Eddie's Back

[Margin__Walker]

Apparently

[Uncle fester]

That is quite staggering.

[tc27]

Holy shit

[Margin__Walker]

Nah he is always good for a while until the players get sick of him

Oh yeah. They'll probably win the RWC. At the very least, they'll knock England out.

Then it will get very miserable.

So probably worth it all said.

[weegie01]

Five years is mental.

[Margin__Walker]

Gits having fun with it. Shit's about to weird in that Oz camp as Eddie starts to weed out the non hackers and independent thinkers.

[Guy Smiley]

Good.

I hope the whole shebang crashes and burns like a turd in a paper bag.

[tc27]

Aus got enough pro players for Jones to break half of the in camp?

[sockwithaticket]

Five years is mental.

After the initial what the fuck of the announcement, that was the second. Obviously we're not privy to the contract details, but it's mental to offer anyone more than a world cup cycle without some very detailed performance clauses, let alone a coach with a well documented tendency to burn out his welcome.

[Guy Smiley]

Five years is mental.

After the initial what the fuck of the announcement, that was the second. Obviously we're not privy to the contract details, but it's mental to offer anyone more than a world cup cycle without some very detailed performance clauses, let alone a coach with a well documented tendency to burn out his welcome.

[Paddington Bear]

If you’re not happy with your side this close to a WC he’s the man to call, I like it from that perspective. 5 years suggests a lack of institutional memory in Australian rugby.

Feel a bit for Rennie who I thought had created a team of tough bastards better than their parts in a hard autumn.

Overall though, very amusing

[Dan54]

Shouldn't be surprised with these pricks, old honest Hamish McLennan assuring all and sundry that Rennie was the man to lead Wallabies through to WC just before xmas? He certainly gives the words lying prick a whole new meaning doesn't he? Mind you he does it so often who can be surprised?

[Gumboot]

They'll probably win the RWC.

Yeah, but first they'll win the Rugby Championship and the Bledisloe.

He really is a prick.

[Guy Smiley]

I can see the Wallabies finally getting the better of the All Blacks under Eddie… he’s cunning and Foster is the opposite of that. The players all know each other and can match up well on the day. Coupled with that is the deep seated anger some in the Australian camp harbour towards NZ…. Losing to us burns a hot scorchy sphincter through those guys. Hamish MacLennan embodies it.

Aside from matching the NZ sides though, the Wallabies have been out of their depth internationally and it would be an optimist who sees Eddie being able to turn that around.

Injuries have nobbled the Wallabies cruelly over the last couple of years but coupled with that is a massive over estimation of their quality. I don’t think they’re anywhere near as good as they think they are.

[Niegs]

Eddie to bully… I mean inspire the sheilas as well with his wisdom poached from others?

[Kawazaki]

Anyone else think that maybe Jones was chatting to people in the ARU about this long before he got sacked?

[assfly]

This is quite a shock, from the outside. I thought Australia were coming along quite nicely under Rennie and were starting to look like dark horses for the world cup.

[Guy Smiley]

Anyone else think that maybe Jones was chatting to people in the ARU about this long before he got sacked?

Something like that. The news of his sacking broke from Sydney two days before it happened.

[Ymx]

Like others have said, it might be worthwhile for this WC cycle. But then contracting him until the next one is madness.

The Aussies are going to losing it come 25-26. Or earlier, should Aus not make the semis.

[Kawazaki]

Jones has lost his mojo. He's a dinosaur from a different age. I expect him to fail with Australia like he failed with England.

[sefton]

Jones has lost his mojo. He's a dinosaur from a different age. I expect him to fail with Australia like he failed with England.

His win ratio even in the face of the last year does not suggest he failed.

[Kawazaki]

Jones has lost his mojo. He's a dinosaur from a different age. I expect him to fail with Australia like he failed with England.

His win ratio even in the face of the last year does not suggest he failed.

42%?

There was no upside to Eddie. He was losing playing awful rugby with a poorly selected team.

[Lobby]

Jones has lost his mojo. He's a dinosaur from a different age. I expect him to fail with Australia like he failed with England.

His win ratio even in the face of the last year does not suggest he failed.

42%?

There was no upside to Eddie. He was losing playing awful rugby with a poorly selected team.

73% overall, making him the most successful English coach. He was very good at the beginning, but should have left after the 2019 RWC.

[Kawazaki]

His win ratio even in the face of the last year does not suggest he failed.

42%?

There was no upside to Eddie. He was losing playing awful rugby with a poorly selected team.

73% overall, making him the most successful English coach. He was very good at the beginning, but should have left after the 2019 RWC.

Exactly, it's pointless talking about an average that is fluffed from results years ago using a group of players that he hardly was responsible for developing.

After 7 years that was his squad, his development, his environment and his ridiculous coaching team and the result was garbage.

[Guy Smiley]

People will try and tell you that Ian Foster has a decent record as well… but we can all see he hasn’t really got a clue about what he’s up to.

Jones is in a similar sort of position… he might have short term impact but his ideas and style belong to a time gone by. It’s some sort of knee jerk move from RA who appear desperate to strike some sort of trademark of their own on Rugby… the Sydney club scene with its delusions of grandeur and yoke of insecurity.

[Sinkers]

People will try and tell you that Ian Foster has a decent record as well… but we can all see he hasn’t really got a clue about what he’s up to.

Jones is in a similar sort of position… he might have short term impact but his ideas and style belong to a time gone by. It’s some sort of knee jerk move from RA who appear desperate to strike some sort of trademark of their own on Rugby… the Sydney club scene with its delusions of grandeur and yoke of insecurity.

I don’t think I’ve met more than one or two from that scene that aren’t a complete twunt!!
Particularly the eastern suburbs somehow.

[Niegs]

Haha... good question!

[Guy Smiley]

Anyone else think that maybe Jones was chatting to people in the ARU about this long before he got sacked?

Something like that. The news of his sacking broke from Sydney two days before it happened.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... australia/

Eddie Jones held secret talks with Rugby Australia over the course of 14 months, Telegraph Sport can reveal.

Jones, who was appointed as Wallabies head coach on Sunday night, had at least three meetings with Rugby Australia leadership including one while on tour with England last summer.

Following his sacking as England head coach, Jones was handed a five-year contract to replace New Zealander Dave Rennie – setting up a potential head-to-head with England in the quarter-finals of the Rugby World Cup later this year.

Remarkably that journey first began over dinner at the Gaucho restaurant in Richmond, south west London in November 2021.

Jones is said to have met with Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan and their chief executive Andy Marinos there following England’s autumn campaign, which included a 32-15 victory over the Wallabies at Twickenham.

It is understood that Rugby Australia had instigated the meeting with a view of sounding out “where his head was” as part of their first steps to see if he would be interested in returning to his homeland to take up the position of Wallabies head coach after this year’s World Cup, when his England contract was due to expire.

“His articulation of club rugby [in Australia], player movements within rugby league and union, the competitive landscape and what needed to be done was very impressive,” recalls McLennan.

Jones is said to have been “100 per cent” committed to England through to the World Cup during the meeting, and again when Jones was entertained McLennan at his home – a stone’s throw from the Sydney Harbour Bridge – where he was also joined by Marinos for a confidential meeting after England’s tour of Australia last July.

[OomStruisbaai]

What a dumb move. Goodbye Wallabies