I lost whatever respect I had for Sunak when he reappointed her as Home Secretary.
Stop voting for fucking Tories
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It wasn't me! I didn't do it! So then she just lets others at Tory HQ use her account and in her name without any oversight? Whether she actually personally sent it or not, sounds like a clear breach of the code...
Agreed although I think that ship sailed a long time ago! I honestly didnt think we could get any worse that Nazity Patel but Cruella is doing well - its a bit like comparing turds and asking which one smells the worst!tabascoboy wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:55 am It wasn't me! I didn't do it! So then she just lets others at Tory HQ use her account and in her name without any oversight? Whether she actually personally sent it or not, sounds like a clear breach of the code...
Why don't they just knock it on the head or just build the northern sections.
All this money and environmental damage to get from Birmingham to London 7 minutes quicker!!!
All this money and environmental damage to get from Birmingham to London 7 minutes quicker!!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64901985The government is set to announce that construction of certain sections of HS2 will be delayed in an attempt to cut costs, the BBC understands.
It is thought the delay will primarily affect sections from Manchester to Crewe and Birmingham to Crewe.
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Because they're well into the jobs at Euston and the tunnelling has reached Amersham from the M25. These delays are the farcical part - build it and let it recoup costs faster.SaintK wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:57 am Why don't they just knock it on the head or just build the northern sections.
All this money and environmental damage to get from Birmingham to London 7 minutes quicker!!!https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64901985The government is set to announce that construction of certain sections of HS2 will be delayed in an attempt to cut costs, the BBC understands.
It is thought the delay will primarily affect sections from Manchester to Crewe and Birmingham to Crewe.
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Apparently she complained about being personally offended by Gary Lineker's choice of language as her husband is Jewish.Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:06 pm Braverman popped up in the news before I could change the channel, but I did manage a 'fuck off you cunt' while reaching for the remote.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... ics-latest
That's one way to deflect, I suppose, but perhaps easier just not have horrific, heartless policies in the first instance. Then parallels need not be drawn.
They're now going to stop it at Old Oak Common and postpone it through to Euston. So Birmingham to North Acton not Central London so it won't be any quicker!!!Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:08 pmBecause they're well into the jobs at Euston and the tunnelling has reached Amersham from the M25. These delays are the farcical part - build it and let it recoup costs faster.SaintK wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:57 am Why don't they just knock it on the head or just build the northern sections.
All this money and environmental damage to get from Birmingham to London 7 minutes quicker!!!https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64901985The government is set to announce that construction of certain sections of HS2 will be delayed in an attempt to cut costs, the BBC understands.
It is thought the delay will primarily affect sections from Manchester to Crewe and Birmingham to Crewe.
It says that the line between Birmingham and Crewe will be delayed for two years, and that there will be a delay in extending the line to Euston station. Initially the London service will stop at Old Oak Common.
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What a shock; after the next GESaintK wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:05 pmIt says that the line between Birmingham and Crewe will be delayed for two years, and that there will be a delay in extending the line to Euston station. Initially the London service will stop at Old Oak Common.

So in other words it might not be restarted for 6-7 years.
Agreed. The 7 minutes quicker thing always annoys me as it misses the point about freeing up capacity.Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:08 pmBecause they're well into the jobs at Euston and the tunnelling has reached Amersham from the M25. These delays are the farcical part - build it and let it recoup costs faster.SaintK wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:57 am Why don't they just knock it on the head or just build the northern sections.
All this money and environmental damage to get from Birmingham to London 7 minutes quicker!!!https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64901985The government is set to announce that construction of certain sections of HS2 will be delayed in an attempt to cut costs, the BBC understands.
It is thought the delay will primarily affect sections from Manchester to Crewe and Birmingham to Crewe.
Fair point!petej wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:25 pmAgreed. The 7 minutes quicker thing always annoys me as it misses the point about freeing up capacity.Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:08 pmBecause they're well into the jobs at Euston and the tunnelling has reached Amersham from the M25. These delays are the farcical part - build it and let it recoup costs faster.SaintK wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:57 am Why don't they just knock it on the head or just build the northern sections.
All this money and environmental damage to get from Birmingham to London 7 minutes quicker!!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64901985
He always does. He pitches the softballs and they hit the runs. The essence of that interview was;
Preston asks question
Braverman doesn’t answer question
Preston: thank you, right lets move on.
Even the Beeb ditched him. He really is a useless parody.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
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Well they should get at least as much as Rwanda, or maybe they should use whatever bullshit figures the Tories claim they spend on processing & housing refugees.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
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Whatever comes out in advance it looks much more serious political engagement than the demented theatre we got from Cruella earlier this week.
