House Owner Builder

[OomStruisbaai]

I always thought Builders go straight to hell. Now I understand why


I am a pensioner and decided to go smaller. After a lot of researching the local market I decided that buying a plot and build us cheaper then the market.
Bigger was my surprise going the owner builder route. Time isn't a problem at all.

Example Builders quote around R12,000 per square metre for material and labour. If the buy the material they milk you with front up advantages.


Owner builder you pay them after work has been done. Wet building (Fondation and wall structure) then roof and windows then finishing (plaster and tiling) , you pay the plummer and electrian.

Buying materials, getting quotes, organize delivery. Hold you money in your own hand.

You can save half of the R12,000 and pay R6,000 x 200 = R1,2 million.

Never to old to learn.

[average joe]

How much for the empty stand?

[OomStruisbaai]

How much for the empty stand?

The cheapest stand in Struisbaai is from R600,000.

[assfly]

Why wouldn't you hire an architect or project manager do it on your behalf?

[Sandstorm]

Why wouldn't you hire an architect or project manager do it on your behalf?

He's retired. Plenty of spare time to shout at labourers.

[assfly]

He's retired. Plenty of spare time to shout at labourers.

Sure, but who is going to minute the shouting, and do follow up shouting?

[OomStruisbaai]

He's retired. Plenty of spare time to shout at labourers.

Sure, but who is going to minute the shouting, and do follow up shouting?

nah no shouting. What is the architect, project managers % fees nowadays?

[Sandstorm]

He's retired. Plenty of spare time to shout at labourers.

Sure, but who is going to minute the shouting, and do follow up shouting?

nah no shouting. What is the architect, project managers % fees nowadays?

Still cheaper than paying Roos to ride the pine every week.

[average joe]

How much for the empty stand?

The cheapest stand in Struisbaai is from R600,000.

So, you're looking at 2bar? Easier to just look for an already built place in that region, no?

[assfly]

What is the architect, project managers % fees nowadays?

I have no idea what the rates are like in SA. But out here it's about 3-5% for a decent firm that can do both.

[OomStruisbaai]

What is the architect, project managers % fees nowadays?

I have no idea what the rates are like in SA. But out here it's about 3-5% for a decent firm that can do both.

Think SA is higher then that.

[assfly]

Think SA is higher then that.

Possibly. A good one could save you a lot of money.

[OomStruisbaai]

Think SA is higher then that.

Possibly. A good one could save you a lot of money.

That's exactly what I try to tell. 90% holiday houses in Struisbaai. Oom may start this here. I did project management for years.

[OomStruisbaai]

Job not finished in December. Ending up far over my budget and on the edge of bankruptcy. Great trek from tomorrow. At least have a nice deck and a one room flat to rent out.

[Sandstorm]

Sorry to hear that, Oom.

[assfly]

Job not finished in December. Ending up far over my budget and on the edge of bankruptcy.

Did you hire a project manager?

[OomStruisbaai]

Job not finished in December. Ending up far over my budget and on the edge of bankruptcy.

Did you hire a project manager?

It's myself.

[JM2K6]

I look forward to seeing you on Grand Designs.

[TB63]

Job not finished in December. Ending up far over my budget and on the edge of bankruptcy.

Did you hire a project manager?

It's myself.

Sorry to say this. But if you're not a builder or involved in the building trade, you've only yourself to blame...Not going to rub anymore salt into the wound..

[Paddington Bear]

I look forward to seeing you on Grand Designs.

Hate that you posted that - I am now on my fourth episode today. Ex-Scots Guards Officer blowing £4m on a house in a graveyard, absolute top tier TV

[JM2K6]

I look forward to seeing you on Grand Designs.

Hate that you posted that - I am now on my fourth episode today. Ex-Scots Guards Officer blowing £4m on a house in a graveyard, absolute top tier TV

This Twitter bot likely disappearing thanks to the API changes is essentially a war crime by Musk

[OomStruisbaai]

Did you hire a project manager?

It's myself.

Sorry to say this. But if you're not a builder or involved in the building trade, you've only yourself to blame...Not going to rub anymore salt into the wound..

Ja I learned a lot of lessons the hard way. Myself like to budget but getting the right info from your contractors was my biggest mistake.
Firstly SS is very expensive for the foundation.

My plot was a bit skew. So I could fit in another room for my self catering flat at the bottom iso of a lot of filling.

I want it finish before builders closing in December, so had to rush costs to get it finished.

See it as an experience. Altho I went over the budget , if I put it in the market I can still make a good profit.

[TB63]

[Sandstorm]

Just needs a good skim coat.

[assfly]

No safety equipment

[Sards]

I cant believe how you need architect plans for everything.
I just want to extend a 1.8m wall to 3.0m . Fit a few windows and French doors, ceiling and roof.....the plans show 1.8m.

Now if I just go ahead and decide to sell , I would probably need to knock it down.

[Lobby]

Looks like the brickwork on the extension next door to me.

[inactionman]

I like it. Obviously heavily influenced by Gaudi. Or booze.

[GogLais]

I like it. Obviously heavily influenced by Gaudi. Or booze.

Pretty poor by any stretcher the imagination.

[TB63]

Bloody puns...

Bet there's mortar come...

[Chilli]

Looks lime Yanks braai.