Not really, have endured already the messages from the Scottish family, just felt being there we were very close to winning that and the difference was failing to tackle VdMYmx wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:26 pmIs commitment to your New Year’s resolution being tested??Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:23 pm We’re talking about a game where had England tackled a bloke they failed to five times after an average kick they would have won. Easy to overthink
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Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
I’m quite confused about what you thought of Sinckler??ASMO wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:36 pm Horrible just horrible, Sinkler, Goerge Itoje, Curry, JVP, Farrell, should all be dropped, they were utter gash. Dombrandt was poor, only starting forwards worth their spot were Chessum, Ludlum and Genge. Smith was pretty ordinary by his standards, but he was working with not much. Marchant the same, Malins made the.most of what he was given and OHC didnt get enough ball to realky do anything . Youngs coming on was utter gash, the rest were ok.
There was nothing positive to take from that game nothing changes my view that England are at best 4th place, but likely 5th.
Did you mean Genge in one of those sentences??

That was an entertaining Afternoon.
Tested a local traditional restaurant (got a large entrecote and drank some nice Nuit St George)
Both games were nice. I'll miss tomorrows 1st half as we play at 3 (CET).
Got a real interesting beer in the afternoon.

Tested a local traditional restaurant (got a large entrecote and drank some nice Nuit St George)
Both games were nice. I'll miss tomorrows 1st half as we play at 3 (CET).
Got a real interesting beer in the afternoon.

Yep, edited, Sinkler was very poor, he adds nothing, no carries, and not particularly effective in the scrum, Genge was ok in the svrum but good in the loose.Ymx wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:40 pmI’m quite confused about what you thought of Sinckler??ASMO wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:36 pm Horrible just horrible, Sinkler, Goerge Itoje, Curry, JVP, Farrell, should all be dropped, they were utter gash. Dombrandt was poor, only starting forwards worth their spot were Chessum, Ludlum and Genge. Smith was pretty ordinary by his standards, but he was working with not much. Marchant the same, Malins made the.most of what he was given and OHC didnt get enough ball to realky do anything . Youngs coming on was utter gash, the rest were ok.
There was nothing positive to take from that game nothing changes my view that England are at best 4th place, but likely 5th.
Did you mean Genge in one of those sentences??
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laurent wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:50 pm That was an entertaining Afternoon.
Tested a local traditional restaurant (got a large entrecote and drank some nice Nuit St George)
Both games were nice. I'll miss tomorrows 1st half as we play at 3 (CET).
Got a real interesting beer in the afternoon.
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I spent a few summers climbing based in Chamonix, is the brewery anywhere near there?
Motte-Servolex it is a "new" brewer quite inventive too, not that close from the station (Chambery).Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:04 pmlaurent wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:50 pm That was an entertaining Afternoon.
Tested a local traditional restaurant (got a large entrecote and drank some nice Nuit St George)
Both games were nice. I'll miss tomorrows 1st half as we play at 3 (CET).
Got a real interesting beer in the afternoon.
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I spent a few summers climbing based in Chamonix, is the brewery anywhere near there?
Sinckler made ten carries and some of his passes at the line led to huge inroads as well. If that's "very poor" then what the fuck do we call the people who actually, you know, made mistakes or gave away penalties or actually didn't show up much? Why is it always "good" or "worthless" with you?ASMO wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:03 pmYep, edited, Sinkler was very poor, he adds nothing, no carries, and not particularly effective in the scrum, Genge was ok in the svrum but good in the loose.Ymx wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:40 pmI’m quite confused about what you thought of Sinckler??ASMO wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:36 pm Horrible just horrible, Sinkler, Goerge Itoje, Curry, JVP, Farrell, should all be dropped, they were utter gash. Dombrandt was poor, only starting forwards worth their spot were Chessum, Ludlum and Genge. Smith was pretty ordinary by his standards, but he was working with not much. Marchant the same, Malins made the.most of what he was given and OHC didnt get enough ball to realky do anything . Youngs coming on was utter gash, the rest were ok.
There was nothing positive to take from that game nothing changes my view that England are at best 4th place, but likely 5th.
Did you mean Genge in one of those sentences??
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Pretty much continually for the last 4 at least, save for the odd occasion. Are you actually trying to suggest the English media and rugby supporters don't generally disparage Scotland's rugby efforts. That's an odd stance to takeJM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:36 pmWhich decades are we talking about?Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:09 pmC'mon now. The English have been doing it pretty continually for decades.JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:02 pm I'd also say that this was a match that England were on top in for quite some time. It was a good close game - had England grabbed a fourth try and not Scotland, I don't think many Scots would be impressed if we started claiming your players aren't up to it.![]()
Given you've been perennially talked up by our media as dark horses since about 2010, and that our media constantly referred to 1990 and 2000 when we were on a long winning streak against you, and that over the last 15 years or so you've beaten us several times and drawn a few more, with only a couple of our wins being thumpings... Well yeah, I am saying that. Our media has disparaged us a lot more than you.Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:28 pmPretty much continually for the last 4 at least, save for the odd occasion. Are you actually trying to suggest the English media and rugby supporters don't generally disparage Scotland's rugby efforts. That's an odd stance to take
Dunno what our supporters say. I expect like for every country's supporters without fail, they hold an entire range of opinions.
