The best new and returning TV series thread

[Uncle fester]

Extraordinary
Pretty funny. The soundtrack dentist is a hoot.

[-RB-]

The Last of Us is a basically a fancy looking Walking Dead. It looks swit swoo but it's emperors new clothes as it stands. The main issue also for me, and I haven't played the game so it may be faithful, is the young one is a pain in the hole.

It's miles better than TWD - no "CORAL" moments

Coooorrrrrllll get in the cooooorrrrrr

[-RB-]

Anyone watched Pistol?

I'm yet to find another person that's watched it. Thought it was ace if a little too Steve Jonesy.

The Sex store, Vivienne Westwood and Jordan stuff was brilliant and McClaren and Lidon were very well acted.

[Niegs]

As someone in the comments said, I don't pay attention to Trek or Wars any more, but live for quality parodies like this...

[Jock42]

Watched the first 2 episodes of "The Gold" about the 1983 inadvertent gold robbery. Had no idea of it but really enjoying it.

Apparently it's no good because it has car models in it that weren't made until 2 years later

It's no good because it is making out that the Brinks Mat robbers and their associates were a bunch of loveable cockney barrow boys when in fact they were a bunch of violent, thieving murderous cunts.

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

[Blackmac]

Apparently it's no good because it has car models in it that weren't made until 2 years later

It's no good because it is making out that the Brinks Mat robbers and their associates were a bunch of loveable cockney barrow boys when in fact they were a bunch of violent, thieving murderous cunts.

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

I had watched it all at that stage and it really doesn't. It makes out that Knoye was just a happy go lucky, cheeky chap who fell into the situation when in fact he was a hardened criminal with a reputation for being a high value fence. Similarly is makes MacAvoy out to be some sort of noble bandit, when in reality he was a violent thug with a horrendous reputation for extreme violence during his armed robberies. It fails to portray the violent and terrifying nature of the robbery. Rather than an afterthought, pouring petrol over their victims was their first action and an MO they had used before. The worst bit was they completely glossed over the brutality of the murder of John Fordham, and failed to acknowledge the ridiculous nature of the verdict from a jury that was obviously got at.
It did nothing at all to change the false narrative that a lot of people have about the situation. Nearly everyone involved in one way or the other has died a violent death and there are at least two other deaths associated with Knoye.
The only thing I felt was well done was the depiction of the police investigation which I felt was sympathetic to the quality of the officers involved and the hurdles they had to overcome. It's rare for any drama nowadays to portray the police as anything other than corrupt and incompetent, which these lads certainly weren't.

[Jock42]

It's no good because it is making out that the Brinks Mat robbers and their associates were a bunch of loveable cockney barrow boys when in fact they were a bunch of violent, thieving murderous cunts.

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

I had watched it all at that stage and it really doesn't. It makes out that Knoye was just a happy go lucky, cheeky chap who fell into the situation when in fact he was a hardened criminal with a reputation for being a high value fence. Similarly is makes MacAvoy out to be some sort of noble bandit, when in reality he was a violent thug with a horrendous reputation for extreme violence during his armed robberies. It fails to portray the violent and terrifying nature of the robbery. Rather than an afterthought, pouring petrol over their victims was their first action and an MO they had used before. The worst bit was they completely glossed over the brutality of the murder of John Fordham, and failed to acknowledge the ridiculous nature of the verdict from a jury that was obviously got at.
It did nothing at all to change the false narrative that a lot of people have about the situation. Nearly everyone involved in one way or the other has died a violent death and there are at least two other deaths associated with Knoye.
The only thing I felt was well done was the depiction of the police investigation which I felt was sympathetic to the quality of the officers involved and the hurdles they had to overcome. It's rare for any drama nowadays to portray the police as anything other than corrupt and incompetent, which these lads certainly weren't.

What was the script with the "missing" £13m? A quick Google didn't reveal anything. Was that just done for the drama?

[Ymx]

The Last of Us is a basically a fancy looking Walking Dead. It looks swit swoo but it's emperors new clothes as it stands. The main issue also for me, and I haven't played the game so it may be faithful, is the young one is a pain in the hole.

It's miles better than TWD - no "CORAL" moments

Ah yeah it's not bad. At a totally different speed Shrinking is quiet good for a watch with the missus. Harrison Ford and Jason Segel are the big names but all the cast bring a lightness to what is a programme about grief, anxiety and the madness of it all. It has a big huge tunnel of humour running through it. Look its not perfect and some of the jokes are a bit meh but definitely a B+ for me. Ford is great though really. He has such massive presence and when you think about it has been criminally underused over the years

I’m watching it, but it’s more of a C, with the OTT woke.

