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fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:23 pm
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To speak about Europe and the UK you need this government out of power and time. Polls continue to shift towards brexit being a terrible mistake but conned people have to realise they've been conned and that takes time and you can't force it (also age of remain and leave voters favours remain).
Brexit isn't a binary choice though - there is a range of options within it and any new Gov could decide to backtrack on the 'hard' Brexit we got but never asked for and move to a closer and different trading relationship ie rejoin the Single Market and Customs Union. I don't think this would get as much flack from the public as some would expect, many would welcome it if it meant shorter queues at airports and ports and easier to spend the winter in your holiday villa in Spain. However there would be the usual crap from the usual Brexit 'mad as a bucket of frogs, brigade ie ERG, etc. It would certainly relieve the trading issues, sort the NI issue and ease our labour shortages pretty quickly. We could even claim it retained our UK 'sovrenty' whatever the feck that is or was! Given the economic disaster this current version of Brexit is creating for many I suspect it would be seen by many on all political sides as the only real way to stimulate economic growth for the next few years, ignoring the likes of JRM, Bone, et al.
and it would only take about twenty years to achieve ...... because the usual scumbags have done a marvelous job of poisoning the well in the relationship between the UK, & EU; & to this day, your Government still aren't complying with the terms of the agreement, & there are multiple legal actions still in play.

In many ways Starmers position on Rejoin is irrelevant, because Rejoin is a multi-Government journey, & whatever he or anyone else does, will just get sabotaged by the next Tory Government, so until Rejoin becomes Tory Party policy too, the EU know its not worth the candle.
Again I am not sure that the EU would be all that difficult about the UK forming a closer trading relationship with them because at the end of the day they are pragmatic and it would be beneficial to both them and us. The EU know very well exactly who has driven the current shitfest and also know very well who they would prefer to work with in the future. I suspect they would be far more welcoming to a new Labour Gov and would try to help them as much as possible to achieve a success as this might ensure they stay in power. In global geopolitical terms they would be more than happy to see the UK closer to the EU fold in both trade and political terms and I suspect would be willing to forgo some of the past 6+ years as a difficult UK aberration, a bit like the US under Trump. Given issues with Russia, China and even the US the EU know full well that an EU with UK more closely aligned to them would be of enormous benefit to them. The UK is now discovering that in this new wide world where trying blocs are large and protectionism is growing that sitting as Johnny-no-mates on a little island on the edge of Europe is a very lonely place with little influence over world affairs and little chance of having meaningful and beneficial trade relationships and therefore economic growth. Who would have guessed this would happen?

I agree any full membership of the EU would be difficult and lengthy to achieve, mostly because of internal UK politics, but a few years of calm adult like negotiating could see us in a more sensible trading relationship with the EU. If we don't get this then the UK economic decline will be horrendous!
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dpedin wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:03 am
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:23 pm
dpedin wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:07 pm

Brexit isn't a binary choice though - there is a range of options within it and any new Gov could decide to backtrack on the 'hard' Brexit we got but never asked for and move to a closer and different trading relationship ie rejoin the Single Market and Customs Union. I don't think this would get as much flack from the public as some would expect, many would welcome it if it meant shorter queues at airports and ports and easier to spend the winter in your holiday villa in Spain. However there would be the usual crap from the usual Brexit 'mad as a bucket of frogs, brigade ie ERG, etc. It would certainly relieve the trading issues, sort the NI issue and ease our labour shortages pretty quickly. We could even claim it retained our UK 'sovrenty' whatever the feck that is or was! Given the economic disaster this current version of Brexit is creating for many I suspect it would be seen by many on all political sides as the only real way to stimulate economic growth for the next few years, ignoring the likes of JRM, Bone, et al.
and it would only take about twenty years to achieve ...... because the usual scumbags have done a marvelous job of poisoning the well in the relationship between the UK, & EU; & to this day, your Government still aren't complying with the terms of the agreement, & there are multiple legal actions still in play.

