]

Seems some of his fellow Tory MPs share our opinion of him; what's interesting is to get such a comment attributed to a named MP.

On Wednesday night, Andrew Percy, a Tory MP and the vice chairman of the all-party parliamentary group on anti-Semitism, demanded Mr Bridgen be told that he cannot stand in his North West Leicestershire seat at the next election for spreading misinformation.
....
Asked on Times Radio whether Mr Bridgen should be allowed to stand as a Conservative MP at the next election, Mr Percy said: “I don’t think anybody who believes this kind of c--- should.

“The Holocaust was the state-sponsored murder of six million Jews and others. To compare that to the vaccine rollout is, frankly, sick. 

“It’s disgusting... sadly, you know it’s not unexpected amongst the anti-vaxxer movement, but for an MP to retweet that I think is just completely and utterly disgraceful.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... holocaust/

Really wondering if that’s crap or cunt

[fishfoodie]

Seems some of his fellow Tory MPs share our opinion of him; what's interesting is to get such a comment attributed to a named MP.

On Wednesday night, Andrew Percy, a Tory MP and the vice chairman of the all-party parliamentary group on anti-Semitism, demanded Mr Bridgen be told that he cannot stand in his North West Leicestershire seat at the next election for spreading misinformation.
....
Asked on Times Radio whether Mr Bridgen should be allowed to stand as a Conservative MP at the next election, Mr Percy said: “I don’t think anybody who believes this kind of c--- should.

“The Holocaust was the state-sponsored murder of six million Jews and others. To compare that to the vaccine rollout is, frankly, sick. 

“It’s disgusting... sadly, you know it’s not unexpected amongst the anti-vaxxer movement, but for an MP to retweet that I think is just completely and utterly disgraceful.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... holocaust/

Really wondering if that’s crap or cunt

I was thinking cunt, or cock (does cock even warrant *'s ?)

I think we've invented a new version of wordle

[I like neeps]

We've so successfully created a low tax, high wealth economy from 4 decades of inflating house prices relentlessly we're going to further benefit the people who advantaged from it because it's screwed up our economy.

[Sandstorm]

I've just turned 50, but even I think removing me from my income tax responsibilities is ludicrous!!

[GogLais]

We've so successfully created a low tax, high wealth economy from 4 decades of inflating house prices relentlessly we're going to further benefit the people who advantaged from it because it's screwed up our economy.

Got to be a windup. Surely?

[tabascoboy]

We've so successfully created a low tax, high wealth economy from 4 decades of inflating house prices relentlessly we're going to further benefit the people who advantaged from it because it's screwed up our economy.

Got to be a windup. Surely?

You'd think it would be only at the "under consideration" stage, but let's face it they probably realise that they have to effectively bribe what has been their core support demographic to keep the faith, while they think they can afford to further alienate younger voters?

[ASMO]

We've so successfully created a low tax, high wealth economy from 4 decades of inflating house prices relentlessly we're going to further benefit the people who advantaged from it because it's screwed up our economy.

Got to be a windup. Surely?

You'd think it would be only at the "under consideration" stage, but let's face it they probably realise that they have to effectively bribe what has been their core support demographic to keep the faith, while they think they can afford to further alienate younger voters?

I guarantee there will be some sort of state pension adjustment to balance it out, you pay no income tax from 50, you get a smaller pension

[GogLais]

We've so successfully created a low tax, high wealth economy from 4 decades of inflating house prices relentlessly we're going to further benefit the people who advantaged from it because it's screwed up our economy.

Got to be a windup. Surely?

You'd think it would be only at the "under consideration" stage, but let's face it they probably realise that they have to effectively bribe what has been their core support demographic to keep the faith, while they think they can afford to further alienate younger voters?

If that doesn’t gee up young voters then I can’t see what would.

[yermum]

*throws dead cat onto the dining room table*

that should do it I reckon.

[Lobby]

We've so successfully created a low tax, high wealth economy from 4 decades of inflating house prices relentlessly we're going to further benefit the people who advantaged from it because it's screwed up our economy.

Got to be a windup. Surely?

I think this is probably intended to be a response to the current shortage of workers in several key sectors, and the increasing numbers of 'economically inactive' people in the over 50 age group (that is people who are neither employed nor looking for work).

However, most of the over 50s who are economically inactive are not seeking work because of the tax system, but because of long-term ill health. This has been exacerbated by the pandemic and the effective collapse of large parts of the NHS

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ill-health

"The number of over-50s out of the labour force because of long-term sickness has increased in every part of the UK other than London, with a 20% rise in Wales, and a 13% increase in the north-west of England and the West Midlands.

Figures show the number of working-age adults out of the labour force due to long-term ill health has risen to a record of almost 2.5 million. Almost a quarter would like to work if they felt they had the opportunity or the support to do so....