[Blackmac]

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

I had watched it all at that stage and it really doesn't. It makes out that Knoye was just a happy go lucky, cheeky chap who fell into the situation when in fact he was a hardened criminal with a reputation for being a high value fence. Similarly is makes MacAvoy out to be some sort of noble bandit, when in reality he was a violent thug with a horrendous reputation for extreme violence during his armed robberies. It fails to portray the violent and terrifying nature of the robbery. Rather than an afterthought, pouring petrol over their victims was their first action and an MO they had used before. The worst bit was they completely glossed over the brutality of the murder of John Fordham, and failed to acknowledge the ridiculous nature of the verdict from a jury that was obviously got at.
It did nothing at all to change the false narrative that a lot of people have about the situation. Nearly everyone involved in one way or the other has died a violent death and there are at least two other deaths associated with Knoye.
The only thing I felt was well done was the depiction of the police investigation which I felt was sympathetic to the quality of the officers involved and the hurdles they had to overcome. It's rare for any drama nowadays to portray the police as anything other than corrupt and incompetent, which these lads certainly weren't.

What was the script with the "missing" £13m? A quick Google didn't reveal anything. Was that just done for the drama?

Possibly poetic licence. I had never really heard of it before. I would imagine John Palmer might have been able shed more light on that because he certainly had a hell of a lot of money kicking about when he set up his Timeshare scam.

[yermum]

Enjoyed Counterpart.

Its a wierd cold war spy/scifi crossover.

it is two series and ends with a decent conclusion worth a watch if you like something inbetween slow horses and dark.

[Ymx]

Here YMX watched the most recent drop of Shrinking and its going nowhere. Its affable enough and the actors are very watchable, especially Ford, but it's now just coasting up and down a dead end. Pity as the premise was good

It dropped off very quickly after the first episode. My apple plus subscription has just finished. So I won’t be missing it.

[Tichtheid]

We are on Episode 5 of Hit and Run on Netflix - an Israeli tour guide looks for answers when his wife is killed in the incident of the title - it preposterous but draws you in.

[yermum]

We are on Episode 5 of Hit and Run on Netflix - an Israeli tour guide looks for answers when his wife is killed in the incident of the title - it preposterous but draws you in.

Having watched fauda recently having Doron speaking in English as a tour guide spun me out a bit.

[Blackmac]

Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.

[Raggs]

Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.

Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?

[Blackmac]

Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.

Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?

Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.

[Raggs]

Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.

Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?

Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.

Did they mention that badger to bovine TB is reckoned to be less than 10% of the cause of the spread? And even the results that show a greater drop in some culls (not all), is probably more down to the fact that the cows are being tested properly, and isolated properly, due to the experiment, rather than the actual dead badgers?

EDIT - Sorry, personal bugbear.

[Blackmac]

Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?

Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.

Did they mention that badger to bovine TB is reckoned to be less than 10% of the cause of the spread? And even the results that show a greater drop in some culls (not all), is probably more down to the fact that the cows are being tested properly, and isolated properly, due to the experiment, rather than the actual dead badgers?

EDIT - Sorry, personal bugbear.

I would say they highlighted Badgers as a contributing factor, certainly didn't blame them entirely.

[sockwithaticket]

Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.

Did they mention that badger to bovine TB is reckoned to be less than 10% of the cause of the spread? And even the results that show a greater drop in some culls (not all), is probably more down to the fact that the cows are being tested properly, and isolated properly, due to the experiment, rather than the actual dead badgers?

EDIT - Sorry, personal bugbear.

I would say they highlighted Badgers as a contributing factor, certainly didn't blame them entirely.

Were they actually that circumspect? Doesn't sound very Clarkson and frankly even bringing it up given how small a contribution badgers supposedly make is pretty irresponsible.

[Sandstorm]

Were they actually that circumspect? Doesn't sound very Clarkson and frankly even bringing it up given how small a contribution badgers supposedly make is pretty irresponsible.

I thought he was surprisingly chilled about it (apart from making a few jokes early on about shooting a few or running them down in his Range Rover...)

The Environment Agency dropped off a dead badger collection kit, he found a dead badger on his land, bagged it up and sent it off. It came back positive for TB....