In many ways Starmers position on Rejoin is irrelevant, because Rejoin is a multi-Government journey, & whatever he or anyone else does, will just get sabotaged by the next Tory Government, so until Rejoin becomes Tory Party policy too, the EU know its not worth the candle.
Again I am not sure that the EU would be all that difficult about the UK forming a closer trading relationship with them because at the end of the day they are pragmatic and it would be beneficial to both them and us. The EU know very well exactly who has driven the current shitfest and also know very well who they would prefer to work with in the future. I suspect they would be far more welcoming to a new Labour Gov and would try to help them as much as possible to achieve a success as this might ensure they stay in power. In global geopolitical terms they would be more than happy to see the UK closer to the EU fold in both trade and political terms and I suspect would be willing to forgo some of the past 6+ years as a difficult UK aberration, a bit like the US under Trump. Given issues with Russia, China and even the US the EU know full well that an EU with UK more closely aligned to them would be of enormous benefit to them. The UK is now discovering that in this new wide world where trying blocs are large and protectionism is growing that sitting as Johnny-no-mates on a little island on the edge of Europe is a very lonely place with little influence over world affairs and little chance of having meaningful and beneficial trade relationships and therefore economic growth. Who would have guessed this would happen?

I agree any full membership of the EU would be difficult and lengthy to achieve, mostly because of internal UK politics, but a few years of calm adult like negotiating could see us in a more sensible trading relationship with the EU. If we don't get this then the UK economic decline will be horrendous!


We wouldn't get a rebate and most likely we'd have to commit to making the Euro our currency, just like any other new member.

The loons have royally fucked any chance of the UK becoming a full member of the EU again.
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I think a Starmer government will move us closer to the EU and with a large majority and probably two terms into the EEA. I don't think he'll reopen the whole can of worms as if he does he won't have space to do anything else.
I also think 'I reduced queues at airports' really doesn't have the traction some suggest it does, and whilst anecdotes aren't data I haven't experienced a tiresome queue entering the EU myself, and had plenty whilst travelling within it. Not sure it will be a focus.
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A long thread about Zahawi's history of statements about his tax declarations, repeatedly over a long period made claims that were at best "disingenuous". Just makes you wonder what else might be uncovered about all of them in the top tier of the Tories.



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Nadhim Zahawi ‘will be gone by PMQs’, insiders say

The PM faces the prospect of a bruising session at the despatch box as he becomes embroiled in his first major firefighting exercise.

Inside sources say Nadhim Zahawi will be out of the job before Prime Minister’s Questions on Wednesday morning.

According to HuffPost UK reports, the Tory chairman is unlikely to survive the next 24 hours after it emerged he paid HMRC millions of pounds over an unpaid tax bill from when he was chancellor last year.

It comes amid a bruising week for prime minister Rishi Sunak, who has not only had to handle his own run-in with the police but also had to handle allegations that BBC chairman Richard Sharp reportedly helped his predecessor-but-one Boris Johnson secure a loan of up to £800,000.

The Zahawi tax saga seems to have taken precedence, with Caroline Noakes becoming the first Tory MP to break ranks and publicly call for him to go.

She told Talk TV: “The challenge for Nadhim is – look at the front pages, he’s leading too many of them. When you become the story it’s a distraction from anything else that the government is trying to do.

“There are countless examples of good, competent cabinet colleagues who’ve got themselves in a mess, who have resigned quickly and come back, really in some instances just a few months later.

“In order to get this cleared up Nadhim should stand aside and let the investigation run its course.”

But a growing number of people on the party payroll are joining in the calls.

One former minister told HuffPost UK: “Nadhim is genuinely a nice guy and good minister and has many friends in the parliamentary party
Nadhim Zahawi ‘will be gone by PMQs’, insiders say
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Yip he is gonna step aside in a dignified manner as she sees it.
He will state he has nothing to hide and that all this is a distraction.
So for the good of getting on with government he will do the right thing and cooperate fully.

Or he is fecked
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tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:08 am A long thread about Zahawi's history of statements about his tax declarations, repeatedly over a long period made claims that were at best "disingenuous". Just makes you wonder what else might be uncovered about all of them in the top tier of the Tories.
Fantastic forensics from Neidle. Saw him on TV last night, bit of a character as well!
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This sort of collusion with oligarchs out of self-interest has been an issue going back to the 1990s for sure, but this one is even worse in the circumstances...more evidence of a Government not fit for purpose
Revealed: UK government helped sanctioned Putin ally sue British journalist

The UK government helped the boss of Russia’s murderous mercenary army to circumvent its own sanctions and launch a targeted legal attack on a British journalist, openDemocracy can reveal.