Peston is incredibly overrated - riding being the BBCs economics correspondent in 2008 but very little substance.PCPhil wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:49 amHe always does. He pitches the softballs and they hit the runs. The essence of that interview was;
Preston asks question
Braverman doesn’t answer question
Preston: thank you, right lets move on.
Even the Beeb ditched him. He really is a useless parody.
Saw someone on Twitter saying they needed to call it High Capacity 2.SaintK wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:49 pmFair point!petej wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:25 pmAgreed. The 7 minutes quicker thing always annoys me as it misses the point about freeing up capacity.Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:08 pm
Because they're well into the jobs at Euston and the tunnelling has reached Amersham from the M25. These delays are the farcical part - build it and let it recoup costs faster.
I kind of red pilled on housing and infrastructure these days - I want them to build it right through the house of every fucking NIMBY.
Another £230m on top of the £300m we've already paid since 2014..........whilst the number trying to cross the channel have increased year on year!!!Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
Re-brand the Lib Dems as the Not NIMBY Party and I'll vote for them!tc27 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:59 amSaw someone on Twitter saying they needed to call it High Capacity 2.
I kind of red pilled on housing and infrastructure these days - I want them to build it right through the house of every fucking NIMBY.
Are we paying the French by results? It was blindingly obvious that post-Brexit the French would be taking a relaxed view about Channel crossings.SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:59 pmAnother £230m on top of the £300m we've already paid since 2014..........whilst the number trying to cross the channel have increased year on year!!!Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
Why would they accept those terms?GogLais wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:10 pmAre we paying the French by results? It was blindingly obvious that post-Brexit the French would be taking a relaxed view about Channel crossings.SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:59 pmAnother £230m on top of the £300m we've already paid since 2014..........whilst the number trying to cross the channel have increased year on year!!!Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Do you mean paying by results? Why indeed.Biffer wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:15 pmWhy would they accept those terms?GogLais wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:10 pmAre we paying the French by results? It was blindingly obvious that post-Brexit the French would be taking a relaxed view about Channel crossings.SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:59 pm
Another £230m on top of the £300m we've already paid since 2014..........whilst the number trying to cross the channel have increased year on year!!!
A relaxed view would be letting them on the ferries...GogLais wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:10 pmAre we paying the French by results? It was blindingly obvious that post-Brexit the French would be taking a relaxed view about Channel crossings.SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:59 pmAnother £230m on top of the £300m we've already paid since 2014..........whilst the number trying to cross the channel have increased year on year!!!Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
I think you underestimate the various maffias at work near calais.
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The challenge is that you name a development and the local Lib Dems oppose itSandstorm wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:05 pmRe-brand the Lib Dems as the Not NIMBY Party and I'll vote for them!
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Yeah, it's the very opposite of the 'we hold all the cards' bullshit that the brexit gang pushed.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
I’m sure there are many factors involved. It wasn’t a dig at the French by the way.laurent wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:19 pmA relaxed view would be letting them on the ferries...GogLais wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:10 pmAre we paying the French by results? It was blindingly obvious that post-Brexit the French would be taking a relaxed view about Channel crossings.SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:59 pm
Another £230m on top of the £300m we've already paid since 2014..........whilst the number trying to cross the channel have increased year on year!!!
I think you underestimate the various maffias at work near calais.
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3.5 million refugees in Turkey. if they and the EU wanted to have some fun at the UK's expense in all this it would be laughably easy.laurent wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:19 pm
A relaxed view would be letting them on the ferries...
I think you underestimate the various maffias at work near calais.
luckily we hold all the cards, and I'm sure the Tories weren't wrong about that, and weren't lying either.
Fishing is an EU, not national competency.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
All your fish are belong to usCamroc2 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:16 pmFishing is an EU, not national competency.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?

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You see there's your problem !GogLais wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:32 pm What’s happened re Northern Ireland? Perhaps I’ve missed something while away in the sunny Canaries but as far as I’m aware the DUP are still thinking about it.
The DUP are also going to have to do some fast talking to explain to the very important Tourist Industry in NI, as to just how the fuck the new UK ETA they voted for isn't going to totally fuck the sector !
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-64891156
Listening to a rep from the NI Tourism agency, & they're horrified, & the details are sketchy to say the least, but expecting tourists to pay an unspecified amount, wait three days*, before they travel up to, or even just through NI is fantasy stuff.Meanwhile, representatives of the tourist industry say they are dismayed that the exemption has not been extended to international visitors who arrive into Dublin and then plan to travel to Northern Ireland.
