Uncle fester wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:42 am
Niegs wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:02 am
This is some critique of the current situation for Irish women (fella looks to be Railway Union coach?). Without knowing the full situation in those places, and people saying Canada needs to step up ... and I'd love to see women's rugby players enjoy a liveable wage with all the benefits ... I don't see where the money comes from. As he says in this thread, many of the older players would be taking a pay cut / setback in their careers, younger women potentially risking ten years of struggle.
That guy is such a dose. He actually mentions the key problem a couple of times but glossed over it.
The league is a shambles.
This is the league table:
https://www.irishrugby.ie/all-ireland-l ... ue-tables/
Look at the points diff for each team. The top 3 teams regularly hammer the other teams. What good is it for anybody, especially the international players when the majority of their games are barely opposed training sessions.
The guy in the tweet is the DOR for railway who are number 2 in the league. He is personally responsible for the state of the league because his team have no development structure. They simply poach players from other teams. So when they hockey a team, they note who was good from the opposition and poach them saying that the player won't play for province/country while playing for a small team.
He keeps moaning that others need to come up to the standard of his team while actively working to widen that gap.
Ooh, didn't know that!
The Canadian system had / has some similar issues. The women's Prem in BC used to be the marquee league to get noticed, so promising players would come out here leaving their home clubs weaker (though there wasn't a national title, even, so not like they were in competition). Two clubs tend to attract (naturally, not poaches) the best players so the league is top-heavy.
When I was coach, I inherited a team with six internationals, two former, two prospects. Teams complained we and the other front-runner were too strong, but the provincial union does ZERO to develop players/coaches so those lucky to have a good system internally, or be in the magnet city lead (a second women's club formed here the year after I left, half the internationals went there and used the uni's players in their offseason - they won the league their first year against my old club!)
Now, with no development at schools level, both clubs heavily rely on international hopefuls, off-season uni players, and the uni's reserves. Our national team continually relies on uni-aged players saying they're the ones getting the most development, but their season is only three months long. They don't do anything to help/encourage growth and also typically ignore any prospects who might be late developers or those who don't play for the 'right' team.