Yevgeny Prigozhin is the founder of Wagner, a private army that the US government last week announced it would designate a “transnational criminal organisation”, allowing it to impose even tougher sanctions on the group. For years it has been accused of human rights abuses and war crimes in Ukraine and across the world in support of Putin’s regime.

Sanctions introduced in the UK and Europe in 2020 were supposed to prevent anyone from doing business with Prigozhin. He had also been sanctioned in the US in 2018.

But a vast cache of hacked emails shows that, under the leadership of Rishi Sunak, the UK Treasury issued special licences in 2021 to let the oligarch override sanctions and launch an aggressive legal campaign against a journalist in the London courts.

The notorious libel suit against Eliot Higgins personally followed revelations by his website Bellingcat about Wagner’s shadowy operations, and was part of Prigozhin’s strategy to undermine the sanctions against him.

The case collapsed in March 2022, in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But key details of how the sanctioned oligarch was able to pursue the legal attack have remained a secret until now.

An investigation by openDemocracy has found that:

The government granted licences for a British law firm to work on the case, and approved key steps along the way;
Sanctions prevented Prigozhin from coming to London, but the UK government gave permission for his British lawyers to fly business class to St Petersburg so they could meet face-to-face and finalise their legal attack on Higgins;

Prigozhin paid his London lawyers directly via wire transfer from Russia, causing the UK bank to initially withhold funds due to sanctions;
The London case was a key plank of his strategy to thwart the global sanctions.
The vast cache of hacked emails and documents from one of Russia’s biggest law firms was made available to openDemocracy and The Intercept, which first revealed other details from the hack.

It lays bare the incredible ease with which one of the world’s most notorious warmongers was able to use the UK legal system to try and further his aims, even while sanctioned.

More at https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/prigoz ... bel-slapp/
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tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:56 pm
The government granted licences for a British law firm to work on the case, and approved key steps along the way;
Love to know which civil servant signed those off.
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Meanwhile, spiteful Ladder Puller In Chief Braverman is looking into making it a legal duty for the Home Secretary to send asylum seekers offshore.

It doesn't matter how vicious you are, my dear, when Norsefire get elected your reward for all the vileness will be a hearty thanks and luxury transport in the back of a van, black hood as a complimentary service.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:10 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:56 pm
The government granted licences for a British law firm to work on the case, and approved key steps along the way;
Love to know which civil servant signed those off.
As well as why this government is facilitating intimidation of independent investigative journalism... ( not that it's hard to fathom )
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SaintK wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:48 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:08 am A long thread about Zahawi's history of statements about his tax declarations, repeatedly over a long period made claims that were at best "disingenuous". Just makes you wonder what else might be uncovered about all of them in the top tier of the Tories.
Fantastic forensics from Neidle. Saw him on TV last night, bit of a character as well!
Yeah great interview, Matt Lucas springs to mind.
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C69 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:12 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:48 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:08 am A long thread about Zahawi's history of statements about his tax declarations, repeatedly over a long period made claims that were at best "disingenuous". Just makes you wonder what else might be uncovered about all of them in the top tier of the Tories.
Fantastic forensics from Neidle. Saw him on TV last night, bit of a character as well!
Yeah great interview, Matt Lucas springs to mind.
:lol: :lol: with big glasses!
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RISHI SUNAK was visiting a Scottish primary school and he visited one of the classes. They were in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings. The teacher asked Mr Sunak if he would like to lead the discussion on the word 'tragedy'. So the illustrious leader asked the class for an example of a ...'TRAGEDY'. A little boy stood up and offered: “If ma best freen,... wha lives on a fairm, is playin' in the field an' a tractor runs ower him and kills him, that wid be a tragedy”. “No”, said Rishi - “that would be an accident”.
A little girl raised her hand: “If a school bus kerryin' fufty children drove ower a cliff, killing a'b'dy inside, that wid be a tragedy”. “I'm afraid not” explained Rishi - “that's what we would call a great loss”.
The room went silent. No other children volunteered. Rishi searched the room. “Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?” Finally at the back of the room, wee Johnny raised his hand... In a quiet voice he said: “If a plane kerryin' you and the Tory Cabinet wis struck by a 'freendly fire' missile & blawn tae smithereens, that wid be a tragedy”. “Fantastic!” exclaimed Rishi. “That's right. Can you tell me why that would be a tragedy”? “Weel” says wee Johnny “it his tae be a tragedy, because it certainly widnae be a great loss..... and it probably widnae be a fucking accident either”!
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Blackmac wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:09 pm RISHI SUNAK was visiting a Scottish primary school and he visited one of the classes. They were in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings. The teacher asked Mr Sunak if he would like to lead the discussion on the word 'tragedy'. So the illustrious leader asked the class for an example of a ...'TRAGEDY'. A little boy stood up and offered: “If ma best freen,... wha lives on a fairm, is playin' in the field an' a tractor runs ower him and kills him, that wid be a tragedy”. “No”, said Rishi - “that would be an accident”.
A little girl raised her hand: “If a school bus kerryin' fufty children drove ower a cliff, killing a'b'dy inside, that wid be a tragedy”. “I'm afraid not” explained Rishi - “that's what we would call a great loss”.
The room went silent. No other children volunteered. Rishi searched the room. “Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?” Finally at the back of the room, wee Johnny raised his hand... In a quiet voice he said: “If a plane kerryin' you and the Tory Cabinet wis struck by a 'freendly fire' missile & blawn tae smithereens, that wid be a tragedy”. “Fantastic!” exclaimed Rishi. “That's right. Can you tell me why that would be a tragedy”? “Weel” says wee Johnny “it his tae be a tragedy, because it certainly widnae be a great loss..... and it probably widnae be a fucking accident either”!
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tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:56 pm This sort of collusion with oligarchs out of self-interest has been an issue going back to the 1990s for sure, but this one is even worse in the circumstances...more evidence of a Government not fit for purpose
Revealed: UK government helped sanctioned Putin ally sue British journalist