Referred to them as being a long time ago, perhaps!JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:38 pmGiven you've been perennially talked up by our media as dark horses since about 2010, and that our media constantly referred to 1990 and 2000 when we were on a long winning streak against youBlackmac wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:28 pmPretty much continually for the last 4 at least, save for the odd occasion. Are you actually trying to suggest the English media and rugby supporters don't generally disparage Scotland's rugby efforts. That's an odd stance to take
Talked up as dark horses since about 2010? Pull the other one!
You forget, lots of us live in England and we can see for ourselves how one eyed almost all the English media are. And the fans have mostly been, let's say, unhumble other than very, very recently.
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Didn't see the game but just saw the snip of Van der Merwe's try, what a beauty 

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Have you ever tried the MCB microbrewery in Chamonix?laurent wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:16 pmMotte-Servolex it is a "new" brewer quite inventive too, not that close from the station (Chambery).Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:04 pmlaurent wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:50 pm That was an entertaining Afternoon.
Tested a local traditional restaurant (got a large entrecote and drank some nice Nuit St George)
Both games were nice. I'll miss tomorrows 1st half as we play at 3 (CET).
Got a real interesting beer in the afternoon.
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I spent a few summers climbing based in Chamonix, is the brewery anywhere near there?
It was amazing. I don’t quite know how he had the energy or strength to fend off that last tackle, but it was magic.tabascoboy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:52 pm Didn't see the game but just saw the snip of Van der Merwe's try, what a beauty![]()
nope (not been in the alps for a long while)
Richard Cockerill saved Duhan van der Merwe's career. He was out of contract, no club and had a very badly injured hip. No one was interested in him. He failed his medical at Edinburgh, but Cockerill had seen enough from his time in France to make him go to the SRU and press the case for getting van der Merwe into an operating theatre and rehab after.
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
Yep. Edinburgh and Scotland have been the making of DvdM, which is why I feel OK about having him in the team, despite the thick Afrikaner accent.Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:26 pm Richard Cockerill saved Duhan van der Merwe's career. He was out of contract, no club and had a very badly injured hip. No one was interested in him. He failed his medical at Edinburgh, but Cockerill had seen enough from his time in France to make him go to the SRU and press the case for getting van der Merwe into an operating theatre and rehab after.
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:43 pm
Yep. Edinburgh and Scotland have been the making of DvdM, which is why I feel OK about having him in the team, despite the thick Afrikaner accent.
As someone on the Glasgow forum said after his POTM interview, he is sounding a bit more Morningside these days :-)
What exactly do you mean by this?
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A good illustration of just how tough head coaching is as a job.Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:26 pm Richard Cockerill saved Duhan van der Merwe's career. He was out of contract, no club and had a very badly injured hip. No one was interested in him. He failed his medical at Edinburgh, but Cockerill had seen enough from his time in France to make him go to the SRU and press the case for getting van der Merwe into an operating theatre and rehab after.
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
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Signal failure at Willesden, a fine advert for watching on the sofa and not caring about the result
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
If England don't improve PDQ, this could be a very long 6N for us.
Italy will certainly fancy their chances next week and the Welsh will be fired up for the cripple fight against us 2 weeks later - then we face France and Ireland - they'll tear us apart if we defencd like we did today.
Yikes !!
Italy will certainly fancy their chances next week and the Welsh will be fired up for the cripple fight against us 2 weeks later - then we face France and Ireland - they'll tear us apart if we defencd like we did today.
Yikes !!
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:13 pmI think a team willing to grind them down will win all day every day. They are the Japanese of the 6 nations and we won't lose to those fucking cunts EVER AGAIN.
So you mean the Scottish pack is shite, is that it?
That's very interesting, thanks. Apparently his attitude hasn't been all that impressive since he rejoined Edinburgh but when he can do stuff like he did today...Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:26 pm Richard Cockerill saved Duhan van der Merwe's career. He was out of contract, no club and had a very badly injured hip. No one was interested in him. He failed his medical at Edinburgh, but Cockerill had seen enough from his time in France to make him go to the SRU and press the case for getting van der Merwe into an operating theatre and rehab after.
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
You ok there chief?EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:13 pmI think a team willing to grind them down will win all day every day. They are the Japanese of the 6 nations and we won't lose to those fucking cunts EVER AGAIN.