Some experts, including Andy Haldane, a former Bank of England chief economist, have said underinvestment in public services and lengthy NHS waiting times could be contributing to the decline in workforce participation."

The answer to this problem isn't to reduce their taxes, but to properly fund the healthcare system so that these people can regain their health and return to work. This is yet another example of the Tories' obsession with reducing taxes (especially for their voters) as the answer to every ill.

[Biffer]

The other part of this is that the last ten or fifteen years has made work absolutely fucking miserable for a lot of people. If they can afford not to go back, why the fuck would they?

Edit - the above is true for whole ranges of people as well, from low paid low skill jobs up through management roles and into specialisms like medicine or engineering.

[Tichtheid]

Apparently a fair whack of people in the 50+ age group threw in their cards during the pandemic, thinking, "Fuck this, I can get by, stuff working"

[Biffer]

Apparently a fair whack of people in the 50+ age group threw in their cards during the pandemic, thinking, "Fuck this, I can get by, stuff working"

Yeah, we had a number of senior project managers, mechanical engineers etc retire a few years early.

[Tichtheid]

Apparently a fair whack of people in the 50+ age group threw in their cards during the pandemic, thinking, "Fuck this, I can get by, stuff working"

Yeah, we had a number of senior project managers, mechanical engineers etc retire a few years early.

It's a lot of collective experience that has gone, it's like when the Tories made a whole tranche of the civil service redundant at mid to senior level in the late 80s and 90s and then realised that they had no one left that knew how to run the country.

Oops!

[tabascoboy]

over 50s who are economically inactive

That's me, and through choice of being able to support myself in early retirement through occupational pension. Nothing short of impending absolute penury would force me back into work now - 35 years of commuting and the daily grind were quite enough, thanks.

How many employers want to welcome back over 50s, who will reasonably expect to be paid competitively for their age and experience? I can see some work environments being open to solving short term needs in this way, where skilled workers are in short supply and applicants have recent work experience and no doubt there will be takers but it also risks being a kick in the teeth for people with aspiring careers looking to progress and finding their way blocked by returnees?

[fishfoodie]

I assume this is just a way for the, "Never Rishi's", to attack him ?

Rishi Sunak is facing a major backbench rebellion over the government's plans to prevent harmful material on the internet.

Thirty-six Tory MPs are backing a plan to make social media bosses face prison if they fail to protect children from damaging content online.

Their amendment to the Online Safety Bill is due to be voted on next week.

The idea was suggested under Boris Johnson, but eventually dismissed in favour of higher fines for firms.

The rebellion follows other significant backbench revolts in recent weeks over housing targets for councils and restrictions on onshore wind farms.

On both of those issues, the prime minister backed down and offered concessions to avoid defeat in the House of Commons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64247034

[Sandstorm]

"The number of over-50s out of the labour force because of long-term sickness has increased in every part of the UK other than London, with a 20% rise in Wales,

Almost a quarter would like to work if they felt they had the opportunity or the support to do so....

REFRY 101

[Dinsdale Piranha]

over 50s who are economically inactive

That's me, and through choice of being able to support myself in early retirement through occupational pension. Nothing short of impending absolute penury would force me back into work now - 35 years of commuting and the daily grind were quite enough, thanks.

How many employers want to welcome back over 50s, who will reasonably expect to be paid competitively for their age and experience? I can see some work environments being open to solving short term needs in this way, where skilled workers are in short supply and applicants have recent work experience and no doubt there will be takers but it also risks being a kick in the teeth for people with aspiring careers looking to progress and finding their way blocked by returnees?

I have been approached by colleagues at 2 companies saying they are desperate for experienced people and I should apply and return to work. In both cases the expression 'you could do the job with your eyes shut' came up :)

One of these companies has a reputation for being pretty ruthless and there's no way they'd be seeking out older people unless they were missing some particular set of skills that their younger folks don't have.

[GogLais]

over 50s who are economically inactive

That's me, and through choice of being able to support myself in early retirement through occupational pension. Nothing short of impending absolute penury would force me back into work now - 35 years of commuting and the daily grind were quite enough, thanks.

How many employers want to welcome back over 50s, who will reasonably expect to be paid competitively for their age and experience? I can see some work environments being open to solving short term needs in this way, where skilled workers are in short supply and applicants have recent work experience and no doubt there will be takers but it also risks being a kick in the teeth for people with aspiring careers looking to progress and finding their way blocked by returnees?

I have been approached by colleagues at 2 companies saying they are desperate for experienced people and I should apply and return to work. In both cases the expression 'you could do the job with your eyes shut' came up :)

One of these companies has a reputation for being pretty ruthless and there's no way they'd be seeking out older people unless they were missing some particular set of skills that their younger folks don't have.

No, I don’t want to go back to being a QS.