Thor Sedan wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:37 pm
I don't think trans women are women or trans men are men. I think that the 'trans women are women' etc is a lazy statement. I believe trans people deserve rights to prosper in communities - but to ignore their 'special circumstances' is foolish.
It is the noisy 10% that are destroying any real chance at discourse regarding these issues - and that is on both sides.
I believe it is imperative that we discuss trans rights and how they fit into our society - but it is impossible to discuss them without backlash. Impossible. Anyone not affording the trans community instant equal rights according to the trans communities expectations is immediately a TERF or transphobe. Many outspoken 'womens rights' campaigners seem to link heavily with far right organisations or religious movements.
There needs to be much more education on the differences of sex and gender and a ton more funding for mental health organisations.
I am completely opposed to trans participation in women's strength, power, contact and endurance sports.
You ever read/listened to any of Cathy Stock’s stuff on the definition of Woman? She’s the professor that was hounded out at Sussex University by the trans lobby.
She actually has an interesting solution to the whole “what is a woman?” Question.
She states that there are biological women, and that is the factual position. However, she then suggests that trans people could occupy a position of a woman as a matter of legal fiction.
She gives the example of companies being seen as a body corporate ie they’re a fictional person for the purposes of some law. For example in health and safety law, a company is treated in the law courts as an individual and so can be prosecuted as if they were a fictional individual, even though they’re factually not.
Another, more emotive example is that of adoptive parents. Once the adoption is confirmed, the people adopting occupy a position of ‘parent’ even though, in fact, they aren’t. It’s just that the law can create this legal fiction.
It is a clever solution, as it gives some recognition of the legal position, without changing biological fact, and everyone accepts that legal fictions have limitations, eg a company is a body corporate, but it can’t apply for a passport.