The UK government helped the boss of Russia’s murderous mercenary army to circumvent its own sanctions and launch a targeted legal attack on a British journalist, openDemocracy can reveal.

Yevgeny Prigozhin is the founder of Wagner, a private army that the US government last week announced it would designate a “transnational criminal organisation”, allowing it to impose even tougher sanctions on the group. For years it has been accused of human rights abuses and war crimes in Ukraine and across the world in support of Putin’s regime.

Sanctions introduced in the UK and Europe in 2020 were supposed to prevent anyone from doing business with Prigozhin. He had also been sanctioned in the US in 2018.

But a vast cache of hacked emails shows that, under the leadership of Rishi Sunak, the UK Treasury issued special licences in 2021 to let the oligarch override sanctions and launch an aggressive legal campaign against a journalist in the London courts.

The notorious libel suit against Eliot Higgins personally followed revelations by his website Bellingcat about Wagner’s shadowy operations, and was part of Prigozhin’s strategy to undermine the sanctions against him.

The case collapsed in March 2022, in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But key details of how the sanctioned oligarch was able to pursue the legal attack have remained a secret until now.

An investigation by openDemocracy has found that:

The government granted licences for a British law firm to work on the case, and approved key steps along the way;
Sanctions prevented Prigozhin from coming to London, but the UK government gave permission for his British lawyers to fly business class to St Petersburg so they could meet face-to-face and finalise their legal attack on Higgins;

Prigozhin paid his London lawyers directly via wire transfer from Russia, causing the UK bank to initially withhold funds due to sanctions;
The London case was a key plank of his strategy to thwart the global sanctions.
The vast cache of hacked emails and documents from one of Russia’s biggest law firms was made available to openDemocracy and The Intercept, which first revealed other details from the hack.

It lays bare the incredible ease with which one of the world’s most notorious warmongers was able to use the UK legal system to try and further his aims, even while sanctioned.

More at https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/prigoz ... bel-slapp/
That's out and out treason :wtf:
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SaintK wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:33 pm
Blackmac wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:09 pm RISHI SUNAK was visiting a Scottish primary school and he visited one of the classes. They were in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings. The teacher asked Mr Sunak if he would like to lead the discussion on the word 'tragedy'. So the illustrious leader asked the class for an example of a ...'TRAGEDY'. A little boy stood up and offered: “If ma best freen,... wha lives on a fairm, is playin' in the field an' a tractor runs ower him and kills him, that wid be a tragedy”. “No”, said Rishi - “that would be an accident”.
A little girl raised her hand: “If a school bus kerryin' fufty children drove ower a cliff, killing a'b'dy inside, that wid be a tragedy”. “I'm afraid not” explained Rishi - “that's what we would call a great loss”.
The room went silent. No other children volunteered. Rishi searched the room. “Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?” Finally at the back of the room, wee Johnny raised his hand... In a quiet voice he said: “If a plane kerryin' you and the Tory Cabinet wis struck by a 'freendly fire' missile & blawn tae smithereens, that wid be a tragedy”. “Fantastic!” exclaimed Rishi. “That's right. Can you tell me why that would be a tragedy”? “Weel” says wee Johnny “it his tae be a tragedy, because it certainly widnae be a great loss..... and it probably widnae be a fucking accident either”!
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tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:56 pm This sort of collusion with oligarchs out of self-interest has been an issue going back to the 1990s for sure, but this one is even worse in the circumstances...more evidence of a Government not fit for purpose
Revealed: UK government helped sanctioned Putin ally sue British journalist