In January, the Tourism Ireland chief executive told BBC News NI that tour operators could cut Northern Ireland from their itineraries to avoid any potential complications with the ETA.
Joanne Stuart, chief executive of NI Tourism Alliance (NITA) said: "Despite extensive discussions between NITA and the Home Office, we are dismayed that the Government has refused to adapt the ETA scheme to reflect Northern Ireland's unique position as the only part of the UK with a land border.
"With over 70% of our visitors arriving via Dublin it is clear that the bureaucracy and potential costs involved in obtaining an ETA will lead to overseas visitors dropping Northern Ireland from their travel plans. This puts 25% of all tourism spend in Northern Ireland at risk."
It's also supposed to be a digital system, & we all know how well Government IT projects go.

* Yeah, right !
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Damn BBC lefty woke bias again
BBC will not broadcast Attenborough episode over fear of rightwing backlashBBC will not broadcast Attenborough episode over fear of rightwing backlash
Exclusive: Decision to make episode about natural destruction available only on iPlayer angers programme-makers
The BBC has decided not to broadcast an episode of David Attenborough’s flagship new series on British wildlife because of fears its themes of the destruction of nature would risk a backlash from Tory politicians and the rightwing press, the Guardian has been told.
The decision has angered the programme-makers and some insiders at the BBC, who fear the corporation has bowed to pressure from lobbying groups with “dinosaurian ways”.
The revelation about Attenborough’s programme comes at the end of a week in which another broadcaster, Gary Lineker, has been condemned by Conservative ministers for his criticism of the government’s immigration bill.
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And they've cancelled Gary Lineker now.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:37 pm Damn BBC lefty woke bias again
BBC will not broadcast Attenborough episode over fear of rightwing backlashBBC will not broadcast Attenborough episode over fear of rightwing backlash
Exclusive: Decision to make episode about natural destruction available only on iPlayer angers programme-makers
The BBC has decided not to broadcast an episode of David Attenborough’s flagship new series on British wildlife because of fears its themes of the destruction of nature would risk a backlash from Tory politicians and the rightwing press, the Guardian has been told.
The decision has angered the programme-makers and some insiders at the BBC, who fear the corporation has bowed to pressure from lobbying groups with “dinosaurian ways”.
The revelation about Attenborough’s programme comes at the end of a week in which another broadcaster, Gary Lineker, has been condemned by Conservative ministers for his criticism of the government’s immigration bill.
Client media.
Only the happy ones!laurent wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:19 pmAll your fish are belong to usCamroc2 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:16 pmFishing is an EU, not national competency.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?![]()
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That's not going to stop France wanting to talk about and gain concessionsCamroc2 wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:16 pmFishing is an EU, not national competency.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am Their meeting will be fairly important. How much money are we going to be paying France, or what concessions of our fishing stocks, and what do we get, and even how much of what we get will be limited to small boats rather than anything progressive?
Listened to him and thought he was going to burst a blood vessel! However like him or loath him he was spot on with his comments and the double standards displayed by the BBC. Brilliant stuff and I got the impression that the R5 presenter enjoyed his roasting of the BBC and wasn't going to interrupt. Ian Wright is a guy I like.Sandstorm wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:42 pm Alistair Campbell is a tool, however he’s just roasted the BBC and especially the Chairman on their 5pm news over Lineker being suspended.
Ian Wright has also pulled out of MOTD tomorrow in solidarity.
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As a wag put it on Twitter, that'll teach the BBC to employ strikers.
What a craven bunch - they've also decided against broadcasting the final episode of the new Attenborough series
on air for fear of engaging the usual right wing cunts. It talks about habitat destruction and climate change. "But you can see it on iplayer".
What a craven bunch - they've also decided against broadcasting the final episode of the new Attenborough series
on air for fear of engaging the usual right wing cunts. It talks about habitat destruction and climate change. "But you can see it on iplayer".
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I saw someone point out that the Beeb had no problems with this tweet ?dpedin wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:55 pmListened to him and thought he was going to burst a blood vessel! However like him or loath him he was spot on with his comments and the double standards displayed by the BBC. Brilliant stuff and I got the impression that the R5 presenter enjoyed his roasting of the BBC and wasn't going to interrupt. Ian Wright is a guy I like.Sandstorm wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:42 pm Alistair Campbell is a tool, however he’s just roasted the BBC and especially the Chairman on their 5pm news over Lineker being suspended.
Ian Wright has also pulled out of MOTD tomorrow in solidarity.
funny that ...