[Blackmac]

Were they actually that circumspect? Doesn't sound very Clarkson and frankly even bringing it up given how small a contribution badgers supposedly make is pretty irresponsible.

I thought he was surprisingly chilled about it (apart from making a few jokes early on about shooting a few or running them down in his Range Rover...)

The Environment Agency dropped off a dead badger collection kit, he found a dead badger on his land, bagged it up and sent it off. It came back positive for TB....

Exactly. But let's assume it was otherwise.

[sockwithaticket]

No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.

[Ymx]

No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.

What are the other likely candidates?

I assume there’s a lot of correlation is why there is finger pointing.

[Sandstorm]

No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.

What are the other likely candidates?

I assume there’s a lot of correlation is why there is finger pointing.

Condors

[Raggs]

No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.

What are the other likely candidates?

I assume there’s a lot of correlation is why there is finger pointing.

Cows. Cows give it to cows, far more than badgers give it to cows. Individual cows/herds get bought and sold and pass the disease along.

There's a working vaccine now too, it requires an updated test (which has been invented), but seemingly it's easier to keep doing things that don't work properly.

[sockwithaticket]

I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.

[Uncle fester]

I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.

Watched it recently enough. Some bits a bit silly but the performances are excellent.
Enjoy.

I believe it was a Hardy family effort. His dad was involved too I think?

[Grandpa]

I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.

Loved it. I only recently realised that Tom Hardy was in Band of Brothers.. looking very youthful.

[Joost]

I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.

Watched it recently enough. Some bits a bit silly but the performances are excellent.
Enjoy.

I believe it was a Hardy family effort. His dad was involved too I think?

Supposedly there is going to be another series at some point, though recall Hardy saying he didn’t really know where they wanted to go with it, so guessing it won’t be imminent.

Jonathan Pryce probably doubled his lifetime count of using the F word in this series!

[Sandstorm]

The Consultant on Prime.




Jesus Christ!! It's weird and magnificent!

[Ymx]

The Consultant on Prime.




Jesus Christ!! It's weird and magnificent!

It’s a crazy and marvellous one alright.

[C69]

Picard season 3 is a return of the old guard and a return to a decent program

[Insane_Homer]

The Consultant on Prime.




Jesus Christ!! It's weird and magnificent!

Meh, started well enough, built intrigue and then culminated in a very disappointing and flat and weak ending.

[Insane_Homer]

E8 of Last of Us was a bit, um, darker than usual.

[tabascoboy]

E8 of Last of Us was a bit, um, darker than usual.

Whilst it is in the game, I wasn't expecting to see

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Ellie going full postal on David, thought they'd tone it down a bit for the show

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For those who don't know, Troy Baker who voiced Joel in the game has a supporting character role in this episode

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who in a great ironic twist gets killed by Ellie

[Ymx]

I’m really liking the last of us. And I’m not really annoyed by the girl as many are. Or have you lot softened your hate?

[Grandpa]

I’m really liking the last of us. And I’m not really annoyed by the girl as many are. Or have you lot softened your hate?

She's still annoying... I keep hoping she dies... "Hostel" style. And I am still underwhelmed by the whole series apart from episode 3... the rest have been ho hum... I'm still waiting for it to get going... the dialogue is basic and the plot almost non-existent... the production is decent which is about it's only saving grace. I found Station 11 had more going for it.

[Gumboot]

I’m really liking the last of us. And I’m not really annoyed by the girl as many are. Or have you lot softened your hate?

She's still annoying... I keep hoping she dies... "Hostel" style. And I am still underwhelmed by the whole series apart from episode 3... the rest have been ho hum... I'm still waiting for it to get going... the dialogue is basic and the plot almost non-existent... the production is decent which is about it's only saving grace. I found Station 11 had more going for it.

I bailed during episode 4. Figured if e3 was so lauded, but was almost a stand-alone episode, it could only be downhill from there. And not being a gamer I found the 'escapes' of the first two episodes a bit meh. Face a predicament, need a tool or awesome action to pass obstacle, find/execute same, rinse and repeat. And yeah, the dialogue's bog standard.

Just watched the first episode of Forgotten series 5, and just about to watch the second. No special effects so far, apart from a charred corpse stuck up a chimney, but top notch writing as expected.

[Ymx]

Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji

[Gumboot]

Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji

Haven't watched Brokenwood, but thought Giri/Haji was quite original and entertaining. What keeps you watching TLOU, Ymx? Were you a fan of the game?