The UK government helped the boss of Russia’s murderous mercenary army to circumvent its own sanctions and launch a targeted legal attack on a British journalist, openDemocracy can reveal.

Yevgeny Prigozhin is the founder of Wagner, a private army that the US government last week announced it would designate a “transnational criminal organisation”, allowing it to impose even tougher sanctions on the group. For years it has been accused of human rights abuses and war crimes in Ukraine and across the world in support of Putin’s regime.

Sanctions introduced in the UK and Europe in 2020 were supposed to prevent anyone from doing business with Prigozhin. He had also been sanctioned in the US in 2018.

But a vast cache of hacked emails shows that, under the leadership of Rishi Sunak, the UK Treasury issued special licences in 2021 to let the oligarch override sanctions and launch an aggressive legal campaign against a journalist in the London courts.

The notorious libel suit against Eliot Higgins personally followed revelations by his website Bellingcat about Wagner’s shadowy operations, and was part of Prigozhin’s strategy to undermine the sanctions against him.

The case collapsed in March 2022, in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But key details of how the sanctioned oligarch was able to pursue the legal attack have remained a secret until now.

An investigation by openDemocracy has found that:

The government granted licences for a British law firm to work on the case, and approved key steps along the way;
Sanctions prevented Prigozhin from coming to London, but the UK government gave permission for his British lawyers to fly business class to St Petersburg so they could meet face-to-face and finalise their legal attack on Higgins;

Prigozhin paid his London lawyers directly via wire transfer from Russia, causing the UK bank to initially withhold funds due to sanctions;
The London case was a key plank of his strategy to thwart the global sanctions.
The vast cache of hacked emails and documents from one of Russia’s biggest law firms was made available to openDemocracy and The Intercept, which first revealed other details from the hack.

It lays bare the incredible ease with which one of the world’s most notorious warmongers was able to use the UK legal system to try and further his aims, even while sanctioned.

More at https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/prigoz ... bel-slapp/
Tory connections to Russian oligarchs are super dodgy. What makes it particularly bad is it's not just one guy with some dirty money trying to buy favours in a foreign country, it's instead been quite systemic with multiple different actors on a sustained ongoing basis. I posted about this before the full scale invasion of Ukraine too. The Tories themselves seem very naive about it all, they didn't (maybe still don't?) seem to care where the money is coming from. No one gets rich and stays rich in Russia without being part of the Putin system.

There is no reason to help someone like Prigozhin, unless someone somewhere had the power to call in a favour.
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Some more on the Tory's foreign friends. Rwanda is still up to its usual tricks. M23 (a DRC rebel group supported by Rwanda to such an extent that it's a Rwandan proxy) executed 100s of civilians last month including children, DRC government forces are responding but Rwanda now seems keen on shooting down the DRC's tiny air force (Goma is a city on the border, it's easy to stray into Rwandan airspace briefly when defending the city). M23 was dormant/destroyed (in no small part because South Africa intervened and killed a lot of them) but was revived last year. Strange how guys hiding out in a jungle can reform and continue their genocidal mission, suddenly being armed again and wiping out villages, almost like it's not just some guys hiding out in the jungle. There's reports, including from UN monitors, that M23 is behaving like a conventional force and Rwandan officers are on the ground inside the DRC commanding them.

Rwanda is a country the Tories want the UK public to think is a totally normal democratic type of place, so people can be deported there.

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Another private equity companies children's "care" home providing abuse.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63792458
The whole idea of making profits off this sort of thing stinks. The only thing these companies care about is profit, therefore, they need to be heavily fined. 16% profit £12million. On the Tory thread because this is very Tory Britain.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:01 pm
You missed his "if in doubt, mention Corbyn" option, which as it turns out was pretty much his first response.
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Ooof...