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:09 pmA good illustration of just how tough head coaching is as a job.Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:26 pm Richard Cockerill saved Duhan van der Merwe's career. He was out of contract, no club and had a very badly injured hip. No one was interested in him. He failed his medical at Edinburgh, but Cockerill had seen enough from his time in France to make him go to the SRU and press the case for getting van der Merwe into an operating theatre and rehab after.
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
Yeah, coaches and players get it the same.
Look at the vitriol on here for Eddie Jones.
Keyboard warriors should try to coach at their local minis at least
Nightmare!Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:14 pm Signal failure at Willesden, a fine advert for watching on the sofa and not caring about the result
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
LenCohen wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:19 pmThat's very interesting, thanks. Apparently his attitude hasn't been all that impressive since he rejoined Edinburgh but when he can do stuff like he did today...Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:26 pm Richard Cockerill saved Duhan van der Merwe's career. He was out of contract, no club and had a very badly injured hip. No one was interested in him. He failed his medical at Edinburgh, but Cockerill had seen enough from his time in France to make him go to the SRU and press the case for getting van der Merwe into an operating theatre and rehab after.
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
I have no personal insight, all I know is the facts from out here - he left Edinburgh, the club he joined went under, he was made redundant but quickly rejoined Edinburgh with a bank-busting contract. He went to South Africa to get married whilst injured and now he is back playing.
Do you really think you are funny in any way?EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:22 pmYour ma is shiteTichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:18 pmEnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:13 pm
I think a team willing to grind them down will win all day every day. They are the Japanese of the 6 nations and we won't lose to those fucking cunts EVER AGAIN.
So you mean the Scottish pack is shite, is that it?
You try way too hard
Aye but for instance he posted a video of him having a race against his brother on the beach in SA. Full on sprinting. As I say, he can do things no one else in the world can so he can get as much leeway as he needsTichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:25 pmLenCohen wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:19 pmThat's very interesting, thanks. Apparently his attitude hasn't been all that impressive since he rejoined Edinburgh but when he can do stuff like he did today...Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:26 pm Richard Cockerill saved Duhan van der Merwe's career. He was out of contract, no club and had a very badly injured hip. No one was interested in him. He failed his medical at Edinburgh, but Cockerill had seen enough from his time in France to make him go to the SRU and press the case for getting van der Merwe into an operating theatre and rehab after.
It was a big personal move from Cockerill, he put a lot of his own reputation on the line for Duhan and it has paid off handsomely.
Cockers ultimately fucked up at Edinburgh, but not everything he did was bad.
England are getting rid of Richard Cockerill, maybe the failings are not all down to him and the previous regime, maybe they are, I don't know, but all I do know is that without Cockers' intervention, we would not have seen van der Merwe on the park for Scotland today
I have no personal insight, all I know is the facts from out here - he left Edinburgh, the club he joined went under, he was made redundant but quickly rejoined Edinburgh with a bank-busting contract. He went to South Africa to get married whilst injured and now he is back playing.
I'm all for that.LenCohen wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:32 pm
Aye but for instance he posted a video of him having a race against his brother on the beach in SA. Full on sprinting. As I say, he can do things no one else in the world can so he can get as much leeway as he needs
There are very many worse places for a couple in their twenties to live than Edinburgh, especially with a very good income.
We’ve been saying that for years. TBH, with what we know about Russell, it’s entirely possible.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
Aye pal, whatever you sayEnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:13 pmI think a team willing to grind them down will win all day every day. They are the Japanese of the 6 nations and we won't lose to those fucking cunts EVER AGAIN.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:16 amYour ma isn't very try hard. Its just a thingTichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:28 pmDo you really think you are funny in any way?
You try way too hard
really, is this funny where you're from?
Yeah, we were shite today when we beat a country with ten times the number of pro players and population. Stinking we were while getting that bonus point. And for the last six games against England when we've only lost once. We're terrible.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:25 am Scotland are fucking shite in every way from start to finish. There I said it
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
FFS, ER go you your bed.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:16 amYour ma isn't very try hard. Its just a thingTichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:28 pmDo you really think you are funny in any way?
You try way too hard
The French and Irish BR's must be creaming themselves at the prospect of facing Smith, all lateral movement and hitch kicks. I suspect he'll get a doing both matches.Slick wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:58 pmIt’s more getting rid of Smith in my opinion. Unless he gets it given to him on a plate I just don’t think he has been good enough at this levelMahoney wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:52 pmHe played 10. I reckon Smith was outside him at at least 75% of phases where both were available. Lord knows why they wore the wrong numbers.
It makes no sense to me. Smith at 1st receiver, Farrell inside centre, maybe. Farrell or Smith at 1st receiver with a proper centre outside them, sure. Smith at inside centre though… no.