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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:04 pm Ooof...
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Ooof indeed
That was a humiliation for Sunak
And the look on Braverman's face when she got a mention.........priceless
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:56 pm
Came to post that. Truly disgusting.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:56 pm
Par for the course from Gullis. Cunt of a man
Hopefully when he loses his seat (which he is likely to) and tries to get back into teaching this will be raised at his interview
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SaintK wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:37 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:04 pm Ooof...
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Ooof indeed
That was a humiliation for Sunak
And the look on Braverman's face when she got a mention.........priceless
Sunak is like a little boy lost in a maze waiting for his mum to come find him. This will continue and continue for him and the thieving cunts in his party and as soon as they think this scandal is dying down then as sure as eggs are eggs another slimeball or dodgy deal will emerge. He really his out of his depth and can't move because he is held to hostage by the nutters and the twats on the right of his party and the non-dom dodgy dark funders of the party. He is already a dead man walking and if I was him I would resign and skip off with my rich wife and kids to California asap.
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Physios in the NHS going on strike tomorrow then the Junior Doctors soon.
Dear God, perhaps the first time you may see twin set and pearls on the picket line.


Seriously wtaf?
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The Beeb now running the Story about Prigozhin.
This is going to be dynamite.
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C69 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:34 pm The Beeb now running the Story about Prigozhin.
This is going to be dynamite.
... as apposed to the massive story that was appointing a senior KGB officers son to the HoL, & refusing to acknowledge the M15 analysis which said that appointing him was a fucking awful idea ?

Oh hang on; that wasn't a story at all, & it just happened, & no-one much gave a shit, & the MSM didn't bother their arses reporting it !

Tell me why this is different ??
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:49 pm
C69 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:34 pm The Beeb now running the Story about Prigozhin.
This is going to be dynamite.
... as apposed to the massive story that was appointing a senior KGB officers son to the HoL, & refusing to acknowledge the M15 analysis which said that appointing him was a fucking awful idea ?

Oh hang on; that wasn't a story at all, & it just happened, & no-one much gave a shit, & the MSM didn't bother their arses reporting it !

Tell me why this is different ??
Oh absolutely but at least the MSM are reporting it at least
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C69 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:16 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:49 pm
C69 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:34 pm The Beeb now running the Story about Prigozhin.
This is going to be dynamite.
... as apposed to the massive story that was appointing a senior KGB officers son to the HoL, & refusing to acknowledge the M15 analysis which said that appointing him was a fucking awful idea ?

Oh hang on; that wasn't a story at all, & it just happened, & no-one much gave a shit, & the MSM didn't bother their arses reporting it !

Tell me why this is different ??
Oh absolutely but at least the MSM are reporting it at least
dynamite is Tories dangling from lamp posts; this is a wet fart.

the uk electorate has shown themselves to be immune to the last dozen attacks on their democracy, & fundamental rights; forgive me if I don't hold my breath this time around.
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Zahawi, Raab, Johnson, Gullis? How many more in what should be a long and packed agenda...
Chief Political Correspondent Nick Eardley told #BBCBreakfast: The Cabinet is meeting at the PM's country house Chequers with Rishi Sunak dealing with issues about the conduct of several Ministers.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:43 pm

the uk electorate has shown themselves to be immune to the last dozen attacks on their democracy, & fundamental rights; forgive me if I don't hold my breath this time around.

Oh no, you can't insult the electorate, that makes it all the fault of these who vehemently oppose the government
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The Tories want mums to get back to work, what isn't in their plans to make it happen? Affordable childcare.

You won't meet anyone as economically illiterate as a Tory.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:04 am

The Tories want mums to get back to work, what isn't in their plans to make it happen? Affordable childcare.

You won't meet anyone as economically illiterate as a Tory.
They really are thick as shit.
Worse still in many ways are those who have retired early.
I am waiting the NHS pension review on the matter of flexible retirement.
The NHS is a fecking horrible place to work atm
Hoovering up staff from all over the world and dumping them in environments that they have no idea about whatsoever.
The language barrier has been made much worse by many clinical environments still mandating mask wear.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:43 pm
dynamite is Tories dangling from lamp posts;
I'd call that justice.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:42 am
"Careless" is a technical term HMRC use to mark the level of the offence, others might have been "Deliberate" (tut) or "Deliberate and Concealed" (big tut).
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